Sep 22 AT 2:48 AM Taylor Wimberly 100 Comments

Motorola and Verizon score Gingerbread exclusive?

Update: We still believe the Motorola Tegra 2 phone will be the first dual-core phone with Gingerbread, but we have now learned it will be coming to multiple carriers. I no longer believe the Motorola Olympus (Terminator) will be the first phone with Gingerbread, but it could still be the first dual-core phone to receive it.

Just like last year, Motorola and Verizon will launch a Droid phone for the holiday shopping season that will be the first device to feature a new version of Android.

Motorola is ultra secretive when it comes to big product launches so I might have a few details that are slightly off, but they have left clues all over the place and I’m just fitting the pieces together using my Android-powered brain and intel I’ve gathered from my growing team of ninjas.

This superphone, which I’m calling the Droid T2, will be the first to ship with Gingerbread (most likely Android 2.5), the first to feature NVIDIA’s dual-core Tegra 2 platform, and the first to offer 1080p video encode/decode. Users should also expect all the high end features found in the Droid X with the addition of a front-facing camera.

Some of you may remember that Motorola Co-CEO Sanjay Jha boasted about delivering a 2 GHz phone in time for Christmas, but we recently discovered that was a slip of the tongue and he was actually referring to the two cores (clocked at 1 GHz each) found inside the Tegra 2 platform.

We also know that Motorola and NVIDIA are feverishly working on the next Android kernel. At first I thought this was for a tablet project, but we now know that the real Android tablets (those with Honeycomb) will not appear till 2011.

Google traditionally targets a specific product launch for new releases of Android because it is easier to develop for a single device (then they release the source code so other hardware partners can port it to their devices). Verizon is the largest U.S. carrier and Motorola knows how to execute a big launch, so Google has chosen them to deliver Gingerbread to the masses.

Little is known about Gingerbread at this point, but we expect it will feature a refined user interface and some of the features we saw demonstrated at Google I/O such as Google Music and the online Android Market. Other possible additions could be the rumored services like Google Games and Google Me.

Overall, I think Gingerbread will be a minor update (although still exciting) and this is why it will be branded Android 2.5, while Android 3.0 is being reserved for the full tablet experience coming next year.

Other than Motorola, we only know that LG is planning a Tegra 2 smartphone, but I don’t think they will deliver it this year. HTC was also rumored to be going dual-core with the myTouch HD, but it’s looking more and more like that was a typo and it will feature the same 2nd-gen Snapdragon found in the Desire HD.

If you want the best dual-core smartphone with the latest version of Android, then keep an eye on Motorola. They have a press event scheduled for October 5th at CTIA, but that is likely too soon to announce their Tegra 2 phone. It is more likely we will hear solid info around mid-November.

Does it sound a little far fetched or do you believe Sanjay Jha and Motorola will deliver the premier Android experience this Christmas?

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  • http://Website Aceman

    Starting to get pissed here….yet happy.

    • http://Website maron

      Well, I would be waiting for this to land on Android honeycomb (Android 3.2 / 3.5)Thinking this would be release on the holidays or next year.

    • http://Website nosensse

      I´m not getting pissed anymore after getting my NEXUS ONE. This and no other crappy phone will be the first to UPDATE to Gingerbread many months before anyone…

      The word SHIP is what makes the diference…the exclusivity would be about shipping not updating an existing phone…as you know WE have Froyo since late MAY…

      The next one to SHIP Froyo was the Desire… 3 months later.

      Anyway when a site publishes something there it should be a thing called LINK, SOURCE, EXTERNAL INFO, etc that validates this or any other kind of highly improbable news…like this one.

      Cheers

  • http://Website Chris

    What happened to the Nexus One receiving updates first? :-(

    • http://Website Austin

      Lol that’s a really good question.

      • http://Website zed

        Was that ever set in stone or just an assumption? Regardless if you don’t get it first I would put money on 2nd.

        • http://Website Austin

          Well isn’t there a big deal between Android and Apple in the marketing that Apple avoids bloatware by not having it be sold in AT&T stores where Android gets bogged down with Verizon and Sprint and Tmobile add ons?

          The Nexus one was assume to receive all the updates first cause Google put out the phone and not a carrier.

    • http://androidandme.com Taylor Wimberly

      I think all the phones that get Flash 10.1 will also receive Gingerbread. I’m sure Google has it running on the Nexus right now, but I still think Moto gets the first public release.

      • http://Website Florian Rohrweck

        No, the next google phone won’t be by Motorola. No, Google does not love Motorola.
        If you think about Motorola and you are a US citizen, you think of the droid. The droid does not have a locked bootloader, but the Milestone and ANY other new high end Motorola mobile phone has a locked bootloader. Motorola pushes fragmentation (look at their update schedule) and pushes out new phones abandoning all other phones. And NO the bootloader has not been hacked, broken or whatsoever. Everyone who says that lies. 2nd boot isn’t working yet (Rom boots but no GSM, 3g services are working)

        So why should google, knowing this, be so stupid to think of a new Google Phone by Motorola?

        It just will be the first mainstream market phone shipped with gingerbread. What does that mean? nothing at all.
        And Motorola is general a Fail, so I don’t believe anything that leaks until I can order this phone. But I won’t, because Motorola seriously sucks.
        While my HTC Magic is already running smoothly on Froyo, my Milestone (GSM-Droid) is still stuck with 2.1 thanks to the locked bootloader.
        And stop posting links to Motofrenzy or anything. These roms are nice, but still running on a signed 2.1 Kernel, that’s no solution for future versions of android. No custom kernels built from AOSP source.
        Motorola is just a greedy bitch and every news about Moto makes me wanna throw up. They just love to screw their customers.
        I bought a Flash Ready phone and still it doesn’t run flash since 6 months.
        Stay away from that crap
        The milestone xt720 was advertised with 720 MHZ processor speed and it shipped with 550 MHZ
        They just recently released a update that “should” increase the cpu clock. Heard reports that the processor is still running on 550 after the update.

        • http://Website Florian Rohrweck

          oops, that shouldn’t be a reply ^^ sorry

        • http://Website RoccoRC

          Florian Rohrweck!!!

          Relax man wow reading your post I can feel your rage and sickness.
          I agree with you in some parts (I’m a Droid user Original) I have to say I was really disappointed with Verizon, but the hardware is only as good as the software. I feel my phone has plenty of power I mean come on I won’t upgrade even if I get a free upgrade. I understand the part when companies play around with there consumers, not good at all, but limit on things hmmm I can’t point out fingers. Verizon does play a role as well as Motorola, with Respect I think its a business choice someones pulling some strings. Google phone nothing RELAX “Google traditionally targets a specific product launch for new releases of Android because it is easier to develop for a single device (then they release the source code so other hardware partners can port it to their devices). Verizon is the largest U.S. carrier and Motorola knows how to execute a big launch, so Google has chosen them to deliver Gingerbread to the masses. ” Google just only releases source codes “still using the Nexus One ( A sweet phone my I add!) to test it! SO Motorola will not be the next Google phone. (Don’t make me laugh!!!) I don’t see Motorola I only see a hardware phone.

          • http://Website David Thomas

            No, no, he’s justified in his rage. My Motorola Cliq was scheduled to have a Q2 update to 2.1. Many months later, and I’m still staring at a table that says Q3/Q4 2010, with my phone touting 1.5 still, but I’ve given up hope on there even being an update at all.

            Motorola has shown time-and-time again that they don’t give a rat’s ass about the customers the moment a phone is released. As Carlton from Fresh Prince of Bel-Air would say, “They gave me the wink and the gun.” Yeah, they make some promises, and try to sound all sympathetic when they have to push it back, but they’re starting to lose a reputation that I’d like to think they worked so hard to build. You can’t jump in a new game using old rules. How come they can release two new 2.1 phones with Blur running, yet not update the Cliq/XT?

            I realize that they’re in business to ultimately make money, so whatever they feel justifies that goal is their business. But shafting users like Samsung does is not a good way to make repeat customers and gain love from the Android community. HTC is definitely the way to go if you even have remote knowledge of Android.

        • http://Website D dubb3000

          you are right moto sucks for having bootloaders! why are people forgeting so quickly? i will stick with htc for now!

    • http://Website Nortisan

      First thing that came to my mind!

    • http://Website Justin

      The nexus one will always get updates first its google’s phone. I thought they were first in recieving 2.2??

      • http://Website Scott

        correction: it USED to be Google’s handset. Now the N1 is just another discontinued phone.

        • http://Website thebearingedge

          really? This comment is busted?

          C’mon people, these companies sell us these phones to make money, not friends….

        • alamoe

          well what do you think they’re using to develop and test gingerbread on right now? do they have another dev phone yet? last time i checked they didn’t.

          • http://Website llama

            Googlers to this day still use the N1 internally so I do not see support for the N1 fading anytime soon. When it comes to development the Android team develops there software across a large selection of current and future android hardware devices, so you can be sure they are tailoring their new OS for things like multithreading etc.

    • http://Website androidpriest

      Yes, may still be the first to get the “upgrade” but not the first phone to have the latest android.

    • http://Website Andrew

      It said first to ship with gingerbread, not the first to get gingerbread

      • http://Website Mike

        Yes the Droid 2 was first to ship with froyo. That’s fine. Nexus One ftw.

    • http://Website Naterade

      It will get the gingerbread update first, this will just be the first phone SHIPPED with ginger. Nexus has already shipped a long time ago :X lol obviously. But seriously though Nexus will mosty likely get the Google ginger update before this thing can ship. I mean come on it IS the ADP3!

    • http://Website Ali

      Maybe it means that it will
      be the first device to ‘launch’ with GB pre-installed, nexus one to be updated first? I dont know.. Just guessing !

      • http://Website k

        You’re probably right. The Nexus One got FroYo in what–March? April? and the Droid 2 was the first device to ship with FroYo, in September.

  • http://Website wallingsworth

    androidandme falling into bs postings for hits now, ohnoez.

  • http://Website res

    I want to punch my Nexus One in the face right now.

  • http://Website Bigmerf

    Won’t the nexus be the first with ginger

  • http://t3kd.com Matthew Weber

    I was under the impression that “Gingerbread” Was Android 3.0 not 2.5.

    Evidence here:

    http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/06/30/android-3-0-aka-gingerbread-gets-detailed/
    and here

    http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/20/android-gingerbread-is-planned-for-q4-2010/

    and here

    http://gizmodo.com/5578055/android-gingerbread-rumors-dismissed-by-google-on-twitter

    Maybe I missed something, but I don’t think so. Although there has been some confusion regarding the version number, I do not see anywhere, even on this site, where 2.5 has been mentioned.

    Could you provide a source please?

    • http://vitriolix.com vitriolix

      No one knows what Gingerbread will be. The make that decision after the development cycle is over, not ahead of time. Could be 2.5, could be 3.0… could even be 2.3

    • AndMac

      I also have always seen Gingerbread as 3.0, and Google is totally revamping the UI, so it’s a major upgrade from a user standpoint, not a minor one as the article states.

      Google even claimed that Gingerbread will make obsolete the crappy UI “enhancements” that manufacturers slap on Android.

      So, yes, it’s major.

  • http://abrah.am Abraham Williams

    Hasn’t the consensus in the rumor mill thus far been that Gingerbread would be 3.0?

    • http://Website Todd

      I don’t think anyone bothered to consult Google on that. Heck, for all we know, Gingerbread is 2.3 and Honeycomb will be 2.4.

      • http://limitlessdroid.com Shane

        True. But there have been signs of testing for Android OS’s with version 3.0 and even higher than that, so we’re guessing that’s Gingerbread

  • http://Website JAG

    excelent! I hope to see a fisical keyboard

    • http://Website nate

      Physical, you hope to see a physical keyboard.

      • http://Website B

        Maybe he knows something we don’t

    • http://Website Robert Paulson

      What if he meant fiscal keyboard? Like, maybe it’s a keyboard that has nothing but symbols for international currency and it’s purely for leet speak. HAHA

    • http://Website hantu

      stupid indonesian!

      • http://Website emic

        Ignorant racist ass.

  • http://Website Sam

    It’s faster and scrolling is smoother

    CM6 DS G1

  • http://Website Todd

    No official Android for tablets until Honeycomb? Does anyone need more proof that Eric Schmidt is still taking orders from Steve Jobs? As far as I’m concerned, Eclair would have made just as good a tablet as iOS 3.whatever.

    • http://Website B

      Yea I need more proof. I dont know what you mean by official android. I had the understanding that honeycomb is just optimized for tablets. Its obviously not a necessity. For all intents and purposes, you could say samsung jumped the gun with the Tab.

    • http://Website Gee

      I’m Android user and fan, but Froyo is not even close as good as iOS 3, let alone iOS 4. I’m talking tablets here BTW. Froyo makes no effort at not being a call-less up-sized smartphone.

  • http://Website 2C

    Some how I find it hard to believe that the current developers phone, the Nexus One won’t be one of the 1st phones with Gingerbread. If the article is accurate then maybe this Motorola phone will be the 1st phone that is sold in stores with Gingerbread preinstalled. And phones like the Nexus One & I’d have to imagine the G2 would receive the update ota before the end of the year.

    • http://Website Steve

      Remember the Droid launch though, it had 2.0 (not that different from 1.6), then the Nexus launched with all of the goodies (2.1 and true Eclair), then the Droid was later brought up to speed.

      • Snafu77

        But the Droid wasn’t the official Google phone or Google Android Dev phone. It’s not that big of a deal but it won’t help me to stick with the N1 past January.

    • http://Website Gee

      Something that I’m worried about as a EVO user (which uses the same CPU/GPU) is that the graphic overhaul might be a little too much for the chip to handle. I’m almost certain that Gingerbread will finally bring GPU acceleration to Android’s UI.. problem is, the GPU in the first gen Snapdragon is WEAK! It’s even weaker than the original Droid and iPhone 3GS.

      Now I’m certain that the Nexus One will get Gingerbread but what if it runs somewhat poorly, releasing it on the Nexus One first might leave a really bad impression on Android. Might explain why it’s possible that this Tegra phone might get it first.

      • http://Website Daniel

        You don’t need that much GPU power for typical operations. The first two iPhones were pretty bad in the GPU department, yet good use of hardware acceleration made it smoother than even the current crop of Android phones in some areas. The Snapdragon should be more than enough.

        This is just like with desktop computers: you don’t need a ultra-modern graphics card to get better rendering on compositing window managers, it just needs not to suck. Maybe you’ll miss out on *excessively* fancy animations, but apart from that pretty much everything runs better. And those animations are more often than not in bad taste, fun the first few times you see them but really tiresome for prolonged use on a productivity device, so they shouldn’t even appear outside of games in the first place.

        • http://Website Gee

          Yeah, but you’re ignoring one major thing, the Nexus One/EVO run at 800×480, the 3G/3GS ran at 320×480.

          • http://Website Daniel

            I did take that into account. The resolution change still isn’t nearly as big as the GPU difference between those models.

            For another comparison on the difference: the iPhone 4 has a less powerful GPU than the Galaxy S AND a bigger resolution (60% higher pixel count), yet it creams the SGS. For shame!

          • http://Website Gee

            Yeah, that’s because iOS is GPU accelerated. Besides, the GPU in the iPhone 4 is over twice as fast as the Adreno 200 in the first generation Snapdragon.

  • http://Website B

    The first to run gingerbread? Even before Nexus One??

  • http://Website Luke T

    If only my contract was up with the original droid and hopefully it’s vanilla android.

  • http://www.twitter.com/jlachovsky Unl1m1t3d

    If it has Moto Blur or anything but stock Android, I want nothing to do with it.

  • http://Website paul

    Egregious header. What is this based on? Why is this wild speculation written as if it’s fact? I guess this is where I unsubscribe from your RSS feed.

  • http://Website Miguel

    I still think the Nexus One will get it first, but the Moto will be the first phone to be shipped with Gingerbread.

    I still am not sold on buying another Moto device though, after the debacle they have created with the liq update. My girlfriend has the Cliq and it does NOTHING due to being on 1.5. Last night I tried to purchase an app using Carrier billing on T-Mobile. No-Go. Only phones with 1.5 or higher support carrier billing. WTF!!!!!!

    It’s as if Motorola has ONE guy working on 2,1 for the Cliq.

    • http://Website Drew

      Yep.. sad day for me too. I refuse to buy anything from either of these manufacturers after being sold the Behold II and then later seeing my friends get the Cliq XT( at my recommendation, since it was due to be upgraded) only to be disappointed. HTC seems to be my only option besides maybe LG if they decided to release something decent on TMo.. but so far all we sad T mobile people get are the dregs, and step children of the phone world.. sad day indeed.

  • MitchRapp81

    BS only reason I got the Nexus One was that it would be the first to get updates and it would not have all the phone-provider crap on it…

    Don’t fail me now, google!

  • http://flavors.me/davidmnoriega David

    Whats with all this dual core hype? I mean I’ve yet to see even today’s computers really take advantage of multi-core processors in a fashion that really shows of their power. No the only things out there that really support multi-core processors are specialized scientific programs. Its all hype like the cpu clock speed and megapixel races.

    • http://Website Daniel

      One possible advantage of a multi-core processor is that background services could (theoretically) have a far less noticeable impact on the foreground app, which is a pretty bad problem on Android for real-time applications like games.

    • http://Website Eric

      What? No, there are tons of apps that use more than one core. Heck, even the OS itself uses more than one. Everything from games, movies, flash, all is either multicore nativly, or the OS sticks them on different cores to spread the load.

  • http://Website Thomas

    Dangit! Im still waiting on 2.2 (Galaxy S)!!! Its so frustrating that carriers and phone devs promise these goodies and take so frigging long to carry through. I just want 2.2 and heck by that time nexus will have 2.5 or whatever lol they need to slow down with updates. Only 28% of devices ate running 2.2 according to a stat on phonedog.com. Sheesh let us catch up already.

  • http://Website Zach

    Are you sure this is a phone and a not a tablet? Everyone first heard about that 2Ghz phone and even though it was debunked back in June people were still reporting that it was coming. I thought they were releasing a tablet and as far as another phone it got pushed back til early next year unless that changed.

  • http://Website good2know

    I am excited, I bet this the Droid Pro I read about on engadget 4″ screen. Sounds like a great xmas gift

  • http://Website KC

    This exclusive update crap is slowing down the platform as a whole. Lets get all phones that meet hardware requirements 2.2 then gingerbread by the end of the year!

  • http://Website Cesar

    Why would google not update their own phone to gingerbread before any other phone. Gingerbread is being tested and build on a nexus. It makes no sense this cannot be accurate….

  • Gone

    The Nexus One will definitely get gingerbread first!!! It just won’t be the phone to premiere gingerbread to the masses!!!

  • Deter

    Technically speaking the Nexus One is still an HTC phone, that was only available for service on T Mobile. How do we know that this isn’t Google’s next phone that is made by Motorola and available for service on Verizon. I’m just asking cause everyone seems to be in an uproar over the fact that google isn’t updating its own phones first.

  • http://Website Khush

    Why are ppl still complaining about the clq go root it if its such a bother Motorola isn’t the only onepromising updates and not dilivering …HTC. I have the hero and still no update lets just face it phones like the cliq. And hero are to limited hardware wise u can’t expect to be on the same level as the new high end phones and its higly unliky Motorola will leave a phone like thisand not update it.

  • http://Website Jared

    Aren’t you guys over reacting a bit? It is a rumour, that is based on information from Motorola.

    What this all likely means is that it will be the first phone to LAUNCH with Gingerbread. Motorola doesn’t know how fast Gingerbread will be on the Nexus One and they have no control over that.

  • http://Website Al

    Straight from the horse’s mouth:

    “When will other Google products support WebM and VP8?

    WebM support in Android is expected in the Gingerbread release (currently planned for Q4, 2010). We expect many other Google products to adopt WebM and VP8 as they prioritize it with their other product requirements. Keep an eye on the WebM blog for announcements.”

    http://www.webmproject.org/about/faq/

  • http://Website Y314K

    Damn it… Once again… Moto & Verizon are going to own Android… Thanks a lot TMobile & HTC… Great job owning Android…

    Why do I keep hearing GingerBread Tablets… Wasn’t that the whole point of Chrome OS… For tablet & netbook devices… Seems Google has gone mute on Chrome OS… Maybe Android 3.0 is a merged of Chrome OS & Android… WTH…

  • mkrmec

    Nexus will still be the first to get it… they are developing the new Android version on it.. it already exists doohh… it’s stupid to think that a phone not even made yet will get Ginger first.. dooh

  • Drakon911

    So the carrier and the handset maker with the most restrictions get it first? All I can say is WTF Google? Here I was thinking Android was supposed to be “Open”. Silly me. Verizon and Motorola are doing their best to be more “Apple-like” than anyone.

  • http://Website Tito!

    Anything that states Verizon, & Motorola. Makes me word vomit: “FAIL!”
    I hate Verizon. :b
    I hope it dies.
    Motorola I love (:

    FAIL VERIZON FAIL.
    Jocking T-Mobile’s Android Love.
    T-Mobile needs to kick some Red Check Mark butt. Seriously.

  • http://Website nate

    sounds good to me… i have verizon and my contract has been up since august. I’m glad going to wait hope this phone is amazing and has a slide out keyboard

  • alamoe

    Don’t believe everything you read. Wouldn’t Google be working on Gingerbread now? (answer: Yes) What phone would they be using to test it? (answer: Nexus One)

  • http://Website Nammy

    Lots of Motorola/Verizon hate, people need to realize Verizon and Motorola are the ones that put a large amount of their resources behind the Droid, they spent many millions in advertising and the Droid’s success put Android on the map.

    Google realizes this and I would not be the least bit surprised if Google shows a fondness for both Motorola and Verizon in the future.

    • http://Website JAG

      I said it

  • http://Website sarreq

    I’m hoping for 2 things;
    1. that this will be an Android Experience phone, like the original Droid, and
    2. that this has a higher res display than the IPhone4. 1280x768x4.3″ would be amazingly nice…

  • http://Website rich

    #motofail

  • http://Website Beto

    Nexus One Owners

    I still think we’ll get that update about the same time as the Moto/Verizon version. Im eagerly awaiting. :)

  • http://Website Laura silva

    I can’t wrap my head around why everyone is hating on Verizon. Yeah sure, they’re nazi when it comes to restrictions, which every carrier has, but their coverage is the biggest and best. What’s the point of having a tricked out phone if you’re not able to use it, just saying.

  • http://Website JJL84

    Well, if they treat it like they did the original Droid, I’m in. However, I’m getting tired of Motorola after the whole issue with Froyo on my DX. I love the hardware of my DX, but I miss the “do whatever I want” with my Droid. So hopefully Google has more control over this new device, because I really love Moto’s hardware.

    • http://Website JAG

      We love Moto’s Hardware!!!

      Best of west

  • http://Website Chris Meyers

    *Rolls his eyes* the comments on this board are about the most amusing thing I’ve ever read. For a group of developers and purported techies, you are the most insular, head-in-the-sand bunch I have ever seen. Let me give you some simple words (which you should already know) about Android progress and development, YOU CAN’T STOP RAPID PROGRESS. Your Nexus Ones are dead technology. We are now in the next phase. Multi core ARM CPUs, Cortex 9, and the next generation of GPUs, which are what? 4 times faster? Nobody is going to release a new OS with the primary focus on last generation technology. Seriously, I can only conclude you are all morons. This is akin to a bunch of people whining that WIndows 7 doesn’t run so hot on their Pentium 4′s after having entered the I3/I5/I7 era. You might as well get used to this pattern. Nothing you get in January is going to have the flagship status and technology enough to be the launch device of an OS that comes out the next year. I mean the G1 came out not even 2 years ago. I don’t recall anybody whining 1 year ago that the G1 wasn’t still the flagship device for Android 2.0. Seriously, catch up, get with the times, and if you’re a developer or Android enthusiastic, for heavens sakes get modern hardware every year. It’s a phone or tablet, they’re cheap.

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    I wouldn’t be surprised to see a leaked Gingrbread ROM for the nexus real soon….

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  1. AcemanGuest 5 years ago

    Starting to get pissed here….yet happy.

    • maronGuest 5 years ago

      Well, I would be waiting for this to land on Android honeycomb (Android 3.2 / 3.5)Thinking this would be release on the holidays or next year.

    • nosensseGuest 5 years ago

      I´m not getting pissed anymore after getting my NEXUS ONE. This and no other crappy phone will be the first to UPDATE to Gingerbread many months before anyone…

      The word SHIP is what makes the diference…the exclusivity would be about shipping not updating an existing phone…as you know WE have Froyo since late MAY…

      The next one to SHIP Froyo was the Desire… 3 months later.

      Anyway when a site publishes something there it should be a thing called LINK, SOURCE, EXTERNAL INFO, etc that validates this or any other kind of highly improbable news…like this one.

      Cheers

  2. ChrisGuest 5 years ago

    What happened to the Nexus One receiving updates first? :-(

    • AustinGuest 5 years ago

      Lol that’s a really good question.

      • zedGuest 5 years ago

        Was that ever set in stone or just an assumption? Regardless if you don’t get it first I would put money on 2nd.

        • AustinGuest 5 years ago

          Well isn’t there a big deal between Android and Apple in the marketing that Apple avoids bloatware by not having it be sold in AT&T stores where Android gets bogged down with Verizon and Sprint and Tmobile add ons?

          The Nexus one was assume to receive all the updates first cause Google put out the phone and not a carrier.

    • I think all the phones that get Flash 10.1 will also receive Gingerbread. I’m sure Google has it running on the Nexus right now, but I still think Moto gets the first public release.

      • Florian RohrweckGuest 5 years ago

        No, the next google phone won’t be by Motorola. No, Google does not love Motorola.
        If you think about Motorola and you are a US citizen, you think of the droid. The droid does not have a locked bootloader, but the Milestone and ANY other new high end Motorola mobile phone has a locked bootloader. Motorola pushes fragmentation (look at their update schedule) and pushes out new phones abandoning all other phones. And NO the bootloader has not been hacked, broken or whatsoever. Everyone who says that lies. 2nd boot isn’t working yet (Rom boots but no GSM, 3g services are working)

        So why should google, knowing this, be so stupid to think of a new Google Phone by Motorola?

        It just will be the first mainstream market phone shipped with gingerbread. What does that mean? nothing at all.
        And Motorola is general a Fail, so I don’t believe anything that leaks until I can order this phone. But I won’t, because Motorola seriously sucks.
        While my HTC Magic is already running smoothly on Froyo, my Milestone (GSM-Droid) is still stuck with 2.1 thanks to the locked bootloader.
        And stop posting links to Motofrenzy or anything. These roms are nice, but still running on a signed 2.1 Kernel, that’s no solution for future versions of android. No custom kernels built from AOSP source.
        Motorola is just a greedy bitch and every news about Moto makes me wanna throw up. They just love to screw their customers.
        I bought a Flash Ready phone and still it doesn’t run flash since 6 months.
        Stay away from that crap
        The milestone xt720 was advertised with 720 MHZ processor speed and it shipped with 550 MHZ
        They just recently released a update that “should” increase the cpu clock. Heard reports that the processor is still running on 550 after the update.

        • Florian RohrweckGuest 5 years ago

          oops, that shouldn’t be a reply ^^ sorry

        • RoccoRCGuest 5 years ago

          Florian Rohrweck!!!

          Relax man wow reading your post I can feel your rage and sickness.
          I agree with you in some parts (I’m a Droid user Original) I have to say I was really disappointed with Verizon, but the hardware is only as good as the software. I feel my phone has plenty of power I mean come on I won’t upgrade even if I get a free upgrade. I understand the part when companies play around with there consumers, not good at all, but limit on things hmmm I can’t point out fingers. Verizon does play a role as well as Motorola, with Respect I think its a business choice someones pulling some strings. Google phone nothing RELAX “Google traditionally targets a specific product launch for new releases of Android because it is easier to develop for a single device (then they release the source code so other hardware partners can port it to their devices). Verizon is the largest U.S. carrier and Motorola knows how to execute a big launch, so Google has chosen them to deliver Gingerbread to the masses. ” Google just only releases source codes “still using the Nexus One ( A sweet phone my I add!) to test it! SO Motorola will not be the next Google phone. (Don’t make me laugh!!!) I don’t see Motorola I only see a hardware phone.

          • David ThomasGuest 5 years ago

            No, no, he’s justified in his rage. My Motorola Cliq was scheduled to have a Q2 update to 2.1. Many months later, and I’m still staring at a table that says Q3/Q4 2010, with my phone touting 1.5 still, but I’ve given up hope on there even being an update at all.

            Motorola has shown time-and-time again that they don’t give a rat’s ass about the customers the moment a phone is released. As Carlton from Fresh Prince of Bel-Air would say, “They gave me the wink and the gun.” Yeah, they make some promises, and try to sound all sympathetic when they have to push it back, but they’re starting to lose a reputation that I’d like to think they worked so hard to build. You can’t jump in a new game using old rules. How come they can release two new 2.1 phones with Blur running, yet not update the Cliq/XT?

            I realize that they’re in business to ultimately make money, so whatever they feel justifies that goal is their business. But shafting users like Samsung does is not a good way to make repeat customers and gain love from the Android community. HTC is definitely the way to go if you even have remote knowledge of Android.

        • D dubb3000Guest 5 years ago

          you are right moto sucks for having bootloaders! why are people forgeting so quickly? i will stick with htc for now!

    • NortisanGuest 5 years ago

      First thing that came to my mind!

    • JustinGuest 5 years ago

      The nexus one will always get updates first its google’s phone. I thought they were first in recieving 2.2??

      • ScottGuest 5 years ago

        correction: it USED to be Google’s handset. Now the N1 is just another discontinued phone.

        • thebearingedgeGuest 5 years ago

          really? This comment is busted?

          C’mon people, these companies sell us these phones to make money, not friends….

        • well what do you think they’re using to develop and test gingerbread on right now? do they have another dev phone yet? last time i checked they didn’t.

          • llamaGuest 5 years ago

            Googlers to this day still use the N1 internally so I do not see support for the N1 fading anytime soon. When it comes to development the Android team develops there software across a large selection of current and future android hardware devices, so you can be sure they are tailoring their new OS for things like multithreading etc.

    • androidpriestGuest 5 years ago

      Yes, may still be the first to get the “upgrade” but not the first phone to have the latest android.

    • AndrewGuest 5 years ago

      It said first to ship with gingerbread, not the first to get gingerbread

      • MikeGuest 5 years ago

        Yes the Droid 2 was first to ship with froyo. That’s fine. Nexus One ftw.

    • NateradeGuest 5 years ago

      It will get the gingerbread update first, this will just be the first phone SHIPPED with ginger. Nexus has already shipped a long time ago :X lol obviously. But seriously though Nexus will mosty likely get the Google ginger update before this thing can ship. I mean come on it IS the ADP3!

    • AliGuest 5 years ago

      Maybe it means that it will
      be the first device to ‘launch’ with GB pre-installed, nexus one to be updated first? I dont know.. Just guessing !

      • kGuest 5 years ago

        You’re probably right. The Nexus One got FroYo in what–March? April? and the Droid 2 was the first device to ship with FroYo, in September.

  3. wallingsworthGuest 5 years ago

    androidandme falling into bs postings for hits now, ohnoez.

  4. resGuest 5 years ago

    I want to punch my Nexus One in the face right now.

  5. BigmerfGuest 5 years ago

    Won’t the nexus be the first with ginger

  6. Matthew WeberGuest 5 years ago

    I was under the impression that “Gingerbread” Was Android 3.0 not 2.5.

    Evidence here:

    http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/06/30/android-3-0-aka-gingerbread-gets-detailed/
    and here

    http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/20/android-gingerbread-is-planned-for-q4-2010/

    and here

    http://gizmodo.com/5578055/android-gingerbread-rumors-dismissed-by-google-on-twitter

    Maybe I missed something, but I don’t think so. Although there has been some confusion regarding the version number, I do not see anywhere, even on this site, where 2.5 has been mentioned.

    Could you provide a source please?

    • vitriolixGuest 5 years ago

      No one knows what Gingerbread will be. The make that decision after the development cycle is over, not ahead of time. Could be 2.5, could be 3.0… could even be 2.3

    • I also have always seen Gingerbread as 3.0, and Google is totally revamping the UI, so it’s a major upgrade from a user standpoint, not a minor one as the article states.

      Google even claimed that Gingerbread will make obsolete the crappy UI “enhancements” that manufacturers slap on Android.

      So, yes, it’s major.

  7. Abraham WilliamsGuest 5 years ago

    Hasn’t the consensus in the rumor mill thus far been that Gingerbread would be 3.0?

    • ToddGuest 5 years ago

      I don’t think anyone bothered to consult Google on that. Heck, for all we know, Gingerbread is 2.3 and Honeycomb will be 2.4.

      • ShaneGuest 5 years ago

        True. But there have been signs of testing for Android OS’s with version 3.0 and even higher than that, so we’re guessing that’s Gingerbread

  8. JAGGuest 5 years ago

    excelent! I hope to see a fisical keyboard

    • nateGuest 5 years ago

      Physical, you hope to see a physical keyboard.

      • BGuest 5 years ago

        Maybe he knows something we don’t

    • Robert PaulsonGuest 5 years ago

      What if he meant fiscal keyboard? Like, maybe it’s a keyboard that has nothing but symbols for international currency and it’s purely for leet speak. HAHA

    • hantuGuest 5 years ago

      stupid indonesian!

  9. SamGuest 5 years ago

    It’s faster and scrolling is smoother

    CM6 DS G1

  10. ToddGuest 5 years ago

    No official Android for tablets until Honeycomb? Does anyone need more proof that Eric Schmidt is still taking orders from Steve Jobs? As far as I’m concerned, Eclair would have made just as good a tablet as iOS 3.whatever.

    • BGuest 5 years ago

      Yea I need more proof. I dont know what you mean by official android. I had the understanding that honeycomb is just optimized for tablets. Its obviously not a necessity. For all intents and purposes, you could say samsung jumped the gun with the Tab.

    • GeeGuest 5 years ago

      I’m Android user and fan, but Froyo is not even close as good as iOS 3, let alone iOS 4. I’m talking tablets here BTW. Froyo makes no effort at not being a call-less up-sized smartphone.

  11. 2CGuest 5 years ago

    Some how I find it hard to believe that the current developers phone, the Nexus One won’t be one of the 1st phones with Gingerbread. If the article is accurate then maybe this Motorola phone will be the 1st phone that is sold in stores with Gingerbread preinstalled. And phones like the Nexus One & I’d have to imagine the G2 would receive the update ota before the end of the year.

    • SteveGuest 5 years ago

      Remember the Droid launch though, it had 2.0 (not that different from 1.6), then the Nexus launched with all of the goodies (2.1 and true Eclair), then the Droid was later brought up to speed.

      • But the Droid wasn’t the official Google phone or Google Android Dev phone. It’s not that big of a deal but it won’t help me to stick with the N1 past January.

    • GeeGuest 5 years ago

      Something that I’m worried about as a EVO user (which uses the same CPU/GPU) is that the graphic overhaul might be a little too much for the chip to handle. I’m almost certain that Gingerbread will finally bring GPU acceleration to Android’s UI.. problem is, the GPU in the first gen Snapdragon is WEAK! It’s even weaker than the original Droid and iPhone 3GS.

      Now I’m certain that the Nexus One will get Gingerbread but what if it runs somewhat poorly, releasing it on the Nexus One first might leave a really bad impression on Android. Might explain why it’s possible that this Tegra phone might get it first.

      • DanielGuest 5 years ago

        You don’t need that much GPU power for typical operations. The first two iPhones were pretty bad in the GPU department, yet good use of hardware acceleration made it smoother than even the current crop of Android phones in some areas. The Snapdragon should be more than enough.

        This is just like with desktop computers: you don’t need a ultra-modern graphics card to get better rendering on compositing window managers, it just needs not to suck. Maybe you’ll miss out on *excessively* fancy animations, but apart from that pretty much everything runs better. And those animations are more often than not in bad taste, fun the first few times you see them but really tiresome for prolonged use on a productivity device, so they shouldn’t even appear outside of games in the first place.

        • GeeGuest 5 years ago

          Yeah, but you’re ignoring one major thing, the Nexus One/EVO run at 800×480, the 3G/3GS ran at 320×480.

          • DanielGuest 5 years ago

            I did take that into account. The resolution change still isn’t nearly as big as the GPU difference between those models.

            For another comparison on the difference: the iPhone 4 has a less powerful GPU than the Galaxy S AND a bigger resolution (60% higher pixel count), yet it creams the SGS. For shame!

          • GeeGuest 5 years ago

            Yeah, that’s because iOS is GPU accelerated. Besides, the GPU in the iPhone 4 is over twice as fast as the Adreno 200 in the first generation Snapdragon.

  12. BGuest 5 years ago

    The first to run gingerbread? Even before Nexus One??

  13. Luke TGuest 5 years ago

    If only my contract was up with the original droid and hopefully it’s vanilla android.

  14. Unl1m1t3dGuest 5 years ago

    If it has Moto Blur or anything but stock Android, I want nothing to do with it.

  15. paulGuest 5 years ago

    Egregious header. What is this based on? Why is this wild speculation written as if it’s fact? I guess this is where I unsubscribe from your RSS feed.

  16. MiguelGuest 5 years ago

    I still think the Nexus One will get it first, but the Moto will be the first phone to be shipped with Gingerbread.

    I still am not sold on buying another Moto device though, after the debacle they have created with the liq update. My girlfriend has the Cliq and it does NOTHING due to being on 1.5. Last night I tried to purchase an app using Carrier billing on T-Mobile. No-Go. Only phones with 1.5 or higher support carrier billing. WTF!!!!!!

    It’s as if Motorola has ONE guy working on 2,1 for the Cliq.

    • DrewGuest 5 years ago

      Yep.. sad day for me too. I refuse to buy anything from either of these manufacturers after being sold the Behold II and then later seeing my friends get the Cliq XT( at my recommendation, since it was due to be upgraded) only to be disappointed. HTC seems to be my only option besides maybe LG if they decided to release something decent on TMo.. but so far all we sad T mobile people get are the dregs, and step children of the phone world.. sad day indeed.

  17. BS only reason I got the Nexus One was that it would be the first to get updates and it would not have all the phone-provider crap on it…

    Don’t fail me now, google!

  18. DavidGuest 5 years ago

    Whats with all this dual core hype? I mean I’ve yet to see even today’s computers really take advantage of multi-core processors in a fashion that really shows of their power. No the only things out there that really support multi-core processors are specialized scientific programs. Its all hype like the cpu clock speed and megapixel races.

    • DanielGuest 5 years ago

      One possible advantage of a multi-core processor is that background services could (theoretically) have a far less noticeable impact on the foreground app, which is a pretty bad problem on Android for real-time applications like games.

    • EricGuest 5 years ago

      What? No, there are tons of apps that use more than one core. Heck, even the OS itself uses more than one. Everything from games, movies, flash, all is either multicore nativly, or the OS sticks them on different cores to spread the load.

  19. ThomasGuest 5 years ago

    Dangit! Im still waiting on 2.2 (Galaxy S)!!! Its so frustrating that carriers and phone devs promise these goodies and take so frigging long to carry through. I just want 2.2 and heck by that time nexus will have 2.5 or whatever lol they need to slow down with updates. Only 28% of devices ate running 2.2 according to a stat on phonedog.com. Sheesh let us catch up already.

  20. ZachGuest 5 years ago

    Are you sure this is a phone and a not a tablet? Everyone first heard about that 2Ghz phone and even though it was debunked back in June people were still reporting that it was coming. I thought they were releasing a tablet and as far as another phone it got pushed back til early next year unless that changed.

  21. good2knowGuest 5 years ago

    I am excited, I bet this the Droid Pro I read about on engadget 4″ screen. Sounds like a great xmas gift

  22. KCGuest 5 years ago

    This exclusive update crap is slowing down the platform as a whole. Lets get all phones that meet hardware requirements 2.2 then gingerbread by the end of the year!

  23. CesarGuest 5 years ago

    Why would google not update their own phone to gingerbread before any other phone. Gingerbread is being tested and build on a nexus. It makes no sense this cannot be accurate….

  24. The Nexus One will definitely get gingerbread first!!! It just won’t be the phone to premiere gingerbread to the masses!!!

  25. Technically speaking the Nexus One is still an HTC phone, that was only available for service on T Mobile. How do we know that this isn’t Google’s next phone that is made by Motorola and available for service on Verizon. I’m just asking cause everyone seems to be in an uproar over the fact that google isn’t updating its own phones first.

  26. KhushGuest 5 years ago

    Why are ppl still complaining about the clq go root it if its such a bother Motorola isn’t the only onepromising updates and not dilivering …HTC. I have the hero and still no update lets just face it phones like the cliq. And hero are to limited hardware wise u can’t expect to be on the same level as the new high end phones and its higly unliky Motorola will leave a phone like thisand not update it.

  27. JaredGuest 5 years ago

    Aren’t you guys over reacting a bit? It is a rumour, that is based on information from Motorola.

    What this all likely means is that it will be the first phone to LAUNCH with Gingerbread. Motorola doesn’t know how fast Gingerbread will be on the Nexus One and they have no control over that.

  28. AlGuest 5 years ago

    Straight from the horse’s mouth:

    “When will other Google products support WebM and VP8?

    WebM support in Android is expected in the Gingerbread release (currently planned for Q4, 2010). We expect many other Google products to adopt WebM and VP8 as they prioritize it with their other product requirements. Keep an eye on the WebM blog for announcements.”

    http://www.webmproject.org/about/faq/

  29. Y314KGuest 5 years ago

    Damn it… Once again… Moto & Verizon are going to own Android… Thanks a lot TMobile & HTC… Great job owning Android…

    Why do I keep hearing GingerBread Tablets… Wasn’t that the whole point of Chrome OS… For tablet & netbook devices… Seems Google has gone mute on Chrome OS… Maybe Android 3.0 is a merged of Chrome OS & Android… WTH…

  30. Nexus will still be the first to get it… they are developing the new Android version on it.. it already exists doohh… it’s stupid to think that a phone not even made yet will get Ginger first.. dooh

  31. So the carrier and the handset maker with the most restrictions get it first? All I can say is WTF Google? Here I was thinking Android was supposed to be “Open”. Silly me. Verizon and Motorola are doing their best to be more “Apple-like” than anyone.

  32. Tito!Guest 5 years ago

    Anything that states Verizon, & Motorola. Makes me word vomit: “FAIL!”
    I hate Verizon. :b
    I hope it dies.
    Motorola I love (:

    FAIL VERIZON FAIL.
    Jocking T-Mobile’s Android Love.
    T-Mobile needs to kick some Red Check Mark butt. Seriously.

  33. nateGuest 5 years ago

    sounds good to me… i have verizon and my contract has been up since august. I’m glad going to wait hope this phone is amazing and has a slide out keyboard

  34. Don’t believe everything you read. Wouldn’t Google be working on Gingerbread now? (answer: Yes) What phone would they be using to test it? (answer: Nexus One)

  35. NammyGuest 5 years ago

    Lots of Motorola/Verizon hate, people need to realize Verizon and Motorola are the ones that put a large amount of their resources behind the Droid, they spent many millions in advertising and the Droid’s success put Android on the map.

    Google realizes this and I would not be the least bit surprised if Google shows a fondness for both Motorola and Verizon in the future.

  36. sarreqGuest 5 years ago

    I’m hoping for 2 things;
    1. that this will be an Android Experience phone, like the original Droid, and
    2. that this has a higher res display than the IPhone4. 1280x768x4.3″ would be amazingly nice…

  37. richGuest 5 years ago

    #motofail

  38. BetoGuest 5 years ago

    Nexus One Owners

    I still think we’ll get that update about the same time as the Moto/Verizon version. Im eagerly awaiting. :)

  39. Laura silvaGuest 5 years ago

    I can’t wrap my head around why everyone is hating on Verizon. Yeah sure, they’re nazi when it comes to restrictions, which every carrier has, but their coverage is the biggest and best. What’s the point of having a tricked out phone if you’re not able to use it, just saying.

  40. JJL84Guest 5 years ago

    Well, if they treat it like they did the original Droid, I’m in. However, I’m getting tired of Motorola after the whole issue with Froyo on my DX. I love the hardware of my DX, but I miss the “do whatever I want” with my Droid. So hopefully Google has more control over this new device, because I really love Moto’s hardware.

    • JAGGuest 5 years ago

      We love Moto’s Hardware!!!

      Best of west

  41. Chris MeyersGuest 5 years ago

    *Rolls his eyes* the comments on this board are about the most amusing thing I’ve ever read. For a group of developers and purported techies, you are the most insular, head-in-the-sand bunch I have ever seen. Let me give you some simple words (which you should already know) about Android progress and development, YOU CAN’T STOP RAPID PROGRESS. Your Nexus Ones are dead technology. We are now in the next phase. Multi core ARM CPUs, Cortex 9, and the next generation of GPUs, which are what? 4 times faster? Nobody is going to release a new OS with the primary focus on last generation technology. Seriously, I can only conclude you are all morons. This is akin to a bunch of people whining that WIndows 7 doesn’t run so hot on their Pentium 4′s after having entered the I3/I5/I7 era. You might as well get used to this pattern. Nothing you get in January is going to have the flagship status and technology enough to be the launch device of an OS that comes out the next year. I mean the G1 came out not even 2 years ago. I don’t recall anybody whining 1 year ago that the G1 wasn’t still the flagship device for Android 2.0. Seriously, catch up, get with the times, and if you’re a developer or Android enthusiastic, for heavens sakes get modern hardware every year. It’s a phone or tablet, they’re cheap.

  42. CamGuest 5 years ago

    I wouldn’t be surprised to see a leaked Gingrbread ROM for the nexus real soon….

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