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	<title>Comments on: Oops! T-Mobile Cliq ships with OpenGL bug</title>
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		<title>By: CLIQ updated but still outdated &#8211; Android and Me</title>
		<link>http://androidandme.com/2009/11/phones/oops-t-mobile-cliq-ships-with-opengl-bug/comment-page-1/#comment-12399</link>
		<dc:creator>CLIQ updated but still outdated &#8211; Android and Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the way back on November 2nd, we reported on a problem with the OpenGL ES implementation on the CLIQ. That story caught the attention of Motorola and and gave us a chance to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-12399' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('12399', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-12399' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('12399', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-12399-total" >0</span></div><p>[...] the way back on November 2nd, we reported on a problem with the OpenGL ES implementation on the CLIQ. That story caught the attention of Motorola and and gave us a chance to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dmitry</title>
		<link>http://androidandme.com/2009/11/phones/oops-t-mobile-cliq-ships-with-opengl-bug/comment-page-1/#comment-10445</link>
		<dc:creator>Dmitry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is exactly the same problem my application has!
Come join us on anddev in solving this issue: http://www.anddev.org/samsung_galaxy_odd_opengl_es_hardware_acceleration-t8511.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-10445' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('10445', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-10445' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('10445', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-10445-total" >0</span></div><p>This is exactly the same problem my application has!<br />
Come join us on anddev in solving this issue: <a href="http://www.anddev.org/samsung_galaxy_odd_opengl_es_hardware_acceleration-t8511.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.anddev.org/samsung_galaxy_odd_opengl_es_hardware_acceleration-t8511.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Justin Shapcott</title>
		<link>http://androidandme.com/2009/11/phones/oops-t-mobile-cliq-ships-with-opengl-bug/comment-page-1/#comment-10000</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Shapcott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only problem there is that the GPU reports support for this particular extension. Note also that the CLIQ uses the EXACT same processor as is present in the G1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-10000' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('10000', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-10000' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('10000', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-10000-total" >0</span></div><p>Only problem there is that the GPU reports support for this particular extension. Note also that the CLIQ uses the EXACT same processor as is present in the G1.</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
		<link>http://androidandme.com/2009/11/phones/oops-t-mobile-cliq-ships-with-opengl-bug/comment-page-1/#comment-9995</link>
		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The OpenGL ES API in Android 1.6 and below is only guaranteed to be at level 1.0.  The VBO extension is not in OpenGL ES 1.0.  It is only available if the GPU on the phone adds it in.  The HTC G1&#039;s GPU includes VBO support.  It is unfortunate for developers to have to deal with anything less than OpenGL ES 1.1, because of the performance enhancing features it brings like VBO.  However, I understand Android 2.0 and above will guarantee OpenGL ES 1.1 support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-9995' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('9995', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-9995' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('9995', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-9995-total" >0</span></div><p>The OpenGL ES API in Android 1.6 and below is only guaranteed to be at level 1.0.  The VBO extension is not in OpenGL ES 1.0.  It is only available if the GPU on the phone adds it in.  The HTC G1&#8242;s GPU includes VBO support.  It is unfortunate for developers to have to deal with anything less than OpenGL ES 1.1, because of the performance enhancing features it brings like VBO.  However, I understand Android 2.0 and above will guarantee OpenGL ES 1.1 support.</p>
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		<title>By: Christoph</title>
		<link>http://androidandme.com/2009/11/phones/oops-t-mobile-cliq-ships-with-opengl-bug/comment-page-1/#comment-9877</link>
		<dc:creator>Christoph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tested a game i develop using OpenGl on the Galaxy of a friend of mine and it&#039;s about 2fps compared to &gt;60fps on the G1 or the Magic. I&#039;ll ask him next time we meet about trying a game from Hexage.</description>
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		<title>By: Taylor Wimberly</title>
		<link>http://androidandme.com/2009/11/phones/oops-t-mobile-cliq-ships-with-opengl-bug/comment-page-1/#comment-9869</link>
		<dc:creator>Taylor Wimberly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What problems are you having on the Galaxy? I&#039;m sure Hexage would like to hear about it.</description>
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		<title>By: WootRoot</title>
		<link>http://androidandme.com/2009/11/phones/oops-t-mobile-cliq-ships-with-opengl-bug/comment-page-1/#comment-9865</link>
		<dc:creator>WootRoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ups should have a cliq at my door within 5 hours so ill try it out, hopefully its only some devices (sorry nex) because i want my buka lol

i wish i could say for sure if buka was on a demo unit, i just dont remember entirely</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-9865' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('9865', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-9865' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('9865', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-9865-total" >0</span></div><p>ups should have a cliq at my door within 5 hours so ill try it out, hopefully its only some devices (sorry nex) because i want my buka lol</p>
<p>i wish i could say for sure if buka was on a demo unit, i just dont remember entirely</p>
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		<title>By: christoph</title>
		<link>http://androidandme.com/2009/11/phones/oops-t-mobile-cliq-ships-with-opengl-bug/comment-page-1/#comment-9864</link>
		<dc:creator>christoph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this the same problem as on the Samsung Galaxy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-9864' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('9864', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-9864' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('9864', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-9864-total" >0</span></div><p>Is this the same problem as on the Samsung Galaxy?</p>
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		<title>By: EricC</title>
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		<dc:creator>EricC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin,

If you can send me those logcat logs that show the API problems, I&#039;ll get them forwarded on to the CLIQ team.

Thanks

-E</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-9862' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('9862', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-9862' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('9862', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-9862-total" >0</span></div><p>Justin,</p>
<p>If you can send me those logcat logs that show the API problems, I&#8217;ll get them forwarded on to the CLIQ team.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>-E</p>
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		<title>By: nEx.Software</title>
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		<dc:creator>nEx.Software</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can confirm this issue on my CLIQ.</description>
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