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Guys go and check out BGR, they have the first video of the Moto Droid when turning on :]

Hmm I found something interesting that all of us saw/read in a leaked document with an embargo. It said that the Moto Droid could download apps/widgets from the Android Marketplace, but as well from the Motorola Marketplace that would have optimized apps for the Moto Droid. Maybe that’s why the release date couldn’t be sooner because Motorola is trying to polish their own Marketplace. It’s soundable since the Moto Droid will be the first Android device with Eclair, which won’t have any apps that will work with it since some people are barely getting the 2.0 OTA. This is probably where the exclusive part between Moto and Google kicks in. Moto will have some of the apps for the Droid that will be Eclair compatible. So maybe the Droid will have two marketplaces. Moto will have some Eclair compatible apps while Google fixes the issues with the older firmware. Just my two cents :)

@JM: the Sholes will be announced in a few weeks, that has been a fact since we saw the calendar which states an Oct 30 announcement/launch. If you don’t believe it go to HoFo and look up the pre-release thread where an insider gave a clue/hint for an earlier release than what was rumored before (dec 1). Lol, you’re going to be waiting wayyyy longer than 6 months for that phone, more than a year I presume. You also have to take into account the time it’ll take for the companies to come into an agreement, which adds more time for it to be released. Would you rather pay more to import or buy an unlocked device, or wait until it gets subsidized by a carrier?

Ya i see what your saying, thanks for going easy on me, i certainly dont want to be one of those people your talking about because i have seen the same thing in HoFo all the time.. i just hope the phone is as good as its hyped up to be..

I somewhat agree with what you say here – its what happens when websites publishes too much ‘rumors’ because there is nothing absolutely concrete yet – and readers (like me) reads them. People let themselves get excited on rumors and websites like to feed them rumors sometimes based on their ‘reliable/insider sources’. In the end I just find myself wasting time reading and getting excited on speculations. My excitement has died down on Sholes and realized I’ve been letting myself get spun around by these ‘intelligent speculations’. In the end we don’t have anything concrete. I finished my 2yr contract with TMobile awhile and have been on prepay – waiting for the Sholes (or concrete rumors of Sholes) to come. Looks like I’ll just wait a little longer for the 4″ screen snapdragon devices to come – which might be 6 months after the Sholes get released (or even earlier with the HTC Leo?).

“Until we see something posted on the official Motorola website, consider all release dates FUD.”

This does not make sense. I don’t think FUD means what you think it means.

@Donovan: haha I understand you not being tech savy with these phones yet it’s cool. The biggest mistake that some people do that don’t understand fully what the hardware is in regards to tech specs is to reword them, which then starts a hype and people get upset later on because they read somewhere else that a person stated that the phone had something else (ie saying that the two processors combine to give 1ghz, which in reality are two different things, GPU and CPU). This is one of the main reasons to why some of the blogs and forums out there, like HoFo, get clogged up of people giving wrong “rumors” or info and then blog/forum gets full of people arguing. A topic which starts of with 10 posts ends up with 100 posts because people keep complaining about the wrong info given. But I understand you.
As for the snapdragon phone, people will have to wait a year to even start seeing the leaks, and many more months to see it announced. In the meantime people will start the same process as with the Moto Droid. It’ll start with some specs that are almost true, and then people will start saying that it isn’t true and blah blah blah and what not lol.

Keep in mind that people in the stores are clueless (unless if they’re tech geek like us who read blogs like this one), some don’t even know what os the phone runs on, or are tech savy. All they are told is the some phones have a camera, can send mms, can send emails, has Internet (don’t even know what browser it uses), etc… They just know that they have to sell the phone. I remember I went to a t-mobile store when the G1 came out. The rep was telling a customer about the G1 being the first Android phone, that it had a touch screen and a keyboard, which was pretty much it. The customer asked questions about if the screen was capacitive or resistive, and that’s where the rep got stuck. Thanks to me I gave the customer complete details about the phone and sold it :] even though I didn’t work there. The rep didn’t even know that the phone had the marketplace lol. Good think he thanked me. He later told me that he didn’t know anything about the phone/Android.

ya see.. lol i dont claim to be technical with these phones yet, or at least i didnt mean to, i basically took some phone geeks answer about this and tried to put it in my own words.. sorry for the confusion.. none the less its still not worth it to wait for the snapdragon over this phone..