King of Processors

Posted Jan 08, 2013 at 3:24 am in Threads > Opinions

Today at CES, Qualcomm announced it’s new generation of processors and along with it dropped their previous naming categories of S1, S2, S3, S4. The introduced their new Snapdragon 800, 600, 400, and 200 processors with the 800 and 600 being their high end.

Yesterday, nVIDIA announced their new Tegra 4 processor which they claim is the fastest in the world with it’s quad cores + 1 and 72 GPU cores, etc. One big draw back is that it is has no LTE built in which will lead to many problems and disinterest from carriers and OEM’s, who want LTE to be on their high-end smartphones and even tablets. Having the LTE through an optional chipset is gonna hurt them until they make it built in.

Intel also announced some new processors codenamed Bay Trail, the Atom Z2760, which has a quad core processor and is a 22nm chip. They also announced a lower end processor in the Atom Z2420 for emerging markets.

I feel that Qualcomm just put its foot on the gas and looks to have taken all of Tegra 4′s momentum in one fellow swoop because from the specs and looks of things the Qualcomm 800 is the best especially, with its new quad core Krait 400 CPU, Adreno 330 GPU, a faster LTE radio, and 802.11ac.

What are your thoughts on the new processors that were announced? What devices or OEM’s would you like to see using which processor for their high end smartphones and tablets?

  • redraider133

    Tegra is usually the first out the door but it doesn’t live up to expectations. Qualcomm has really stepped it up lately and makes some great processors which again this year I’m sure will be in most devices again. I can’t wait to see the new exynos Samsung announces whenever they do because those are usually top notch as well. Better for the consumers.

    • SGB101

      The tegra3, is still the best gaming chip out. The extra effects in there games are brilliant.

      Down side is heat, which = bad battery life.

      With the T4 being so much more powerful, if they run it to match or slightly better the T3, battery life should improve greatly.

      Sadly they will go all out for power, which TBH we don’t need more power, we need longer battery life. But alas power sells better.

      • gmaninvan

        Ya, but here is the thing. Have you ever looked at the power usage on your phone or tablet? The processor is irrelevant in comparison to the screen. I couldn’t give a crap if they improve the efficiency of it as long as the screens continue to gobble up power. With bigger phones these days it is even worse.

        They need to figure out a way to make these screens more power efficient. A 30% improvement on the screen usage could mean an extra half day on a smartphone.

      • LucenNox

        Sure, it’s best in gaming, but only because of all the optimizations and custom code. If any of the other chip makers got all the game makers to stop using custom code that only works on tegra, then the other chips would be just as or better for games.

        What? It could happen someday.NANANA I CAN”T HEAR YOU STOP CRUSHING MY DREAMS!

    • jamal adam

      The only thing I see the Tegra 4 beating the competition on is graphics. Since NVIDIA used to be mainly a graphics company it makes sense. I feel that Qualcomm has managed to find a good balance in terms of processor power and battery life. But I still think that is one area that can be improved more for all. I definitely can’t wait to see what Samsung has in store with its top of the line quad core processors.

  • Teebor

    They have had a lot of difficulty getting LTE in to the nvidia chipset so I guess this is their stab at trying to support it but making a compromise as well.

    Its a shame as I’ve liked the tegra chipset, it being unbrickable has saved my ass a few times thats for sure.

  • redraider133
    • Teebor

      [quote]4G LTE is seen in the slide, but unfortunately it still isn’t integrated into the chipset, meaning an additional chip is required that will potentially use more battery than the integrated modem in Qualcomm’s chipsets.

      [/quote]

      http://www.neowin.net/news/nvidia-announces-the-tegra-4-chipset

      Its an additional add on chip, its not part integrated like Qualcom etc

      • jamal adam

        I wonder how much that impacts battery life, the LTE being on a separate chip instead of built into the SoC.

  • gmaninvan

    I think the Qualcom will beat it in CPU performance but the Tegra 4, with its 72 core GPU, could give beat it in graphical performance. Hard to speculate until the numbers are out.

    • Bpear96

      Qualcomms s4 chips, use there custom krait architecture, which is not really Cortex a15. Stock Cortex A15 (in tegra 4) is slightly better performance compared to a Snapdragon s4 at same clock speeds.

      Qualcomm tweaked krait to be more focused on battery life vs performance.

      So unless the S4 is at a significantly higher clock rate, then the Cortex A15 should out perform it in that regard. But there are still other factors that can push one over the other.

      • gmaninvan

        Interesting. Didn’t know that. I guess we will have to wait until the numbers are out.

  • sandy105

    if you look back at cortex a9,i could say on the cpu front exynos will be the fastest.
    on the gpu front it could either be tegra 4 or the exynos 5-series quad core with mali 6XX

  • redraider133
    • jamal adam

      I was just checking it out. Having a 4 core ARM Cortex A15 and another 4 core Cortex A7, it looks like Samsung has just upped everyone. It should be a very interesting 2013 for mobile processors. I would assume that this will be in the Galaxy S 4 and Note 3.

      • redraider133

        I can’t wait to see what samsung does with this and how well it performs since they seem to always be some of the top performers in the processor space.

        • jamal adam

          I also wonder if they are going to release it to other OEM’s or keep it in house. Things are heating up. More choices for consumers is always welcome and it should be interesting to see whether Qualcomm can keep its momentum going from a wonderfully successful 2012 to this year and beyond or whether Samsung or nVIDIA might take its throne.

          • redraider133

            I could see them keeping it all in house and using their exynos in all of their devices since they are no longer supplying for apple. That could really help all of their phones, even if they were getting older exynos chips, they still perform pretty well and that would keep them from having to outsource for the processor in their phones like they did with some of their models with the qualcomm processor last year.

          • redraider133

            Looks like they want to sell it to others, maybe try and make some cash that they are losing from apple pulling out. It’s could also benefit other manufacturers being ale to use Samsung chips. http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-chip-business-china-146323/

          • jamal adam

            This is good for us customers and for Samsung too. More Exynos on other smartphones and more profit for Samsung, a win-win situation.

    • jamal adam

      It would makes sense to have it all in house and this would provide them with the ability to make their processors specifically for their smartphones thus leading to better performance, efficiency, battery life, etc.