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		<title>By: Dot 2: How long can you last with your blue balls? &#124; Android Application [dot] us</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dot 2: How long can you last with your blue balls? &#124; Android Application [dot] us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 22:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] feed for updates on this topic.Powered by WP Greet Box WordPress PluginThe guys at ustwo like to showoff and they are back with another 48 hour app. Dot 2 is the second in a &#8220;cool’ectible&#8221; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dot 2: How long can you last with your blue balls? &#8211; Android and Me</title>
		<link>http://androidandme.com/2010/01/news/how-does-a-developer-showoff-on-the-android-market-place/comment-page-1/#comment-34563</link>
		<dc:creator>Dot 2: How long can you last with your blue balls? &#8211; Android and Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 19:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] guys at ustwo like to showoff and they are back with another 48 hour app. Dot 2 is the second in a &#8220;cool’ectible&#8221; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Taggs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree - the android geeks moaning about the author trying to sell stuff kinda illustrates the point: unless the android marketplace makes it easier to advertise and sell stuff TO CASUAL CONSUMERS, it will die.

As a confessed geek with both iphone and nexus one, who reads a lot of press about both, I see a similar dynamic between apple osx and linux fans.  Sure, Apple locks you in, and android phones offer multi-tasking &amp; better hardware, but 90% of the potential buyers DON&#039;T CARE.  They just want simplicity: a phone, with apps.  No skins, widgets or multi-tasks that make apps slow or crash or hang, just apps on a grid, that are tested by Apple and that I can buy in the same way I buy my music or movies.  SIMPLE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-20494' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('20494', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-20494' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('20494', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-20494-total" >0</span></div><p>I agree &#8211; the android geeks moaning about the author trying to sell stuff kinda illustrates the point: unless the android marketplace makes it easier to advertise and sell stuff TO CASUAL CONSUMERS, it will die.</p>
<p>As a confessed geek with both iphone and nexus one, who reads a lot of press about both, I see a similar dynamic between apple osx and linux fans.  Sure, Apple locks you in, and android phones offer multi-tasking &amp; better hardware, but 90% of the potential buyers DON&#8217;T CARE.  They just want simplicity: a phone, with apps.  No skins, widgets or multi-tasks that make apps slow or crash or hang, just apps on a grid, that are tested by Apple and that I can buy in the same way I buy my music or movies.  SIMPLE.</p>
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		<title>By: Tans</title>
		<link>http://androidandme.com/2010/01/news/how-does-a-developer-showoff-on-the-android-market-place/comment-page-1/#comment-18196</link>
		<dc:creator>Tans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 14:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right - and guess what I changed my tune yet again - thank god - sold my Droid on wkend ;)</description>
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		<title>By: ExtremeT</title>
		<link>http://androidandme.com/2010/01/news/how-does-a-developer-showoff-on-the-android-market-place/comment-page-1/#comment-18078</link>
		<dc:creator>ExtremeT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me or have you suddenly changed your tune?</description>
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		<title>By: bret</title>
		<link>http://androidandme.com/2010/01/news/how-does-a-developer-showoff-on-the-android-market-place/comment-page-1/#comment-17913</link>
		<dc:creator>bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 01:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I was just wondering if anybody has those pictures that are on all the android phones in the image at the top of this article...
hehe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-17913' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('17913', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-17913' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('17913', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-17913-total" >0</span></div><p>Hi, I was just wondering if anybody has those pictures that are on all the android phones in the image at the top of this article&#8230;<br />
hehe</p>
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		<title>By: Tans</title>
		<link>http://androidandme.com/2010/01/news/how-does-a-developer-showoff-on-the-android-market-place/comment-page-1/#comment-17724</link>
		<dc:creator>Tans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 09:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Friedgoldmole

Have been looking but haven&#039;t had any joy yet...need something fun to whip out - an icebreaker - a deal sealer ;)

I read android and me and myself am a newly converted android geek - but there are levels of android geekoidism on here from mild to unhealthy :) - you could say the site offers a full spectrum of geekoidism - which is great!

I have to say reading through all these comments was fun - love debate and love people that know their stuff and show passion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-17724' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('17724', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-17724' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('17724', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-17724-total" >0</span></div><p>Hey Friedgoldmole</p>
<p>Have been looking but haven&#8217;t had any joy yet&#8230;need something fun to whip out &#8211; an icebreaker &#8211; a deal sealer ;)</p>
<p>I read android and me and myself am a newly converted android geek &#8211; but there are levels of android geekoidism on here from mild to unhealthy :) &#8211; you could say the site offers a full spectrum of geekoidism &#8211; which is great!</p>
<p>I have to say reading through all these comments was fun &#8211; love debate and love people that know their stuff and show passion!</p>
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		<title>By: friedgoldmole</title>
		<link>http://androidandme.com/2010/01/news/how-does-a-developer-showoff-on-the-android-market-place/comment-page-1/#comment-17692</link>
		<dc:creator>friedgoldmole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your right of course it&#039;s good publicity, and stirring it up a little with some debate has only helped to make it a hot topic.

Regarding your comment on Android geeks, you&#039;ll find that on websites like androidandme, you&#039;ll get geek users of the android platform like me, wanting to talk about Android, I know crazy, not sure what you were expecting ;-)

Find any good android apps to impress the ladies yet? (I&#039;m genuinely interested, what iPhone apps would you use for this purpose?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-17692' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('17692', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-17692' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('17692', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-17692-total" >0</span></div><p>Your right of course it&#8217;s good publicity, and stirring it up a little with some debate has only helped to make it a hot topic.</p>
<p>Regarding your comment on Android geeks, you&#8217;ll find that on websites like androidandme, you&#8217;ll get geek users of the android platform like me, wanting to talk about Android, I know crazy, not sure what you were expecting ;-)</p>
<p>Find any good android apps to impress the ladies yet? (I&#8217;m genuinely interested, what iPhone apps would you use for this purpose?)</p>
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		<title>By: millsustwo</title>
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		<dc:creator>millsustwo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt W,  I appologise. Was not my intention to insult, and reading back I don&#039;t believe I do (apart from one time when i let my emotions run high). I simply state my case like the others state theirs. Selling, or making waves in the Android market place is a tough one. And as a creaotor of content, I personally can&#039;t see a way of making money as it stands, and until Google change the way apps are sold, eyeballed and distributed on this platform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-17623' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('17623', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-17623' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('17623', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-17623-total" >0</span></div><p>Matt W,  I appologise. Was not my intention to insult, and reading back I don&#8217;t believe I do (apart from one time when i let my emotions run high). I simply state my case like the others state theirs. Selling, or making waves in the Android market place is a tough one. And as a creaotor of content, I personally can&#8217;t see a way of making money as it stands, and until Google change the way apps are sold, eyeballed and distributed on this platform.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Leahy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Leahy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 00:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;I think this is the main point, but if (like I do) you work for them at the end of the day they get to choose how much pixel perfect they want it. After all they are paying my bills :)

For sure as long as they pay the bills one can tweak away, but doing so with dynamic and not 100% static pre-rendererd assets is the most scalable way to accomplish that goal. Plus it gives the freedom for an app to run on new hardware with reasonable if not perfectly adequate results whereas prerendered assets will never scale.

Those running or managing design firms often have no concept of scalability, engineering complexity, or realize that fixing problems upstream prevent more costly future maintenance (a general problem with all organizations). It&#039;s an uphill battle that should be fought, but the folks involved just don&#039;t care or have the capability to even think about &quot;total quality&quot; (quality over the entire lifetime of a product).

I&#039;m making a strong attempt shortly to transform from 3rd party engineering to offering 1st party middleware for Android and beyond. 3rd party work can get frustrating after years of doing it.

The thing that cracks me up which you alluded to as well is that in the end it&#039;s just &quot;pop apps&quot;; nothing necessarily innovative and just cheap tricks for the most part. Does this class of app make $$$ currently, yes, but not forever at least in the current state of things. Design firms are a dime a dozen. In 5 years time we may look back and laugh (who needs to wait 5 years!) at the pop apps that 1st appeared when the masses started carrying legitimate mini-computers / smartphones oh wait, right, &quot;superphones&quot;. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="CommentRating"><a class="rate-up" id='up-17562' alt='Thumb up' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('17562', 'add', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_');" title="Vote Up" >Thumb up</a><a class="rate-down" id='down-17562' alt='Thumb down' onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('17562', 'subtract', 'androidandme.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating-pro/', '5_16_')" title="Vote Down" >Thumb down</a> <span id="karma-17562-total" >0</span></div><p>&gt;I think this is the main point, but if (like I do) you work for them at the end of the day they get to choose how much pixel perfect they want it. After all they are paying my bills :)</p>
<p>For sure as long as they pay the bills one can tweak away, but doing so with dynamic and not 100% static pre-rendererd assets is the most scalable way to accomplish that goal. Plus it gives the freedom for an app to run on new hardware with reasonable if not perfectly adequate results whereas prerendered assets will never scale.</p>
<p>Those running or managing design firms often have no concept of scalability, engineering complexity, or realize that fixing problems upstream prevent more costly future maintenance (a general problem with all organizations). It&#8217;s an uphill battle that should be fought, but the folks involved just don&#8217;t care or have the capability to even think about &#8220;total quality&#8221; (quality over the entire lifetime of a product).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m making a strong attempt shortly to transform from 3rd party engineering to offering 1st party middleware for Android and beyond. 3rd party work can get frustrating after years of doing it.</p>
<p>The thing that cracks me up which you alluded to as well is that in the end it&#8217;s just &#8220;pop apps&#8221;; nothing necessarily innovative and just cheap tricks for the most part. Does this class of app make $$$ currently, yes, but not forever at least in the current state of things. Design firms are a dime a dozen. In 5 years time we may look back and laugh (who needs to wait 5 years!) at the pop apps that 1st appeared when the masses started carrying legitimate mini-computers / smartphones oh wait, right, &#8220;superphones&#8221;. ;)</p>
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