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	<title>Comments on: Latest AT&amp;T ad says the Droid is a dumbphone</title>
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		<title>By: Manly Man</title>
		<link>http://androidandme.com/2010/01/carriers/latest-att-ad-says-the-droid-is-a-dumbphone/comment-page-1/#comment-18793</link>
		<dc:creator>Manly Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why bash the Andriod when your going to sell the android?

At&amp;t=Fail

This commerical=Epic Failure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-18793' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('18793', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-18793' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('18793', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-18793-total" >0</span></div><p>Why bash the Andriod when your going to sell the android?</p>
<p>At&amp;t=Fail</p>
<p>This commerical=Epic Failure!</p>
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		<title>By: shane</title>
		<link>http://androidandme.com/2010/01/carriers/latest-att-ad-says-the-droid-is-a-dumbphone/comment-page-1/#comment-18597</link>
		<dc:creator>shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 03:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who cares either way i dont want a droid or a iphone. Palm web os is sweet and sprint has the best prices by far and some good phones now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-18597' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('18597', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-18597' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('18597', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-18597-total" >0</span></div><p>who cares either way i dont want a droid or a iphone. Palm web os is sweet and sprint has the best prices by far and some good phones now.</p>
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		<title>By: TechUzer</title>
		<link>http://androidandme.com/2010/01/carriers/latest-att-ad-says-the-droid-is-a-dumbphone/comment-page-1/#comment-18594</link>
		<dc:creator>TechUzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 02:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, that makes sense... thanks for the explanation. But I do have a question about one thing you said: you mentioned being on a call and not being able to get online (simultaneous voice and data), but with the Android phones can you be on a call and still get into your non-web-based apps? Like contacts, notes, and so on? That would be 95% of my use of that, at least. I&#039;m not really interested in booking a thing on a site while I&#039;m still on the call... that&#039;s where I&#039;d be saying: &quot;I&#039;ll call your right back&quot; anyway...

As for your feelings towards AT&amp;T, I totally sympathize, but I&#039;ve had the same feelings towards VZ myself, so I&#039;ve just given it all up to being a slave to the system until something *truly* revolutionary comes along. (We have to use one of the bigger carriers like those two because our family is in the back woods of Massachusetts and we can&#039;t get reception from anyone else.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-18594' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('18594', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-18594' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('18594', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-18594-total" >0</span></div><p>Ah, that makes sense&#8230; thanks for the explanation. But I do have a question about one thing you said: you mentioned being on a call and not being able to get online (simultaneous voice and data), but with the Android phones can you be on a call and still get into your non-web-based apps? Like contacts, notes, and so on? That would be 95% of my use of that, at least. I&#8217;m not really interested in booking a thing on a site while I&#8217;m still on the call&#8230; that&#8217;s where I&#8217;d be saying: &#8220;I&#8217;ll call your right back&#8221; anyway&#8230;</p>
<p>As for your feelings towards AT&amp;T, I totally sympathize, but I&#8217;ve had the same feelings towards VZ myself, so I&#8217;ve just given it all up to being a slave to the system until something *truly* revolutionary comes along. (We have to use one of the bigger carriers like those two because our family is in the back woods of Massachusetts and we can&#8217;t get reception from anyone else.)</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>http://androidandme.com/2010/01/carriers/latest-att-ad-says-the-droid-is-a-dumbphone/comment-page-1/#comment-18561</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 20:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TechUzer: That is a technical limitation of the CDMA technology Verizon uses for their network, not a limitation of the Android OS. All third-generation GSM networks (AT&amp;T and T-Mobile) support simultaneous voice and data, and even though I hateHATEHATE AT&amp;T, I must give them kudos for sticking Verizon with at least that. 

However, once Verizon switches to LTE (which is GSM based) this won&#039;t be a problem. AT&amp;T also fails to mention that 2G GSM networks also can&#039;t do simultaneous voice and data, which does make up most of their own network (there&#039;s a map for that). It&#039;s a tradeoff.

For the record, I&#039;ll stick with the superior GSM network technology and T-Mobile for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-18561' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('18561', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-18561' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('18561', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-18561-total" >0</span></div><p>TechUzer: That is a technical limitation of the CDMA technology Verizon uses for their network, not a limitation of the Android OS. All third-generation GSM networks (AT&amp;T and T-Mobile) support simultaneous voice and data, and even though I hateHATEHATE AT&amp;T, I must give them kudos for sticking Verizon with at least that. </p>
<p>However, once Verizon switches to LTE (which is GSM based) this won&#8217;t be a problem. AT&amp;T also fails to mention that 2G GSM networks also can&#8217;t do simultaneous voice and data, which does make up most of their own network (there&#8217;s a map for that). It&#8217;s a tradeoff.</p>
<p>For the record, I&#8217;ll stick with the superior GSM network technology and T-Mobile for now.</p>
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		<title>By: TechUzer</title>
		<link>http://androidandme.com/2010/01/carriers/latest-att-ad-says-the-droid-is-a-dumbphone/comment-page-1/#comment-18493</link>
		<dc:creator>TechUzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 14:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don’t think they’re saying that the Droid is a dumb phone… They’re saying that the VZ network effectively “dumbs down” your Droid, because getting anything done takes too long. But THAT’S what’s questionable: how much slower could VZ’s 3G be for what are basically mini-web apps? And it would depend on where you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-18493' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('18493', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-18493' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('18493', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-18493-total" >0</span></div><p>I don’t think they’re saying that the Droid is a dumb phone… They’re saying that the VZ network effectively “dumbs down” your Droid, because getting anything done takes too long. But THAT’S what’s questionable: how much slower could VZ’s 3G be for what are basically mini-web apps? And it would depend on where you are.</p>
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		<title>By: TechUzer</title>
		<link>http://androidandme.com/2010/01/carriers/latest-att-ad-says-the-droid-is-a-dumbphone/comment-page-1/#comment-18492</link>
		<dc:creator>TechUzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 14:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think they&#039;re saying that the Droid is a dumb phone... They&#039;re saying that the VZ network effectively &quot;dumbs down&quot; your Droid, because getting anything done takes too long. But THAT&#039;S what&#039;s questionable: how much slower could VZ&#039;s 3G be for what are basically mini-web apps? And it would depend on where you are.

On another point, is it true that you can&#039;t check out other stuff while on a call on the Android phones? If so: that&#039;s a definite fix that needs to be made...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-18492' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('18492', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-18492' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('18492', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-18492-total" >0</span></div><p>I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re saying that the Droid is a dumb phone&#8230; They&#8217;re saying that the VZ network effectively &#8220;dumbs down&#8221; your Droid, because getting anything done takes too long. But THAT&#8217;S what&#8217;s questionable: how much slower could VZ&#8217;s 3G be for what are basically mini-web apps? And it would depend on where you are.</p>
<p>On another point, is it true that you can&#8217;t check out other stuff while on a call on the Android phones? If so: that&#8217;s a definite fix that needs to be made&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: WOW!</title>
		<link>http://androidandme.com/2010/01/carriers/latest-att-ad-says-the-droid-is-a-dumbphone/comment-page-1/#comment-18471</link>
		<dc:creator>WOW!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 01:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stupidest commericial, by far, that i have seen in my life. For the idiot girl who says where are all my apps? i feel bad for you, do you expect to open EVERY phone and for everything to be SPRAWLED on for you like a baby? lmfaoo this commericial was just ridiculous! i wish they wouldve thrown one of their phones at Luke, for being an idiot and doing these commercials!!!!! -_________-
people are just retarded. at least im glad SOMEONE at least OPENED the phone! props to them :) hahah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-18471' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('18471', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-18471' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('18471', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-18471-total" >0</span></div><p>Stupidest commericial, by far, that i have seen in my life. For the idiot girl who says where are all my apps? i feel bad for you, do you expect to open EVERY phone and for everything to be SPRAWLED on for you like a baby? lmfaoo this commericial was just ridiculous! i wish they wouldve thrown one of their phones at Luke, for being an idiot and doing these commercials!!!!! -_________-<br />
people are just retarded. at least im glad SOMEONE at least OPENED the phone! props to them :) hahah</p>
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		<title>By: Hoss789</title>
		<link>http://androidandme.com/2010/01/carriers/latest-att-ad-says-the-droid-is-a-dumbphone/comment-page-1/#comment-18426</link>
		<dc:creator>Hoss789</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never used AT&amp;T so I cannot comment of there service but I have had Verizon for four year and I have dropped exactly one call...and I had to drive through t tunnel for that to happen.  If half of the grumbling I heard about AT&amp;T&#039;s coverage is true then the reliability I have experienced with Verizon&#039;s service is reason alone to keep my contract.

Call me crazy but I actually like making calls on my phone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-18426' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('18426', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-18426' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('18426', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-18426-total" >0</span></div><p>I have never used AT&amp;T so I cannot comment of there service but I have had Verizon for four year and I have dropped exactly one call&#8230;and I had to drive through t tunnel for that to happen.  If half of the grumbling I heard about AT&amp;T&#8217;s coverage is true then the reliability I have experienced with Verizon&#8217;s service is reason alone to keep my contract.</p>
<p>Call me crazy but I actually like making calls on my phone.</p>
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		<title>By: St.Jimmy</title>
		<link>http://androidandme.com/2010/01/carriers/latest-att-ad-says-the-droid-is-a-dumbphone/comment-page-1/#comment-18376</link>
		<dc:creator>St.Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 07:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i-mobile, while your spelling and grammar were terrible (really, just awful*), I am forced to agree with you. Verizon has fair-to-meh pricing, a few good phones, and stellar coverage. AT&amp;T has the iphone, more smart/feature-phones that aren&#039;t locked down (i.e. no OBEX for bluetooth, that sort of thing), wicked-fast internet, but almost no coverage. This is a crappy war, and no-one will be convinced by either sets of ads to switch, except to t-mobile. Also, Verizon&#039;s tech support is awful. Just to put that out there.

*Not to offend, but seriously, spellcheck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-18376' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('18376', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-18376' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('18376', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-18376-total" >0</span></div><p>i-mobile, while your spelling and grammar were terrible (really, just awful*), I am forced to agree with you. Verizon has fair-to-meh pricing, a few good phones, and stellar coverage. AT&amp;T has the iphone, more smart/feature-phones that aren&#8217;t locked down (i.e. no OBEX for bluetooth, that sort of thing), wicked-fast internet, but almost no coverage. This is a crappy war, and no-one will be convinced by either sets of ads to switch, except to t-mobile. Also, Verizon&#8217;s tech support is awful. Just to put that out there.</p>
<p>*Not to offend, but seriously, spellcheck.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://androidandme.com/2010/01/carriers/latest-att-ad-says-the-droid-is-a-dumbphone/comment-page-1/#comment-18346</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 03:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I think I&#039;ll keep my T-Mobile and just wait to upgrade to Nexus One. I can &quot;roam&quot; on AT&amp;T for just about everything but 3G already, anyway (only because AT&amp;T&#039;s 3G uses a different radio frequency than T-Mo&#039;s). And for those with less-than-perfect credit, T-Mobile offers a FlexPay option that will let you use ANY T-Mobile or compatible GSM phone on their network with the same cool plans and features as their post-paid customers. Blackberry Bold with unlimited everything for $80 a month, anyone? Add phone calls via WiFi and access to a smorgasbord of HotSpots for another $10? You just have to pay the full cash price for your handset or buy a nice used one (Craigslist is your friend).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-18346' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('18346', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-18346' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('18346', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-18346-total" >0</span></div><p>Yeah, I think I&#8217;ll keep my T-Mobile and just wait to upgrade to Nexus One. I can &#8220;roam&#8221; on AT&amp;T for just about everything but 3G already, anyway (only because AT&amp;T&#8217;s 3G uses a different radio frequency than T-Mo&#8217;s). And for those with less-than-perfect credit, T-Mobile offers a FlexPay option that will let you use ANY T-Mobile or compatible GSM phone on their network with the same cool plans and features as their post-paid customers. Blackberry Bold with unlimited everything for $80 a month, anyone? Add phone calls via WiFi and access to a smorgasbord of HotSpots for another $10? You just have to pay the full cash price for your handset or buy a nice used one (Craigslist is your friend).</p>
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