Jun 27 AT 10:58 AM Nick Gray 16 Comments

Telstra goes Senseless, removes HTC Sense from HTC Desire’s Gingerbread update

If you thought the HTC Desire Gingerbread saga was over, think again! After announcing the HTC Desire would not be updated to Gingerbread due to the handset’s internal memory limitation, HTC backtracked. They stated a stripped down version of HTC Sense would allow them to fit the new update on the phone.  But now Telstra has a solution of their own.  Rather than strip out a few extra app or widgets from HTC Sense, Telstra plans to update the HTC Desire to Gingerbread by not including HTC Sense in the Rom at all.

Due to the increased memory requirements of the ‘Gingerbread’ update, new software that does not include HTC’s Sense UI is being prepared.Telstra Support

Android purists should be really excited about this news.  Many of you commented before that HTC should simply strip out Sense in order to make Gingerbread fit on the Desire.  While we applaud Telstra for taking the matter seriously and listening to the community, we’re not exactly sure how Telstra’s HTC Desire users will feel about this move.  Removing Sense from the Desire will completely change the phone and how users interact with it.

Has Telstra made the right call by stripping out HTC Sense in order to fit the Gingerbread update?

Nick is a tech enthusiast who has a soft spot for HTC and its devices. He started HTCsource.com (the first HTC blog) back in 2007 and later joined the Android and Me family in the summer of 2010.

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  • http://Website Ben

    They absolutely made the right decision and here’s why.
    The increased life of the phone and better user experience (subjective I know) will most likely translate to a repeat Android experience with the next purchase and continued business for those Telstra customers. The disenfranchised feeling customers get when feeling forced to upgrade due to a crippled device leads to dis-satisfaction and possible churn.
    I put Cyanogen mod on my wife’s Eris with stripped down GB (Ginger Short Bread?) and she thinks it’s a whole new phone with a familiar feel. The learning curve when switching from the Sense UI to the stock GB was a short one and an expensive upgrade was avoided.
    Score +1 for the flexibility of Android and another +1 for a service provider making a good call!

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  • http://Website GldRush98

    Another tick in the “why third part add ons shouldn’t be allowed” column.

  • http://Website Cole

    I agree with the decision to support the software update, but is it really necessary? I think Android’s flexibility (as pointed out in a previous comment) allows for user’s who really want the update (and can actually explain why they want it) to update the device themselves. Forcing an update to people who may not want to learn how to do things could lead to a bad experience, but then again, are those the people who really use the phones to the best of it’s ability anyway? I support Telstra, but their may be some backlash, which if unfortunate. Especially since the company’s trying to support it’s Android fan base.

  • http://htcsource.com Nick Gray

    I think Telstra is doing the right thing here, but they may be going about it all wrong. For years HTC has been adding value to their Windows Mobile and Android phones by adding additional functionality that other handsets do not have out of the box. Many of you consider HTC Sense to be bloatware, but it adds a layer of refinement and a lot of extra functionality that is not included in stock Android.

    Telstra should give the Desire users the option to go stock Android or the stripped down version of HTC Sense. Android has always been about freedom, so let’s give users the freedom to choose which version they want running on their phones.

    • http://Website Dags

      I think you’ll find that Testra are one of the most closed, greedy carriers anywhere in the world and this is just a mistake on behalf of whoever is preparing the updates for this page. Expect to see a stripped down version of Sense on the GB update for the Telstra Desire.

  • http://Website zorbthegeek

    What’s a Gingerbread update?
    –Signed G2x

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      Google’s newest iteration of android for phones

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      A 6 month old version of the Android OS.
      -Signed Nexus S

  • http://Website Kid english

    Am I the only person here that likes htc sense? It’s why I bought the desire in the first place – is go mad to update and lose it.

    • krazytrixxxsta

      not at all. im also a lover of sense, ive always prefer sense over stock.

    • http://htcsource.com Nick Gray

      Hey, I’m a huge Sense fan. I honestly get annoyed when Android users compare HTC Sense with the other custom UI’s that are out there. HTC has done a lot for Android with HTC Sense and a lot of the features that are now standard in stock Android were first seen on HTC Sense.

    • http://Website astria

      Sense was good, back in the days of Sense 1.0 (Hero, Legend, Desire)…

      but Sense 2.0 and 3.0 are juz so bloated that u won’t use half of them…

      HTCSense.com? it breaks on most days… Lookout Mobile is far more stable…

      HTC Locations? why do i need that when i ve Google Maps? offline maps? I can pre-load the map on GMaps too…

  • http://Website Stephen RC

    I always find it surprising how many people try hard to get rid of HTC Sense. I personally really like it. I think it looks great, and works nicely.

    My question to Telstra is: Are you stripping out HTC Sense for the sole purpose of keeping your annoyingly pointless spam apps on the Desire, or stripping out both to provide a super slim and fast gingerbread experience?

    I will be so pissed off if the upgrade removes Sense and leaves all the annoying Telstra apps (or adds more!!). I don’t know anyone who actually uses them, and if both Sense + TelstraApps won’t fit on my phone, I’d rather keep the one I actually want to use.

  • http://Website Darren

    Honestly, I think this is BS. What’s more likely:

    Telstra is going to hack a HTC ROM and release it as an official update for their phone thus confusing all their existing customers who are used to Sense,

    or someone has done a poor job of re-interpreting HTC’s latest announcement concerning GB for the Desire when writing a one paragraph summary for their support page?

    I think the latter option is far, far more likely.

  • http://Website Shadovv

    I don’t get it.
    Am I missing something here or is this all just BS.
    Leedroid ROM for the HTC Desire has been released with Gingerbread (and HTC Sense) on it for months now, and I have been running it for over a month without problems.
    http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038195

    If a lone developer can do it, without having to “strip” anything, why can’t HTC and Telstra do it?

  1. BenGuest 4 years ago

    They absolutely made the right decision and here’s why.
    The increased life of the phone and better user experience (subjective I know) will most likely translate to a repeat Android experience with the next purchase and continued business for those Telstra customers. The disenfranchised feeling customers get when feeling forced to upgrade due to a crippled device leads to dis-satisfaction and possible churn.
    I put Cyanogen mod on my wife’s Eris with stripped down GB (Ginger Short Bread?) and she thinks it’s a whole new phone with a familiar feel. The learning curve when switching from the Sense UI to the stock GB was a short one and an expensive upgrade was avoided.
    Score +1 for the flexibility of Android and another +1 for a service provider making a good call!

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  3. GldRush98Guest 4 years ago

    Another tick in the “why third part add ons shouldn’t be allowed” column.

  4. ColeGuest 4 years ago

    I agree with the decision to support the software update, but is it really necessary? I think Android’s flexibility (as pointed out in a previous comment) allows for user’s who really want the update (and can actually explain why they want it) to update the device themselves. Forcing an update to people who may not want to learn how to do things could lead to a bad experience, but then again, are those the people who really use the phones to the best of it’s ability anyway? I support Telstra, but their may be some backlash, which if unfortunate. Especially since the company’s trying to support it’s Android fan base.

  5. I think Telstra is doing the right thing here, but they may be going about it all wrong. For years HTC has been adding value to their Windows Mobile and Android phones by adding additional functionality that other handsets do not have out of the box. Many of you consider HTC Sense to be bloatware, but it adds a layer of refinement and a lot of extra functionality that is not included in stock Android.

    Telstra should give the Desire users the option to go stock Android or the stripped down version of HTC Sense. Android has always been about freedom, so let’s give users the freedom to choose which version they want running on their phones.

    • DagsGuest 4 years ago

      I think you’ll find that Testra are one of the most closed, greedy carriers anywhere in the world and this is just a mistake on behalf of whoever is preparing the updates for this page. Expect to see a stripped down version of Sense on the GB update for the Telstra Desire.

  6. zorbthegeekGuest 4 years ago

    What’s a Gingerbread update?
    –Signed G2x

  7. Kid englishGuest 4 years ago

    Am I the only person here that likes htc sense? It’s why I bought the desire in the first place – is go mad to update and lose it.

    • not at all. im also a lover of sense, ive always prefer sense over stock.

    • Hey, I’m a huge Sense fan. I honestly get annoyed when Android users compare HTC Sense with the other custom UI’s that are out there. HTC has done a lot for Android with HTC Sense and a lot of the features that are now standard in stock Android were first seen on HTC Sense.

    • astriaGuest 4 years ago

      Sense was good, back in the days of Sense 1.0 (Hero, Legend, Desire)…

      but Sense 2.0 and 3.0 are juz so bloated that u won’t use half of them…

      HTCSense.com? it breaks on most days… Lookout Mobile is far more stable…

      HTC Locations? why do i need that when i ve Google Maps? offline maps? I can pre-load the map on GMaps too…

  8. Stephen RCGuest 4 years ago

    I always find it surprising how many people try hard to get rid of HTC Sense. I personally really like it. I think it looks great, and works nicely.

    My question to Telstra is: Are you stripping out HTC Sense for the sole purpose of keeping your annoyingly pointless spam apps on the Desire, or stripping out both to provide a super slim and fast gingerbread experience?

    I will be so pissed off if the upgrade removes Sense and leaves all the annoying Telstra apps (or adds more!!). I don’t know anyone who actually uses them, and if both Sense + TelstraApps won’t fit on my phone, I’d rather keep the one I actually want to use.

  9. DarrenGuest 4 years ago

    Honestly, I think this is BS. What’s more likely:

    Telstra is going to hack a HTC ROM and release it as an official update for their phone thus confusing all their existing customers who are used to Sense,

    or someone has done a poor job of re-interpreting HTC’s latest announcement concerning GB for the Desire when writing a one paragraph summary for their support page?

    I think the latter option is far, far more likely.

  10. ShadovvGuest 4 years ago

    I don’t get it.
    Am I missing something here or is this all just BS.
    Leedroid ROM for the HTC Desire has been released with Gingerbread (and HTC Sense) on it for months now, and I have been running it for over a month without problems.
    http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038195

    If a lone developer can do it, without having to “strip” anything, why can’t HTC and Telstra do it?