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	<title>Comments on: Are early adopters of the T-Mobile G1 getting the shaft?</title>
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		<title>By: emergency cell phone</title>
		<link>http://androidandme.com/2009/07/news/are-early-adopters-of-the-t-mobile-g1-getting-the-shaft/comment-page-1/#comment-10877</link>
		<dc:creator>emergency cell phone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s exactly what iphone did to customers when the 3G came out.  People just need to learn to wait 2 months after something new comes out, chances are the company will release something better and cheaper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-10877' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('10877', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-10877' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('10877', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-10877-total" >0</span></div><p>That&#8217;s exactly what iphone did to customers when the 3G came out.  People just need to learn to wait 2 months after something new comes out, chances are the company will release something better and cheaper.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All fair points, but...
I got my G1 from eBay UK for £205 and love it.
I&#039;ve moved the caches and applications over to my Class 6 MicroSD card so that&#039;s one limitation dealt with.
Yes, a faster processor would be nice - when wouldn&#039;t it?
Yes, more memory too.
Battery life is vastly improved with 3G and GPS off, it&#039;s seldom they&#039;re actually needed anyway and known battery killers on most devices.
A colleague has the Magic and wishes he had the G1, a real keyboard is a must for me (although I loved the handwriting recognition on my SE P-series phones)
Give me a big screened device with a GHz processor, 512MB RAM, a good camera with proper flash and a keyboard and I&#039;ll grab it.
Bit it will have to be Android, of course ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-4404' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('4404', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-4404' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('4404', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-4404-total" >0</span></div><p>All fair points, but&#8230;<br />
I got my G1 from eBay UK for £205 and love it.<br />
I&#8217;ve moved the caches and applications over to my Class 6 MicroSD card so that&#8217;s one limitation dealt with.<br />
Yes, a faster processor would be nice &#8211; when wouldn&#8217;t it?<br />
Yes, more memory too.<br />
Battery life is vastly improved with 3G and GPS off, it&#8217;s seldom they&#8217;re actually needed anyway and known battery killers on most devices.<br />
A colleague has the Magic and wishes he had the G1, a real keyboard is a must for me (although I loved the handwriting recognition on my SE P-series phones)<br />
Give me a big screened device with a GHz processor, 512MB RAM, a good camera with proper flash and a keyboard and I&#8217;ll grab it.<br />
Bit it will have to be Android, of course ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Android and Me</title>
		<link>http://androidandme.com/2009/07/news/are-early-adopters-of-the-t-mobile-g1-getting-the-shaft/comment-page-1/#comment-4144</link>
		<dc:creator>Android and Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] days are numbered because of its limited internal space.  I recently asked the question &#8220;Are early adopters of the T-Mobile G1 getting the shaft?&#8221; and tried to explain the situation, but most people thought I was complaining about the 2YR [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-4144' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('4144', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-4144' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('4144', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-4144-total" >0</span></div><p>[...] days are numbered because of its limited internal space.  I recently asked the question &#8220;Are early adopters of the T-Mobile G1 getting the shaft?&#8221; and tried to explain the situation, but most people thought I was complaining about the 2YR [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Crome</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Crome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been a loyal customer to t-mobile for many years.  I&#039;ve insisted that my family move over to t-mobile.  I was an early adopter of the phone and have a love/hate relationship with my G1.  It&#039;s quirky and it&#039;s laggy.  They tout the Marketplace, well what good is the market place if you can&#039;t install the apps and still keep the phone usable.  I don&#039;t mind paying a little for an upgrade but a whooping $500 is just too much.  T-mobile should at least offer a trade in program for those that want it.  So far I&#039;ve been very happy with the service I&#039;ve received from t-mobile and am impressed by the potential of the android OS, but this gives me reason to rethink my future purchasing decisions when it comes to my phone.  I refuse to spend an additional $500 on virtually the same phone with no keyboard and a modest hardware update.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-4094' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('4094', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-4094' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('4094', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-4094-total" >0</span></div><p>I&#8217;ve been a loyal customer to t-mobile for many years.  I&#8217;ve insisted that my family move over to t-mobile.  I was an early adopter of the phone and have a love/hate relationship with my G1.  It&#8217;s quirky and it&#8217;s laggy.  They tout the Marketplace, well what good is the market place if you can&#8217;t install the apps and still keep the phone usable.  I don&#8217;t mind paying a little for an upgrade but a whooping $500 is just too much.  T-mobile should at least offer a trade in program for those that want it.  So far I&#8217;ve been very happy with the service I&#8217;ve received from t-mobile and am impressed by the potential of the android OS, but this gives me reason to rethink my future purchasing decisions when it comes to my phone.  I refuse to spend an additional $500 on virtually the same phone with no keyboard and a modest hardware update.</p>
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		<title>By: Tydiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tydiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 19:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s really weird...I was eligible for the $199 price on the myTouch...which I preordered for my G1 back in October of last year. I even resigned in February because I had to move the bills into my name, so when I was checking my eligibility I was only 5 months in on my contract. 

What made me any different than anyone else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-3769' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('3769', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-3769' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('3769', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-3769-total" >0</span></div><p>That&#8217;s really weird&#8230;I was eligible for the $199 price on the myTouch&#8230;which I preordered for my G1 back in October of last year. I even resigned in February because I had to move the bills into my name, so when I was checking my eligibility I was only 5 months in on my contract. </p>
<p>What made me any different than anyone else?</p>
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		<title>By: ucla69er</title>
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		<dc:creator>ucla69er</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 02:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with the G1 as someone mentioned is the extremely limited app space.  If they fixed this, then there really is nothing to whine about.  74mb is not enough.  It&#039;s such a trivial thing that I shouldn&#039;t have to uninstall and reinstall my apps to make room for ones I use.  Fix this problem please.  The Mytouch isn&#039;t even any more powerful than the g1, just a bigger battery and much more space for apps.

and it&#039;s not even really 74 mb for apps. it&#039;s 74 mb for apps and data!  And at &lt;10mb left you get warning usage and &lt;20mb you do notice some slowdowns on the phone.  So oit&#039;s more like 64mb for apps and data which is much too low.  I bought the phone thinking (logically i think) that they would have fixed this by now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-3718' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('3718', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-3718' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('3718', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-3718-total" >0</span></div><p>The problem with the G1 as someone mentioned is the extremely limited app space.  If they fixed this, then there really is nothing to whine about.  74mb is not enough.  It&#8217;s such a trivial thing that I shouldn&#8217;t have to uninstall and reinstall my apps to make room for ones I use.  Fix this problem please.  The Mytouch isn&#8217;t even any more powerful than the g1, just a bigger battery and much more space for apps.</p>
<p>and it&#8217;s not even really 74 mb for apps. it&#8217;s 74 mb for apps and data!  And at &lt;10mb left you get warning usage and &lt;20mb you do notice some slowdowns on the phone.  So oit&#039;s more like 64mb for apps and data which is much too low.  I bought the phone thinking (logically i think) that they would have fixed this by now.</p>
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		<title>By: GSXRDUG</title>
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		<dc:creator>GSXRDUG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 06:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just get two 2600mah batteries and a extra charger, then you never have to charge, I use wifi tether on a daily basis and never have a problem with low batt. The phone is more comfortable too</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-3470' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('3470', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-3470' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('3470', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-3470-total" >0</span></div><p>Just get two 2600mah batteries and a extra charger, then you never have to charge, I use wifi tether on a daily basis and never have a problem with low batt. The phone is more comfortable too</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those complaining about poor battery life, check out WiSyncPlus. Many have reported doubling their battery life.  Others report they can actually go two or three days between charges. Standby time can easily be pushed 100+ hours over that of the iPhone. The application can save far, more power than is possible with simple applications like Power Manager.

There are options available. So rather than complain, check out WiSyncPlus; available in the market.

http://www.gearsoft.mobi/wisyncplus.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-3452' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('3452', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-3452' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('3452', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-3452-total" >0</span></div><p>For those complaining about poor battery life, check out WiSyncPlus. Many have reported doubling their battery life.  Others report they can actually go two or three days between charges. Standby time can easily be pushed 100+ hours over that of the iPhone. The application can save far, more power than is possible with simple applications like Power Manager.</p>
<p>There are options available. So rather than complain, check out WiSyncPlus; available in the market.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gearsoft.mobi/wisyncplus.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.gearsoft.mobi/wisyncplus.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 04:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the most glaring drawback to the G1 is the low onboard memory (and no way of porting your apps to SD, unless you root it) and its definitely going to be slower than its newer counterparts coming out.

You can def. flash other builds onto the G1, xda-dev is having a field day with the G1, but just recently they have started to run into the problem of archaic hardware (the G1) versus newer builds based on different architecture</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-3437' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('3437', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-3437' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('3437', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-3437-total" >0</span></div><p>the most glaring drawback to the G1 is the low onboard memory (and no way of porting your apps to SD, unless you root it) and its definitely going to be slower than its newer counterparts coming out.</p>
<p>You can def. flash other builds onto the G1, xda-dev is having a field day with the G1, but just recently they have started to run into the problem of archaic hardware (the G1) versus newer builds based on different architecture</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got my G1 the other day knowing full well that the Mytouch was just about to be released.  I wanted a real keyboard, the onscreen is OK, but it not nearly as good as the real thing.  Why would the G1 not take future updates?  It&#039;s the same processor as every other Android phone coming out soon, including the new samsung i7500.  Battery sucks on the G1, but that&#039;s OK.. I&#039;ll wait for a Android on the Snapdragon hardware before upgrading again.  Also, the G1 is hackable so you can install other builds with different/better features, we may not be so luck with the MyTouch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-3433' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('3433', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-3433' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('3433', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-3433-total" >0</span></div><p>I just got my G1 the other day knowing full well that the Mytouch was just about to be released.  I wanted a real keyboard, the onscreen is OK, but it not nearly as good as the real thing.  Why would the G1 not take future updates?  It&#8217;s the same processor as every other Android phone coming out soon, including the new samsung i7500.  Battery sucks on the G1, but that&#8217;s OK.. I&#8217;ll wait for a Android on the Snapdragon hardware before upgrading again.  Also, the G1 is hackable so you can install other builds with different/better features, we may not be so luck with the MyTouch.</p>
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