Oct 21 AT 4:35 PM Taylor Wimberly 82 Comments

Rumor: Samsung will have a Google-experience phone this year

Before we jump into today’s juicy rumor, I felt I owed my loyal readers a little explanation about where I get my info and how I choose to share it. In the past I have done a poor job with separating the actual rumors from my commentary and I realize this has caused some confusion and led some to believe I just make a lot of stuff up.

For starters, if it wasn’t already obvious – I am not a trained journalist so I don’t follow their rules. Some companies may refer to me as a journalist or member of the press, but I’m really just a blogger who has been covering the mobile space since the introduction of the first Android phone.

I’m a pretty modest guy, but this past year I have traveled the world and been fortunate enough to make lots of new friends including people at every U.S. carrier, several chipset makers, and all the big handset makers. I’m not going to bore you with every trade show that I’ve been to, but if a company was holding an Android related event this past year, then I probably attended it.

On the scale of Android Insiders I would probably rank myself a 6 (with 10 being the top), but I have regular contact with a few 7s and 8s. I travel quite a bit looking for the next big story so every now and then I find myself in a room with some 9s and 10s. These are the people that provide me with info along with a tight-knit group of fellow Android bloggers.

Leaked information is shared with me on a frequent basis by three types of sources. There are those people that leak info to create buzz for a particular company or product, those that leak info to hurt the competition, and those that leak just for the fun of it.

Most of the info I receive is always “off the record” and if I went public with it someone would lose their job or I could have my door kicked in like Gizmodo’s Jason Chen. Some people just hate info that comes from an anonymous source, but if I have a piece of information that I believe to be true and I am able to share it then you can bet I’m going to write a post about it.

I have broke a lot of big stories over the last year, but I will be the first to admit that I sometimes get parts of the story wrong. The benefit of writing for a high-traffic site is that a lot of people read your work and many are quick to point out when you get off-target.

My two misses this year were the all U.S. phones getting Android 2.1 and the Motorola Gingerbread exclusive. For the Android 2.1 story I got my info from several sources at different carriers which told me all their phones would be upgraded and they believed other carriers would follow suit. The said carriers did upgrade their phones to Android 2.1, but as you know by now several decided not to spend the money on software updates and many phones were left behind.

For the Motorola Gingerbread story I got my info from one source at a hardware partner involved with the project, but I now believe it was outdated (more on that tomorrow). There are normally up to 5 major companies involved in most flagship phone launches, so the info that one partner has could be outdated and often subject to change.

In order to provide you with the most accurate information, I will now clearly label any posts that contain a rumor and make sure to separate the rumor from my commentary.

Back to your regularly scheduled programming…

The rumor: Samsung and Google are working together on a Google-experience phone that will be one of the first to ship with Gingerbread. The device will be ready late this year, but it will only be for testers. Features include an AMOLED display and support for MasterCard PayPass. No carrier partners have been revealed.

The sources: My first source wishes to remain anonymous, but we go way back and I trust them. They have provided me with several pieces of info over the years that have always turned out to be true and they have yet to let me down.

After posting this story a second Android Insider from one of the U.S. carriers has confirmed this rumor. This source also goes way back with me and has no relation to the first. Based on the information I have from both sources, I have no doubt this phone is real.

One Android Insider’s take on the rumor: When I first heard this rumor I was a little shocked because Samsung has not shipped a Google-experience phone in awhile, but the more I thought about my travels over the last several months, I started to piece together the puzzle.

This week I have been MIA because I went to visit with TI to talk about their new OMAP4 processor. They cancelled on me at the last minute so I used the downtime to chat with some old friends and dig up some new info on this secret Samsung phone.

The first thing that popped in my head was an article that said Samsung had a Q4 hole when it came to new smartphones this holiday season. I heard some Samsung executives were pretty unhappy with the story and I got the general feeling that the story would be proven wrong by Christmas.

We hoped to get a glimpse of what Samsung was working on at their CTIA press conference earlier this month, but it was unexpectedly cancelled just a day before it was scheduled to take place. I tried to get some details out of Samsung about what they had planned to announce, but all I got was “wait and see”.

Since that time I have heard nothing related to new Samsung phones (minus the Verizon Continuum) until this rumor popped up that claimed they were working on a Google-experience phone specifically for Gingerbread.

This would be a change in strategy for Samsung to go away from the custom TouchWiz UI, but we have often heard that Google’s Gingerbread would make custom skins pointless. We haven’t exactly seen rave reviews about the TouchWiz brand, so I think it is quite believable for Samsung to ditch it in exchange for early access to Gingerbread.

I was lead to believe that the Motorola Olympus (Terminator) would be the first phone with Gingerbread, but I think that is no longer the case. Motorola doesn’t exactly place the highest importance on shipping with the latest firmware, but Samsung has increased their efforts to use Google’s latest offering on their new devices and was the first company to admit they were working on a Honeycomb tablet.

Next I thought of my conversation with W.P. Wong, head of Samsung Mobile’s product planning team, at IFA last month in Berlin. When I got to ask my questions the two things I focused on were Samsung’s willingness to ship a Google-experience phone and the possibility of them using a non-Samsung processor like NVIDIA’s Tegra 2 in future products.

When it came to a Google-experience phone, W.P. Wong said they were not ready to talk about any future products but I got the feeling that something was coming soon from his body language. On the topic of Samsung processors in Samsung phones, I was told they would use whatever is the best technology available and they were open to working with new hardware partners.

It turns out I was on the right trail when asking about Samsung using Tegra 2, because a month later NVIDIA CEO Jen-Hsun Huang confirmed that Samsung was very important to their long term business and represented one of their biggest customers.

I have absolutely no idea what processor is inside this Samsung Google-experience phone, but based on the timing it I believe it will be Samsung’s 1 GHz Hummingbird SoC or maybe a refreshed part that has been clocked up to 1.2 GHz. We have heard of a new Samsung processor codenamed Garnett (from the leaked Verizon roadmap) so that leads me to believe it could be a refresh part.

Samsung also announced their dual-core Orion processor and said it would be available to “select customers” in the fourth quarter and mass production will occur in 2011. There is a small chance this could be a dual-core phone, but based on the overall timing I do not believe that Orion will be used yet. I have been hearing that Gingerbread is not fully optimized for dual-core processors quite yet, but it is actively being worked on.

Finally we have the MasterCard Paypass support in this new Samsung phone, which is just too random for someone to make up. This technology has been used in phone since I believe 2006, but it has yet to really catch on in the United States. We know that Google wants people to use their phones to purchase goods and services, so it makes sense that someone reached out to MasterCard to implement this new feature.

The final take: I believe this Samsung phone will be one of the first to ship with Gingerbread since it is a Google-experience device. Unlike previous versions of Android, I do not think there is a lead platform for Gingerbread. I expect we will see Gingerbread appear on a number of phones including the Nexus One (Qualcomm CPU), Motorola Droid (TI CPU), and even the myTouch 3G (also Qualcomm).

Look for more details to appear about this phone once it hits the hands of the testers late this year. If Google or Samsung does not officially announce the phone this year, I expect we will see it in some form at CES in January.

And the people say: What do you think about Samsung producing a Google-experience phone with a stock version of Gingerbread? Is anyone going to miss the TouchWiz UI? Which processor do you think Samsung has chosen for their latest phone? Will they use their Hummingbird, the rumored Garnett, the dual-core Orion, or maybe even NVIDIA’s Tegra 2?

Taylor is the founder of Android and Me. He resides in Dallas and carries the Samsung Galaxy S 4 and HTC One as his daily devices. Ask him a question on Twitter or Google+ and he is likely to respond. | Ethics statement

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  • http://Website M3rc Nate

    Very interesting. I really like (and have always figured it worked that way) your description of having “sources” and when they are right or wrong.

    What peaked my interest (as a current mytouch 3g owner) is hearing my mytouch 3g might get Gingerbread?! Wow…i was expecting the currently OTA rollout of Froyo to be the last mytouch3g update.

    I am however not totally clear on what Samsung Google Experience phone means, it will be like the Nexus-One but made by google not HTC right? I hope that also means it will be available for Tmobile in a large way just like the N1 was. :D

    -Mytouch 3G owner (1.6 waiting for my 2.2 OTA)
    -Soon to be G2 owner

    • http://Website M3rc Nate


      *it will be like the Nexus-One but made by Samsung not HTC right?

    • http://androidandme.com Taylor Wimberly

      Yes, the phone will be manufactured by Samsung, but Google will be responsible for the software experience. What this means in the big picture, I do not know yet. It is possible this phone could turn into the next developer phone or it could appear on all carriers just like the Galaxy S.

      • M3rc Nate

        Thank you for the reply! :) Well i’ll definitely be keeping tabs on this phone from now on. With rumors of Emerald being wrong (ended up only being Mytouch 4G..not impressed) and with rumors of “70% chance of Iphone on T-mobile by Q4″ being assumed wrong…i cant keep waiting for THE super phone [aka dual core, amazing large screen, etc etc], im biting the bullet and getting the G2.

        (Btw those 2 rumors i don’t believe i read here, so im not saying YOU said them).

      • eddieonofre

        wouldn’t this mean that the Nexus One wouldn’t get Gingerbread??? Why would google release a new OS on a phone other than the Nexus One???? would it be that the nexus one will be one of those phone to stay on 2.2??? Therefore this new Samsung phone will be the new Nexus One???

        • http://Website Nate

          don’t worry, even if it doesn’t “get gingerbread” it will definitely be getting gingerbread from the cyanogen mod team. I also highly doubt that Google would stop updating the Nexus One after only a year.

        • http://Website Scott

          It is not an arbitrary decision by Google how long they continue to publish software updates for the Nexus One. I would imagine it is mostly dependent upon whether the hardware can handle the update or not. Yay the Nexus One was designed and built to last more than one generation but that Snapdragon and 512MB RAM will eventually be too little.

      • uzunoff

        As long as Google pushes the updates, that phone would be a winner. That is why I love the Nexus One. The best thing about owning a smart phone is getting the newest updates first. If touchwiz still makes it on it…. maybe I will take your advice and get a G2, instead of the MyTouch HD

  • http://Website Earthrazer

    Just as long as this leads or contributes to a 5.5″ Super AMOLED, Tegra 2 Galaxy S phone by next summer…

  • http://Website Bigmerf

    Depending on its features it may be the phone that pulls me away from my Nexus. Front facing camera, dual core, wifi calling, if its Tmobile, etc. We shall see. All in all i hope google doesnt forget about us early adopters

  • http://zalzalaweb.com/jens anakin78z

    A few notes:
    Samsung HAS shipped a google experience phone… The Samsung Galaxy (no S), which only launched in Europe (and maybe other places, but not the US). And I believe the Moment is stock Anddroid as well, though I may be wrong.

    Also, while Samsung may have a Q4 Android hole, I believe it’s got wp7 smartphones coming out.

    Personally I don’t know if I trust Samsung, though admittedly I will be the first in line for a Tab. As far as their phones go, though, I don’t really trust them to do a decent job of keeping with the times (software wise). The Galaxy S phones are already way behind schedule, and it’s a shame.

  • http://Website Max

    Am I the only one that thinks that the rate at which we are blazing past updates is a little too fast?

    • M3rc Nate

      Wasnt there a conference or article somewhere talking about how there would be a lot of scrambling and (basically fragmentation for lack of better word) but after Gingerbread (dont quote me) they would start to implement OS updates once a year, at a more standardized and normal rate?

  • http://Website Tyler

    I have the Nexus One and still consider it the best Android phone because it came with the stock UI. No dumb crap carriers think you might like.

    Anyway, there’s only one UI I was actually impressed with that wasn’t custom; Sony Xperia. But that’s not even getting 2.2.

    If Samsung makes a phone collaborating with Google on the design and leaves the UI alone, I’m all for it. IF it is for T-Mobile. I still think carriers play a big part in what I buy. T-Mobile still allows me free wifi hotspot and the G2 has VoiP. I dont care how badass somebody thinks their Evo or Droid is; I can make the best of Android while they’re stuck with a mobile carrier holding them back from enjoying the 100% features of Android.

    • Nicko01

      The original Droid is also a “with Google” phone. I would even argue that it’s been hacked more than the N1. There are tons of custom ROMs available, custom kernels that can be overclocked to 1.3GHz, several choices for recovery, and plenty of other cool hacks available, like Wireless Tether, etc.
      The Droid X, Droid 2, and a few other Droid series phones are not so hackable, but you can’t say the original Droid is left behind.

      • eddieonofre

        Agree The Original Droid it is as stock as the Nexus One, thus as hackable.

        • http://Website Usman

          Stock, yes… but not completely unadulterated like the Nexus One. Portable hotspot and the updated launcher are two things, off the top of my head, that were excluded from the Droid’s update. I’m sure there are more..

      • http://Website Scotter

        But the Nexus One got updates, including 2.2, before any Droid and the Droid requires root (hack) to do things the stock Nexus One handles faster. Only other snapdragons (HTC) and hummingbirds (Samsung) beat the Nexus One but do any of them have 2.2? Evo does, right? Those Droid phones seem kinda cool but no Motorola for me.

    • http://Website Adrian

      Absolutely, because it’s impossible to Flash a Custom Rom/Kernel on the two phones you mentioned…. Wait a minute… I guess if you have 20 minutes it’s completely possible.

      • http://Website Plasmid Flame

        Not everyone is savvy to try flashing ROMs. I hate how some Android users make this assumption. Should we assume that everyone that has a PC knows how to code JavaScript?

        Also, keep in mind that not every user wants to take the risk of bricking their device.

  • http://Website Gee

    If this is Google’s next developer phone this could potentially be huge. The Galaxy S was a multi-carrier phone, just about everyone was offering it. Nexus One kind of attempted this and ultimately failed, but maybe Samsung can get it done.

    Having up to date, Google supported, high end Android phones on all carriers would go a long way to shake up the fragmentation problem.

    Hmmm.. if only I could get rid of the bitter taste of Samsung buggy hardware out of my mouth it’d be perfect.

    • http://Website Usman

      The only reason Samsung “got it done” with the SGS phones is because they allowed the carriers to have input on the phone design and what features would be included/excluded in the software. That’s unacceptable. The carriers should be nothing more than the dumb pipes they were meant to be… the phone manufacturer should just try to provide the best phone they can build. Samsung doesn’t do that, ergo, they get no money from me.

      • http://Website Lars

        you know thats really weird, since the SGS was also released in EU and here the Carrier has no influence. does the US SGS have more features than the EU version? the galaxy got 2,2 update last week i think, if the phones are the same tjek out XDA and ask for a Rom, then you’d be rid of all the carrier specific stuff.

        what software do your carriers put on your phones? and isent it possible to get the phone unlocked and with no carrier, then you could just copy the Rom.

  • silk7

    Has anyone thanked Taylor Wimberly for getting us the news we need? If not- thank you dude !!

  • http://Website Andrew53517


    What do you think the chances are that Samsung takes advantage of the networks with this phone? Like WIMAX, LTE, HSPA…

    • http://androidandme.com Taylor Wimberly

      I have heard no deals about network support. Samsung was the first with a WiMAX and LTE phone in the U.S. though. I wouldn’t be surprised if all their future phones supported at least one of the new “4G” networks.

      • http://Website Andrew53517

        Very true with Sprint. Hopefully they could bring it to Verizon! Thanks again!

      • http://Website DaveC

        Any of your sources know if Corpus is inline for HSPA+ any time soon?

        • http://androidandme.com Taylor Wimberly

          Yeah T-Mobile said all of their current 3G network should be upgraded by the end of the year. Hopefully we should see some increased speeds over the next few months.

          • http://Website DaveC

            I was just at the Waldron T-Mo store and they told me the towers at Glenoak and Whitecap are going to be upgraded to HSPA in November. I’ll still put that in my “I’ll believe it when I see it” file, but if it happens, then a N1 upgrade is in order.

      • http://Website Usman

        Am I missing something…? I thought HTC’s Evo 4G was the first WiMax device…

  • http://Website Cuban B

    Recieved 2.2 update last night for my touch 3g where’s that story?

    • http://Website Cuban B

      Update stated capabilty for live wallpapers though I’m finding that not to be true, any answers?

      • http://Website el josho b

        I have that phone too my friend and let me tell you, it wouldn’t be able to support live wallpapers its not fast enough you have to have realized by now how slow our phone is.

  • http://Website Hans

    “I was a little shocked because Samsung has never not shipped a Google-experience phone in awhile” wait,what? Sorry, I’m having a bit of trouble understanding that part.

    Anyway, this phone sounds really good. One small negative is no SuperAmoled? Hm, I guess that’s okay.

  • http://Website JaylanPHNX

    I’m really hoping this will be multi-carrier like the Galaxy S. I think manufactures competing on the basis of phones and carriers competing on the basis of plans/customer service is the future and a bright one at that.

  • http://Website Trevor

    I would be nervous buying a Samsung phone again. My beautiful Vibrant does not have a functional gps, and probably never will!

    • http://androidandme.com Taylor Wimberly

      Really? T-Mobile already pushed out the fix over the air.

      • Azeem

        I can confirm this for you, Taylor. My co-worker has a Vibrant that used to get either no or completely inaccurate GPS readings. After the update, she’s now able to get correct GPS readings and use her Navigation without getting sent down to Illinois from Minnesota. =)

  • http://Website tk

    I’m with Trevor, its gonna be hard for me to trust Samsung.

    Even after the Behond 2 fiasco, I trusted Samsung and bought the Vibrant, thinking they would definitely support such a widely launched phone series, and I took their word that Froyo would come in September.

    Then it was just a row of disappointment. First was the horrible GPS, I couldn’t believe how the biggest consumer electronics manufacturer in the world could release a smartphone without a feature as important as a functional GPS. Then I would out how horrible unoptimized the software was. The lag was insane on a phone with such powerful hardware, at times it would feel like I was back on my G1 with the lag. Yes there’s the lag fix the guys at XDA came up with, but I didn’t want to root and do that. I tinkered with my G1 to ADD features, not to fix problems.

    So finally I just got a G2 and sold the Vibrant and I can’t believe how much better the G2 is. No wonder the Vibrant doesn’t have a “with Google” logo on it, even Google knew it was crap.

    So back to my initial point, its gonna be hard to trust Samsung. Now if it truly is a Google Experience phone then I guess I would be fine with it since if there’s one company I trust, its Google and they will make sure their flagship phone is good. But it has to be in Google’s hands, I will probably never again buy a Samsung phone with Samsung handling the software.

    • http://zalzalaweb.com/jens anakin78z

      Completely agree. I think there’s a huge gap between Samsung hardware and Samsung software. The hardware guys seem to know what they’re doing, but somehow the software guys just don’t have their stuff together. Considering this is their flagship mobile device (right?), you really expect quality, and not these damaging bugs. I know several people who are generally happy with their Galaxy S phones, but these things just get in the way. And every time I pick up one of their phones I’m surprised at how quickly I start missing features from 2.2.
      Samsung needs to focus on user experience, and that should mean usability first, custom ui and apps second.

  • http://Website Andrew

    I highly doubt we will see Gingerbread on the Motorola Droid. I think Froyo was even a little too much for the Droid to handle.

    • http://Website lars

      isent 2,2 easier on the system than 2,0 due to improvements to the javaVM?

    • http://Website Milner

      What are you talking about. It runs at least as well as earlier versions.

  • http://Website Chad

    I dont ANYONE will miss touchwiz, you know what would be amazing if samsung updates the galaxy s phones to gingerbread and get rid of touchwiz, hahaha we can only dream

  • http://Website john

    I remember hearing that Samsung was gonna make the nexus two this was like 2 months ago

  • http://Website Derek

    Yea, screw Samsung. The galaxy s is a buggy glitchy piece of crap. The s-amoled screen looks good but is an extreme battery hog.

    I’m still wondering if and when Samsung will put out the 2.2 update. But anything without touchwiz is a good thing. Too bad galaxy s was without it. It’d be much easier to mod and put aosp on it.

  • http://Website Usman

    Sweet… and I’ll bet it will only take a year after a release to be updated.

    • http://Website zedklind

      thats fine… because google alread said that after gingerbread the android releases will be 1year apart instead of 6months… read up. surprises me how many people comment before doing their research..

      • http://Website Kevin

        Reading comprehension isn’t a strength huh?

      • http://Website Usman

        Wow… it surprises me when people exhibit a lackluster mastery of the English language. I said it would still a year AFTER RELEASE to update the device… After release of the new OS version.

  • http://Website Robert

    The Samsung/Google experience is that the phone won’t have a working GPS or Compass and it will never see Honeycomb.

  • http://Website Lucian

    Good job on coming out with a Google Experience phone, Samsung! I hope more will follow.

    I also hope for a phone with 4.3″ Super AMOLED 2 (next gen) without any subpixel issues, that is good for reading, and with Tegra in it.

    • http://Website Drew

      …don’t forget ffc, 10 megapixel camera, dual flash, hdmi out, 1080p video, wifi hotspot.. all coming to TMOBILE!


      • http://Website Kruze

        everything there sounds good, except T-Mo, i wish it would come to AT&T the service is way better where i live haha

  • http://First(andlast)Samsung Stefan

    The Galaxy S was my first Samsung device due to the excellent hardware specs, BUT Samsung is obviously not a software company or they just don’t care. It is almost November and no Froyo in sight (Greece). Extremely frustrating!! Next Android will come from a company dedicated to their customers. HTC?

  • http://Website RellikZephyr

    it would be good to see this, as samsung do make really nice hardware

    but im not yet convinced to buy another samsung android phone since being so badly burned by the original Galaxy

    and samsung has yet to prove they are committed to android and its updates ( late Froyo delivery)
    if the Galaxy S gets honeycomb, i might believe samsung is ready to play ball, until then i refuse to buy a Samsung Android phone


    • http://Website RellikZephyr

      EDIT: i mean… if Galaxy S gets Gingerbread (Not Honeycomb)

      my point being, will samsung commit to more than 1 update to a phone


  • http://Website Tom

    Hey taylor, very nice article once again! I consider you a very honest, straightforward and devoted resource, just to say this.

    I believe samsung makes great hardware, but they lack the software skills. Owning a SGS and one of their notebooks now I believe they will resign and drop the software part to google, which will be able to support every hardware in smartphone out there anyway, which is needed for them to become the next windows. The linux concept demands it anyway.

    Looking very forward to this, SGS can be an imposition at times.

    • http://Website Kevin

      “I believe they will resign and drop the software part to google”

      I didn’t even consider that. Vanilla ASOP gingerbread directly from Google. That is actually a pretty good marriage. Samsung’s exceptional hardware and bypassing their embarrassing software support.

  • http://Website caabbyy

    I’m glad to hear this , but I’m rooting more for htc to come out with a multi carrier phone line like samsung did with galaxy s. There phones all look nice but…they should’ve shipped with up to date software 2.2 ,like the htc g2 did. But I still prefer samsung over motorola :)

  • http://Website Kevinthebox

    Taylor, what makes you think that the myTouch 3g will get gingerbread. Did you get this juicy bit of info from your sources or are you merely speculating?

  • http://Website Loodawg

    All those people down talking the sgs, yes the software issue is upsetting. As for the hardware, its supercapable. I’m running bionix 1.8 with OC and voodoo and this thing is fast. Another major plus is once froyo is in Cyanogen can finalize their Tom for it. Yes Cyanogen already got 6.0.2 running on a vibrant. They just need the froyo kernel to fine tune it. Drool

  • http://Website Kevin

    If it’s true that’s truely a shame that Google would align themselves with such an incredibly poor mobile phone partner. A year after it’s release the HTC Nexus One google phone is still among the best of the smartphone bunch while the galaxy S phones stumble along with broken GPS’s, an absurd file system and 2.1 six months after 2.2 was released to the public. Between the Behold debacle and Samsung’s obvious ineptitude within their mobile phone sector with the Galaxy, it’s hard to understand why Google would choose them to go forward with the next big Android thing.

  • http://Website Anthony

    Taylor nice article its nice to see you take responsibility when your information is wrong. I think that shows true credibility.
    I haves a nexus one the first real iPhone killer. The nexus one may not hold the crown any more but still remains one of the best considering age. The key to pry my nexus from my hands will be a dual core FCC and vanilla. I see a lot of other phones out there now but yet to see one that smokes my nexus. The point is why retire it if it still receives updates first. I want to jump way ahead not marginally. I will watch and wait but till then my nexus is still very alive and in my opinion still the all around best bet.

  • http://Website Pax

    Anything BUT Samsung please!!!

  • http://www.hagrin.com z6

    This would definitely show a change in direction for Samsung. I for one would disagree that Motorola has lagged in shipping the newest firmware. They were the first to ship 2.0, and, I believe, they were the first to ship new phones with 2.2 (DroidX/Droid2), along with providing updates for droid 1… I’m not too familiar with the lower-end phones they ship. Samsung on the other hand is far behind in this area. The Behold debacle, the Galaxy S mess. As far as I know there are no Samsung phones that currently run 2.2 (non-moded that is). Granted, it doesn’t seem like this strategy has worked for them. Going by the heavy discounts and BOGO sales offered with the Galaxy line in the US, I assume sales hadn’t been that great here.

    I can definitely see Google wanting to make a N2 though, although I question why they would potentially strain a good relationship with HTC, unless they want SAMOLED and try a new processor other than the snapdragon line.

    The N1 really pushed the bar higher which helped Android. Since then, there really have only been imitations and nothing that builds on top of it. There have been some good things here and there, but no complete package that really raises the bar.

    • http://Website Earthrazer

      Lots of phones are BOGO these days, the economy sucks. Hell, I wrangled BOGO and an early upgrade on a line out of Tmo on a pair of VIbrants when they launched…and still have yet to find another phone that makes me want to trade it in! :)

      Last I saw the Galaxy S as a whole had cleared 5 million units, that’s no small sale. There are actually a few things on touchwiz 3.0 I really like, such as being able to swipe left or right to message or call contacts.

      Still, I think Samsung, and all manufacturers, would do far better to incorporate stock Android with a few of their own apps and widgets loaded on the phone. That would updoubtedly speed the upgrade process, as well as give the consumer a few options of whether or not to use stock or manufactuerer specific apps/widgets instead. And then there’s always the market beyond that.

      Barring Verizon’s horrible plan to slap Bing on Android and lock out Google search rather than provide both *cough* old IE lawsuits revisited? *cough*, the future is looking pretty dang bright for Android!

  • http://Website jason

    I hope they ditch the antiquated, FAT-based, proprietary, dirt-slow RFS filesystem.

  • http://Website killi

    nice article Taylor. i just want o point one thing out, samsung hardware+ Google software+ all carriers=epic win. i know i know but hear me out on this, samsung makes good hardware we can all attest to that, they make their own chips and screens as well, lets put that aside for now. why was the nexus one create in the first place? to really push the envelope, to show android’s potential at that current state, and to set the standards of future high end androids. it seems to me Google wants to do this again with gingerbread. by using this partnership Google can do this using oh i don’t know maybe one of samsung’s next gen chips, screens, and other hardware along with their next gen version of android, thus reaching their goal. and what u ask might samsung get out of this, well of course the get the Google name behind their phone as well as since this will be the gingerbread answer to nexus one(not saying the n1 will not see gingerbread) this phone will be treated like the nexus in terms of updates. by samsung having a phone that is one of the first in line for future updates, there will be less samsung bashing comments and their market share as well as overall sales will be boosted. all im saying is this partnership isn’t as unlikely as you may think

  • http://Website OhhJohnny

    Holy crap, get to the fuc*ing point quicker. No sh*t you’re not a trained journalist because you spend 40 minutes talking about yourself instead of getting to the story. Even good bloggers know you should get to the most interesting parts first.

  • http://Website Lars

    any word on screen size? or any specs?

  • http://Website shaundizzle

    idk what processor they will use, but i can definitely imagine them doing a google device. this allows for them to stay on top of any and all updates for this phone.

    • http://Website lars

      i agree, simply from a marketing perspective it would close all the bad press Samsung had to deal with due to slow updates.

  • http://Website Eric

    “After posting this story a second Android Insider from one of the U.S. carriers has confirmed this rumor.”
    Witch U.S. carrier does this second android insider work for???

  • Snafu77

    The MasterCard Paypass point fits in too. Bank Of American and Visa are supposed to be testing a microSD cell based remote payment system (possibly NFC) now or shortly in NY. Timing fits in well for releasing a product that competes with the hardware option Visa is trying to move with.

  • http://Website Plazmic Flame

    I think people are getting too worked up over the phone being made by Samsung. First off, we have to understand that, if Google is the one approaching Samsung to make this phone then we can assume that this is going to be the next dev phone from Google and we all know that would mean we don’t need to wait on Samsung to issue software updates as they would come straight from Google.

    Also, from reading the comments, people are confusing themselves (and most likely others) with the terminology they’re using….. For example: A “Google Experience” phone is much different than a phone that is made “with Google”. According to Google themselves, there are only 2 “with Google” devices and the only one they upgrade directly is the Nexus 1.

    So if this is just a “Google Experience” device, I would pass. If it’s the next “with Google” device AND the next dev phone, I will get it in a heart beat.

  • http://Website Mike

    My Galaxy S is a let down. Poor battery life, buggy GPS, bad lag (pre voodoo lagfix), unimpressive camera, glitchy 3G/Wifi performance.