1080p Displays; overkill or just what you want?

Posted Dec 16, 2012 at 1:55 pm in Threads > Opinions

Just a thought for a bit of friendly discussion;

With the release of the HTC DNA and the slew of rumoured and leaked 1080p display devices coming next year; what are your thoughts on this aspect of a phone?

Is it overkill and 720p is enough?
Would you prefer they work more on battery capacity? etc
Or shall we be greedy and want it all in one device (an ultimate Nexus? ;-P)

I have yet to see a 1080p screen at 5″ as I’m in the UK and unfortunately nothing for me to see here, so for those of you that have is it a great improvement or unnesscary?

For those of you who haven’t what do you think? 1080p yay or nay?

For me a 1080p screen sounds gorgeous, but not sure it is needed (added cost to purchase price of device, extra battery drain when straining gpu? how do apps look on it?)

  • sandy105

    y not ,bring it on man .
    if reviews are to believed ,ppl love the droid dna’s screen ..

    • JonJJon

      Is it going to be released in UK/Europe at all? I’ve read mixed reports, I’d like to see one for real.

      • sandy105

        Yup the global version called only butterfly(butterfly j was Japan only)will release soon.
        I think it should come to Europe soon ..
        As I saw an article that production is ramped up.

        • SGB101

          The one X display is 720p and i cant see a single pixel on that screen.

          Whereas the sgs3 and larger note2 are 720p and the pixels can be seen.

          So if say the SAMOLED screens can defo do with 1080p, the LEDs less so.

          Also the IPS3 1080p displays offer better battery usage, but that would be better used on a 720p variant to actually extend battery life over today’s screens.

          All that being said, the reviews say the DNA has a smoking display!

          • JonJJon

            Good point/s, I think the resolution increases would be fine if the other tech behind it or more the other aspects of the phone bettered to counteract any negatives that come with it, such as battery drain and app optimisation/OS optimisation etc. Whether it’s just marketing ploys to “out do the iphone” or not, tech moves forward at an extreme rate now. I just hope the lagging behind areas catch up soon :)

  • WlfHart

    It’s a thing of beauty! Battery life can be a concern, but well worth it IMO. Especially if more people get on Samsung’s dual window mode bandwagon. That extra resolution will be great!

  • http://www.openintro.com OpenIntro

    There isn’t going to be much difference to the naked eye between 720p and 1080p on a screen that small. Not worth it in terms of battery life, imo.

    • keyl10

      Totally agree

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    • tanman888

      Agree. People tend to focus on the negatives. I tend to hear complaints from Android users about the battery life being too short.

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  • ldouglas64

    the clearer the better, especially for those of us with “old eyes” :-)

  • V6ser

    I’m expecting lots of things :D

    One of them are freakin’ HUGE batteries,

    The second depends on developers optimizing their Apps to a higher resolution(I hope that also an Android optimization for this type of screen, even tho Nexus 10…)

    For last i’m hoping more pixel density on screens(HTC Butterfly), 1080p deserves it ;)

    • V6ser

      Woops “I hope that also an Android optimization for this type of screen” is actually “I also hope an Android optimization for this type of screen” lol

  • keyl10

    Forget 1080p for now. It just doesn’t seem worth it to have a screen that you perceive to be marginally better if it kills your battery.

  • khaidottk

    I can see that’s the natural progression of things. Dual core to quad core, qHD, to 720p, to 1080p. I don’t really see where smartphone displays will go from there though resolution wise. I can’t imagine a 4k display in a phone anytime soon.

    Which is a good thing, I’d rather see screens getting brighter, thinner, and calibrated now than higher resolution.

  • rvetsch

    I think 720p is enough for most people. 1080p isn’t a huge improvement in picture quality.
    I’d like a good 720p display with great battery life, at least 2x more than today’s flagships.

  • DrFaust

    I hope phone resolutions top out at 1080p, anything beyond that for such small screens is a waste of processing power and battery life. Even 720p will look great on any phone so long as its a decent quality screen.

  • dbcher

    for the size of a phone 1080 may be a bit overkill, but if they can Kerri battery life reasonable….I am willing to give it a go

  • bitbank

    1080p for 5″ or smaller seems like a reasonable place to stop. The only purpose of going higher would be if you have a magnifying lens in front of it to simulate a larger display.

  • thymeless

    I like HD displays for these devices a lot. Something like the Galaxy Note 2 with a full HD display, uSD card slot, HDMI out, and generous RAM would be about the perfect phone device. Sizable display, stream content, good portable gamer, big enough to read on comfortably. Just about perfect.

    • SGB101

      Give it 6 months, u just described the note ;o)

    • V6ser

      Hm… Someone missed out a great quallity(Samsung lol) processor.

  • TheVoodoo

    I welcome higher resolutions particularly as we’re progressing towards larger screen, with Sony and others apparently set to release 6″ phones next year.

    However, battery life is equally as important to me. So such improvements should always be optimized to have the least impact on battery life.

    • BroMonty

      I’m not sure a 6″ phone could ever be viable, unless we’re going for a taller aspect ratio. 7″ tablets are far too big to be used as a phone, and I don’t imagine going down a single inch would help that much. I’m not going to say they will fail (because of the success of the Galaxy Notes), but I don’t see them becoming mainstream.

      • TheVoodoo

        I think they might follow the Nexus 4 model by widening the size in portrait mode. That will allow for shorter 6″ displays, as well as better textual content browsing experience.

        I really like the width at which I can browse websites on Nexus 4

    • BroMonty

      Regardless, I see 720p becoming the absolute minimum for any size phone in the future, with 1080p mainly on 5″+ phones and 7″ tablets. The Nexus 10′s resolution will most likely become standard for its size. Batteries can only be pushed so far.

  • dino13

    What would be the benefit of an 1080p display? If they creat such a display without worsening the batterylife I wouldn’t have anything against it. Progress is hapenning in every area, but at some point we do have to ask ourself if this process is a gain or just for marketing purposes.

    • TheVoodoo

      You touch on an interesting point: marketing.

      Sadly but truly, that is actually an equally important reason to implement certain features regardless of practicality.

      That is due to the fact that competitors, particularly Apple, often take advantage of trivial but flashy features such as Retina, or Panorama to falsely set their products apart. I say falsely, as those features either don’t set their products apart and are simply not advertised by their competitors even though they exist in their devices as well, or just not important enough.

      In conclusion, I believe Android sadly will need gimmicks that attract a certain very large audience group to it. I can’t tell you how many people have used Apple being the first to offer panorama in the stock camera, as an argument for Apple being innovative.

      • tanman888

        Yeah it is often the case with Apple. They are able to market and pronounce “cool features” that are likely to exist in other phones but for some reason, the general public associate it back as an iPhone exclusive.

        At one stage, I was having Android owner friends saying “how come Apple has better Maps than Google maps in an Galaxy S2/S3″.

        The features are there but the wider audience just don’t know about it.

        • TheVoodoo

          Wow, that is really funny, and of course sad.

  • Sambomojo

    For me 720p on a phone sized screen (4-5″) is just fine. 1080p+ on a tablet, yeah.. Bring it. that being said, I’m sure after a bit 1080p on phones will be common place and the issues with battery, heat etc will be worked out. Until then, i’m fine to stick with galaxy Nexus, one x, and gs3 etc.

  • rond

    I haven’t seen the DNA screen but I think the 720 on the HOX is pretty good. Not sure I would pay much extra to get 1080.

  • Stig03

    Give me 1080p

  • Ezy03

    as long as its under 5 inches for a phone!

  • sonicdeathmunky

    As long as it doesn’t affect battery life, bring on the pixels! If Apple is going to try and use their “Retina” displays for marketing, then Android going bigger is only going to give them less ammunition!

  • TheStig

    id love it!!

  • NamelessTed

    I get that people want 1080p. It definitely looks better than 720p even on a smaller screen. However, I don’t think now is the time for 1080p on mainstream phones. These crazy devices like the Note that have 5″+ screens totally makes sense. People buying these huge phones are buying it primarily for the screen real estate, and a higher resolution makes that look way better.

    However, for anything under 5″ I don’t think it makes sense right now. Battery life is the absolute biggest thing on a table that needs to be improved across the board. Yeah, we have the MAXX but that is just one phone vs hundreds, and even the battery on that is less than what phones need to be at.

    Eventually we are going to get back to the point where you can have a phone and not have to charge it for 3 or 4 days even after a decent amount of usage. I think now is the time for the battery push to happen, phones right now are fast as balls. Obviously, they will continue to get way faster but they are at a point where current software runs without issue and is “good enough”. Once we get those batteries up I think it would be great to see a slew of 1080p screens in the 4-5″ range, which will be even cheap to manufacture by that point.

  • klcow92

    In my opinion, I feel 1080p screens may truly be overkill, I still remember when full hd first came out on TV’s, there were like recommended distances to sit from a TV to truly experience HD, the smaller the screen, the closer you had to sit to experience it. Having a 1080p screen on a 5′ phone? If the distance principle is actually true, you would most probably have to squish your eyeball 1cm from the screen to experience HD…..I guess what manufacturers could do instead is to increase the pixel density to improve quality, like they did on the iphones

  • TheStig

    just want 1080p

  • kelltrash14

    I think 1080p looks great and is overkill for now. Any improvement in quality is not worth the current loss of performance. Give the SoC makers another generation and it won’t be as much of a sacrifice to run that kind of resolution.

  • OutofPlace

    Seems like complete overkill to me. It’s hard to even distinguish on a 50″ TV.

  • Charlong666

    In my opinion, 1080p should be left for phones over 5″ (Is that inches? Sorry, Canadian here haha.) and tablets under 8″. With 720p used for anything under 5″. And the Nexus 10 resolution used on tablets bigger than 8″.

  • sonicdeathmunky

    I don’t use my phone to watch videos, so I don’t feel the need to have such a high resolution on such a small screen. I’d much prefer to have a screen that has the lowest impact on battery life possible, and leave the high resolution awesomeness to my tablet.

  • KingCrow02

    I think its a bit over kill. I rather have a longer life battery

  • jaysond

    I think tablets could use the better res but phones come on there so small who cares,and who watches movies on there phone?

    • yankeesusa

      I don’t watch movies but I watch tv shows. With the screen on my note 2 it is definitely not bad to that. i couldn’t do it on my evo3d but the note 2 is perfect for tv shows or mini clips, especially with the surround sound features you can use with headphones.

  • Fiasko

    TheStig if you are going to post on every threat at least upvote me on your way!

  • http://muddypa.ws/blog nportelli

    1080p is fine, 5″ is the deal breaker. My new phone is 4.7 and that is about too big for my sausages called fingers.

  • BrotherBloat

    If they can improve battery technology and screen power consumption to actually keep a 1080p beast running for more than the mere hours we get now, I’m all up for that! :)

  • gmaninvan

    I take kind of a why not view of it. If they need it as a selling point, I am not going to argue but I really think it is unnecessary. It is almost indiscernible to see the difference. I would say even with TV’s, unless you are buying 40″ and up, 1080p is a waste of money.

  • yankeesusa

    If it doesn’t raise the price of the phone dramatically or lower the efficiency of the battery then I’m all for it. I myself love the screen on my note 2 and its not a 1080p screen, so if things can get better than that for the same or better battery life then I’m all in.

  • Shazam

    No ‘or’ – yes it is overkill, AND it is just what I need. : )

  • Sam

    See the New Xperia…
    The S4 is the best…

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  • jamal adam

    It looks to be that 1080p screens on smartphones will be the standard for 2013 and as a result I don’t think it will be an overkill. Since prices will likely stay the same for flagships, it makes sense to have 1080p screens and be able to compete with one another.

  • Jorge Eslava

    My main concern is power consumption. I’d have to actually use one of those 1080p 5″ screens for a few days before passing jusgement at this point.

  • jonstle

    I agree with those who are more concerned with battery life over screen performance. I personally think that in a 5 inch device you really cannot see the difference between a 720 screen and a 1080p screen at common viewing distances. What makes the difference in clarity is more likely the contrast ratio, color accuracy, and glare reduction of the screen.

  • pliu.2014

    How much Resolution do you need. Its not like you need the phone for video or movie editing. Unless you are a professional. It only matters if you step back from the 54 in. tv not a 5 in. phone. I can see a tablet having that appeal though.