Apr 16 AT 10:26 AM Taylor Wimberly 44 Comments

Meizu MX Quad-core hints at Galaxy S III specs?

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Today Meizu announced that their MX Quad-core phone was coming to Mainland China and Hong Kong in June. We normally don’t cover too many Asia-only phones, but Meizu is boasting that this device is the first smartphone in the world to use Samsung’s brand new quad-core Exynos 4412 processor.

We find this detail rather interesting because multiple rumors have suggested that Samsung would use the same quad-core Exynos 4412 in their Galaxy S III phone. What are the odds that Samsung would let Meizu use this quad-core Exynos, if it were to also be featured in Samsung’s upcoming flagship device?

Another option for Samsung, that is looking more likely by the day, is the inclusion of their latest dual-core Exynos 5250, based on the newer ARM Cortex-A15 CPU core and using the faster Mali-T604 GPU. We already covered this part in depth last month, where we discovered that Samsung has two versions available. There is a higher-clocked 2 GHz model for tablets, and a more power efficient 1.7 GHz model for smartphones.

In a previous rumor report we said the chances of Samsung going with the newer Exynos 5250 in the Galaxy S III were about 50%, but with all the recent news I’d bump that up to about 90%. Samsung started sampling the Exynos 5250 last year, showed off prototype devices at CES in January, and said it would hit volume production in Q2.

We also now know that Samsung’s 32nm High-K Metal Gate (HK/MG) low-power process technology, that the Exynos 5250 is made with, is mature since the refreshed iPad 2 and Apple TV 3 are already using it.

Samsung will finally unveil the next Galaxy phone in London only 17 days from now, so we won’t have to wait much longer. As things stand today, it appears Samsung will have the first smartphone in the world to use ARM’s Cortex-A15 CPU core, which is pretty damn cool if you are a processor nerd like me.

Very simply, this is a big deal because we only see a new mobile CPU architecture released every 2-3 years. ARM has described the next-generation A15 by saying, “It’s like taking a desktop and putting it in your pocket.”

The average consumer doesn’t care what processor is inside their phone, so it will be interesting to see what kinds of new experiences this raw horsepower can deliver.

Source: Meizu

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  • http://www.jaxidian.org/update/ jaxidian

    This news is getting badasser and badasser each day. Can’t wait for the true specs to be announced or leaked!! :-)

    • WlfHart

      So excited!!!

    • http://ArtisticAbode.com BetterWithRoot

      I know. I don’t know if I could handle any more badassery.

      • http://www.infotainmentempire.com pekosROB

        Suuuuuure you can!!!

        Can’t wait to see what the S3 can do!

  • http://www.ndroidgamers.com B2L

    We can only hope, if Samsung does go with the 5250, the GS3 will be a complete game changer.

    • spazby

      I just hope it gets released in US fairly soon…

    • booyootoo

      Yup, Looks like I will have to sell ny galaxy nexus. I thought I would probably use it more then a year… Man what was I wrong.

      • honourbound68

        Me too. Time to dust off my eBay acct

  • Armen

    but Htc one x is using Snapdragon s4, which was made by cortex a15

    • seabass978

      I thought that too?

      • eallan

        I don’t know, did you?

    • Robert

      Snapdragon S4 is not Cortex-A15. It’s a custom processor based on the ARMv7 ISA that incorporates some aspects of both A9 and A15.

  • Orion78

    I agree Taylor. This gives me more confidence that Samsung will go with the 5250!

  • triangle

    Great piece. Taylor, how would compare the 5250 with the S4 krait processors?

    • http://androidandme.com Taylor Wimberly

      ARM Cortex-A15 > Qualcomm Krait
      Samsung Exynos 5250 > Snapdragon S4

      • itguy426

        Funny how it goes from an article that Taylor wrote on a totally different phone. I know he did this to let all of us phone lovers know that we should see the bad ass chip in the new SIII. With that and an HD super amoled plus display and hopefully a lte chip that will be less power hungry. This will be my new phone in the fall. Samsung just keeps getting better every year.

      • Noel

        If you don’t mind, I’ll respectfully say that it depends. For someone that doesn’t play games and doesn’t watch HD videos on his phone, but prizes a good combo of power and batt consumption while out and about using productivity apps, an A15 based 28nm CPU may end up being better than a “pureblood” A15 on a 32nm CPU.

        I suspect this is going to be another Hummingbird vs Snapdragon S2.
        In terms of graphics benchmarks, I’m pretty sure Samsungs SoC would win simply because of a far superior GPU. On the other hand I have a nagging suspicion that Krait would have the edge in productivity.

        I am also interested in if Samsung will have a camera chip like HTC. IMHO there’s no point in having the best processor, but a lousy end implementation. The shutterhappy female population seems to love the photo functions on the One series, and that may tip that segment of the market over to Krait if Samsung doesn’t do anything to address it.

  • http://hcabrera.synthasite.com comandantecee

    I wouldn’t mind seeing these Meizu phones come out here, they’re pretty bad ass..

  • Bedwa

    Ooh….. SGS III ooh…… *copious drool* (Ala Homer Simpson)

    But seriously, this should be a beast. I’m looking forward to knowing all the specs.

  • TJungus

    I am actually more interested in seeing what kind of root options are available for this device, even if it is unlikely. I would like to see a stock ‘unlock’ option with the ability to turn off the touchwiz ui. I don’t like the idea of having to use Odin to unlock and flash my device. Here’s to hoping, even if it is a fool’s hope,

  • http://www.jaxidian.org/update/ jaxidian

    BTW, what’s up with the pastel-only colors? Don’t get me wrong. I wish more phones came with color options, but only pastel options? Eww!!

    • http://hcabrera.synthasite.com comandantecee

      The baby blue one looks pretty cool..

      • kzlife

        haha

        Yeah.. Why aren’t at least white and black there? The most general colours..
        I would like to see the phone in navy blue though =)

        • zsbI

          Stock cover is white, and yes it is a pretty badass phone :) wish there was a black cover though…

  • Nathan D.

    So if the s4 isn’t completely a15 and it gives tegra 3 a run for its money then a true a15 would surely be better then tegra 3.

    • inviolable

      Surely

  • Samar

    Somebody breakup the MEizu to look at internals yet !!

  • swazedahustla

    Well for all those US carriers (Sprint specifically)….i’ll just say know your history

    The Galaxy S was announced in Mar 2010 and Sprint got it’s variant in Sep. (6 Months)

    The Galaxy SII was announced in Feb 2011 and Sprint got it’s variant in Sep again. (7 Months)

    While we knew it was coming for a while, the Gnex was announced in Oct 2011 and will be released on Apr 22nd. (6 months)

  • inviolable

    What’s with the pastels? I’d feel like I need a matching tie for that phone.

  • http://www.jaxidian.org/update/ jaxidian

    Sign me up for 2 Easter Egg Editions of the Meizu! ;-)

  • kazahani

    Does this phone have… A TRACKBALL???!!!?!?!

  • MoSDeeb

    I’ve wanted to try Meizu for quite a while, but is too costly to import when I do find it online.

  • redraider133

    I am sure Samsung will use something to “steal the show” sort of like they did last year with their exynos dual core in the sgs2. They seem to want to put something out that is going to be top of the line for awhile and go directly at apple.

  • Dh33r4j

    Man, this time Apple fanboys will have their mouths superglued!
    Can’t wait for iPhone 5 to come out and fail terribly.

  • Richard Yarrell

    Oh well guess the JOKE is on HTC this time. The GALAXY S3 will be the best smartphone in 2012. Guess everyone was Samsunged again. And yes it will be on Verizon count on that.. http://www.droid-life.com/2012/04/16/additional-galaxy-siii-details-revealed-multiple-colors-a-1080p-display-and-a-quad-core-exynos-processor/

    • http://www.ndroidgamers.com B2L

      So Verizon is mentioned once and you automatically assume that means Verizon is getting it for a fact. Also, the only carrier in the US that didn’t pick up the GS2.

      What kind of magical crack are you on?

    • squiddy20

      Oh well, guess the JOKE’S on you for not only thinking HTC (or Apple, from your lower comment) has anything to do with the Meizu MX, but also for thinking anyone cares about what you think. And I can count on you being wrong as usual with all your claims that are based on nothing more than rumors and hearsay. Still waiting for that Galaxy Note/Note 2/Journal you “know” is coming. Still thinking about how your emphatic assertion that the Evo 3D would be “Sprint’s flagship device well into 2012″ isn’t panning out too well. What a dope.

  • Richard Yarrell
  • cb2000a

    If it comes with the 5250 it’s game over for Apple. It will be very very fast….

  • njren

    What are the odds that Samsung would let Meizu use this quad-core Exynos, if it were to also be featured in Samsung’s upcoming flagship device?

    The odds are pretty good, actually. Meizu is Samsung’s “halo” partner in China with Meizu relying exclusively on Samsung processors since 2006 when they were still only making (really popular) MP3 players. The Meizu M9 was the first (and only) phone from a Chinese manufacturer to use the Hummingbird processor and the current MX was the first (and only) with the Exynos 4210. The issue here is that Meizu, to now, is officially sold only in China and in Hong Kong. Despite Meizu’s popularity in China, it’s a pipsqueak next to the Samsung behemoth and thus poses zero threat to Samsung’s global business.

    As for the pastel colors, well, that appears to be Meizu’s new branding identity, although their storefronts use a rather vivid blue. The current MX has a white back cover, by the way. That will likely be the default option on the quad-core as well.

    For a teardown of the current MX, see here:

    http://forum.meizu.com/viewthread.php?tid=10392&extra=page%3D2

    The quad-core gets the updated processor, user memory, and an extra 100 mAh added to the battery…everything else looks to be the same.

    And no, it’s not a trackball; just an unusual “nipple” home button.

  • Anon

    Now which do you chose?

    Evo 4G LTE w/ MSM8960, 28mm dual-core similar to the A15

    or

    GS III w/ Exynos 5250, 32nm dual-core with the A15

    ?

  • Mix

    I have held on to my BB Bold longer than most people would to upgrade to an S III this year.

    I can not WAIT to upgrade.

  • zymo

    “What are the odds that Samsung would let Meizu use this quad-core Exynos, if it were to also be featured in Samsung’s upcoming flagship device?”
    The MX won’t be released worldwide, but just in China, whereas the SGS3 will be sold worldwide. Despite that, i suspect that Samsung will overclock the CPU up to 1,8Ghz, just like they did it with the 4210, so it would be the fastest quad core Smartphone available. And you also have to consider marketing. Quad core CPU sounds much nicer then dual core and will attract more buyers. The average Joe doesn’t know that a dual core A15 SoC is more powerful then an A9 quad core. I am 99,99% sure that we’ll see 1,8Ghz A9 quad core CPU inside the Galaxy S.

  1. This news is getting badasser and badasser each day. Can’t wait for the true specs to be announced or leaked!! :-)

  2. We can only hope, if Samsung does go with the 5250, the GS3 will be a complete game changer.

  3. ArmenGuest 3 years ago

    but Htc one x is using Snapdragon s4, which was made by cortex a15

    • seabass978Guest 3 years ago

      I thought that too?

    • RobertGuest 3 years ago

      Snapdragon S4 is not Cortex-A15. It’s a custom processor based on the ARMv7 ISA that incorporates some aspects of both A9 and A15.

  4. I agree Taylor. This gives me more confidence that Samsung will go with the 5250!

  5. Great piece. Taylor, how would compare the 5250 with the S4 krait processors?

    • ARM Cortex-A15 > Qualcomm Krait
      Samsung Exynos 5250 > Snapdragon S4

      • Funny how it goes from an article that Taylor wrote on a totally different phone. I know he did this to let all of us phone lovers know that we should see the bad ass chip in the new SIII. With that and an HD super amoled plus display and hopefully a lte chip that will be less power hungry. This will be my new phone in the fall. Samsung just keeps getting better every year.

      • NoelGuest 3 years ago

        If you don’t mind, I’ll respectfully say that it depends. For someone that doesn’t play games and doesn’t watch HD videos on his phone, but prizes a good combo of power and batt consumption while out and about using productivity apps, an A15 based 28nm CPU may end up being better than a “pureblood” A15 on a 32nm CPU.

        I suspect this is going to be another Hummingbird vs Snapdragon S2.
        In terms of graphics benchmarks, I’m pretty sure Samsungs SoC would win simply because of a far superior GPU. On the other hand I have a nagging suspicion that Krait would have the edge in productivity.

        I am also interested in if Samsung will have a camera chip like HTC. IMHO there’s no point in having the best processor, but a lousy end implementation. The shutterhappy female population seems to love the photo functions on the One series, and that may tip that segment of the market over to Krait if Samsung doesn’t do anything to address it.

  6. I wouldn’t mind seeing these Meizu phones come out here, they’re pretty bad ass..

  7. BedwaGuest 3 years ago

    Ooh….. SGS III ooh…… *copious drool* (Ala Homer Simpson)

    But seriously, this should be a beast. I’m looking forward to knowing all the specs.

  8. I am actually more interested in seeing what kind of root options are available for this device, even if it is unlikely. I would like to see a stock ‘unlock’ option with the ability to turn off the touchwiz ui. I don’t like the idea of having to use Odin to unlock and flash my device. Here’s to hoping, even if it is a fool’s hope,

  9. BTW, what’s up with the pastel-only colors? Don’t get me wrong. I wish more phones came with color options, but only pastel options? Eww!!

    • The baby blue one looks pretty cool..

      • haha

        Yeah.. Why aren’t at least white and black there? The most general colours..
        I would like to see the phone in navy blue though =)

        • zsbIGuest 3 years ago

          Stock cover is white, and yes it is a pretty badass phone :) wish there was a black cover though…

  10. So if the s4 isn’t completely a15 and it gives tegra 3 a run for its money then a true a15 would surely be better then tegra 3.

  11. Somebody breakup the MEizu to look at internals yet !!

  12. swazedahustlaGuest 3 years ago

    Well for all those US carriers (Sprint specifically)….i’ll just say know your history

    The Galaxy S was announced in Mar 2010 and Sprint got it’s variant in Sep. (6 Months)

    The Galaxy SII was announced in Feb 2011 and Sprint got it’s variant in Sep again. (7 Months)

    While we knew it was coming for a while, the Gnex was announced in Oct 2011 and will be released on Apr 22nd. (6 months)

  13. What’s with the pastels? I’d feel like I need a matching tie for that phone.

  14. Sign me up for 2 Easter Egg Editions of the Meizu! ;-)

  15. Does this phone have… A TRACKBALL???!!!?!?!

  16. I’ve wanted to try Meizu for quite a while, but is too costly to import when I do find it online.

  17. I am sure Samsung will use something to “steal the show” sort of like they did last year with their exynos dual core in the sgs2. They seem to want to put something out that is going to be top of the line for awhile and go directly at apple.

  18. Dh33r4jGuest 3 years ago

    Man, this time Apple fanboys will have their mouths superglued!
    Can’t wait for iPhone 5 to come out and fail terribly.

  19. Oh well guess the JOKE is on HTC this time. The GALAXY S3 will be the best smartphone in 2012. Guess everyone was Samsunged again. And yes it will be on Verizon count on that.. http://www.droid-life.com/2012/04/16/additional-galaxy-siii-details-revealed-multiple-colors-a-1080p-display-and-a-quad-core-exynos-processor/

    • So Verizon is mentioned once and you automatically assume that means Verizon is getting it for a fact. Also, the only carrier in the US that didn’t pick up the GS2.

      What kind of magical crack are you on?

    • squiddy20Guest 3 years ago

      Oh well, guess the JOKE’S on you for not only thinking HTC (or Apple, from your lower comment) has anything to do with the Meizu MX, but also for thinking anyone cares about what you think. And I can count on you being wrong as usual with all your claims that are based on nothing more than rumors and hearsay. Still waiting for that Galaxy Note/Note 2/Journal you “know” is coming. Still thinking about how your emphatic assertion that the Evo 3D would be “Sprint’s flagship device well into 2012″ isn’t panning out too well. What a dope.

  20. If it comes with the 5250 it’s game over for Apple. It will be very very fast….

  21. njrenGuest 3 years ago

    What are the odds that Samsung would let Meizu use this quad-core Exynos, if it were to also be featured in Samsung’s upcoming flagship device?

    The odds are pretty good, actually. Meizu is Samsung’s “halo” partner in China with Meizu relying exclusively on Samsung processors since 2006 when they were still only making (really popular) MP3 players. The Meizu M9 was the first (and only) phone from a Chinese manufacturer to use the Hummingbird processor and the current MX was the first (and only) with the Exynos 4210. The issue here is that Meizu, to now, is officially sold only in China and in Hong Kong. Despite Meizu’s popularity in China, it’s a pipsqueak next to the Samsung behemoth and thus poses zero threat to Samsung’s global business.

    As for the pastel colors, well, that appears to be Meizu’s new branding identity, although their storefronts use a rather vivid blue. The current MX has a white back cover, by the way. That will likely be the default option on the quad-core as well.

    For a teardown of the current MX, see here:

    http://forum.meizu.com/viewthread.php?tid=10392&extra=page%3D2

    The quad-core gets the updated processor, user memory, and an extra 100 mAh added to the battery…everything else looks to be the same.

    And no, it’s not a trackball; just an unusual “nipple” home button.

  22. AnonGuest 3 years ago

    Now which do you chose?

    Evo 4G LTE w/ MSM8960, 28mm dual-core similar to the A15

    or

    GS III w/ Exynos 5250, 32nm dual-core with the A15

    ?

  23. I have held on to my BB Bold longer than most people would to upgrade to an S III this year.

    I can not WAIT to upgrade.

  24. zymoGuest 3 years ago

    “What are the odds that Samsung would let Meizu use this quad-core Exynos, if it were to also be featured in Samsung’s upcoming flagship device?”
    The MX won’t be released worldwide, but just in China, whereas the SGS3 will be sold worldwide. Despite that, i suspect that Samsung will overclock the CPU up to 1,8Ghz, just like they did it with the 4210, so it would be the fastest quad core Smartphone available. And you also have to consider marketing. Quad core CPU sounds much nicer then dual core and will attract more buyers. The average Joe doesn’t know that a dual core A15 SoC is more powerful then an A9 quad core. I am 99,99% sure that we’ll see 1,8Ghz A9 quad core CPU inside the Galaxy S.