Aug 25 AT 10:51 PM Taylor Wimberly 37 Comments

The T-Mobile G2 just got a little bit faster, MSM7230 CPU confirmed

A couple of weeks ago I was the first to speculate the T-Mobile G2 would contain Qualcomm’s new MSM7230 CPU, but then several leaks kept suggesting it would be a regular old Snapdragon. Thanks to the G2 software dump we can now confirm the G2 will ship with the newer 1 GHz MSM7230.

So what exactly does the MSM7230 have to offer? We initially labeled it as a budget-Snapdragon since Qualcomm’s press release said it was destined for “mainstream smartphones”, but now it looks like it will offer about the same performance as Samsung’s Hummingbird chip or TI’s OMAP3630.

Based on all the info we can gather the MSM7230 is a 45nm system-on-chip which contains a similar Scorpion CPU as the previous Snapdragon (QSD8x50) matched with an Adreno 205 GPU. The new Adreno 205 offers about 4x the graphics performance of the previous Snapdragon (Adreno 200), which is around the equivalent of a PowerVR SGX535. Support for HSPA+ 14.4 Mbps and HDMI out are other notable features.

The Adreno 205 GPU is also believed to be in the dual-core Qualcomm QSD8672, which first appeared in the HTC Glacier benchmarks that everyone went crazy over. It should offer plenty of power to run all the Gameloft HD titles, but we still expect the GPU inside Samsung’s Hummingbird is a tad faster.

So while the T-Mobile G2 might not break any benchmark records, it should still offer similar performance to the latest Android phones from Motorola and Samsung. When you consider it will be running stock Android 2.2 and support T-Mobile’s HSPA+ network, that might make it the most desired phone when it launches next month (at least until dual-core chips ship).

For an idea of what kind of performance to expect, check out the following video of some early Qualcomm MSM7x30 dev units.

Via: Cyanogen

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  • http://Website dans

    Nice catch.

    • http://Website nano

      If this one will have a front-facing camera, then why not? G2 New Impressions

  • http://Website 2C

    *Waits to hear from all the nay sayers* All but confirms that I’ll be upgrading from my Nexus One to this.

    • http://Website Usman

      How much do you want for your N1, and is it a T-mobile version? ;)

    • http://Website Spencer

      Why??? I would highly prefer my Nexus over the G2!!!

    • http://Website Deon

      I’m going to be selling my nexus one to pickup a G2 as well. Until then it didn’t seem worth ‘upgrading’, I mean the Samsung was nice and the better GPU was ok but I’d miss the directional pad on the front and the LED flash (which I often use as a flashlight). This new G2 seems to have everything, including a keyboard (a feature I really wanted) I’m looking for with the exception of a front-facing camera but I’ll be able to live without it. I’m not a huge fan of T-Mobile’s data network right now, on average AT&T worked much better for me, but T-Mobiles prices were cheaper and it seems like they’re actively upgrading and enhancing their data network so it’s only a matter of time. With HSPA+ coming to my area within a few months I may change my opinions on T-Mobiles data side. Selling my N1 for the G2, nice.

  • http://Website Green Robot

    It’s a shame Chris Chavez abandoned all his fans by flaking to Sprint. I would have enjoyed watching him continuing his informative videos with the G2. His G1 videos are a must-watch for any Android enthusiast.

    T-Mobile FTW!!!

  • Dr.Jeckyl

    Hmm… Get this or wait to see what Project Emerald has in store? Decisions decisions….


    on topic: This + the very good chance it will have vanilla Android = AWESOME SAUCE!

  • http://Website Wallingsworth

    Chris Chavez is a dbag.

    • http://Website thebearingedge

      lol… right? no, i guess not

  • HardNoks

    I think I just actually jumped for joy

  • http://Website Alex

    I thought the MSM7X30 was at 800mhz while the MSM8X55 was clocked at 1ghz? Unless they over clocked it to 1ghz, then something isn’t right.

  • http://Website Bob

    But will it be supported by the flash player. Looks like it has the juice. Got my card ready for this baby.

  • http://Website Eamon

    Whats with all the negative clicks on every pro G2 or T-mobile comment here. Just because T-mobile stepped it up for the competition you guys get jealous? T-Mobile, G2 and HSPA+ FTW!

  • http://Website deeb215

    I’m happy T-mobile is giving their customers something worth while. I mean it’s about time. I just hope for your sake it ships with Gingerbread. T-mobile hasn’t been updating any devices recently. By the way, the negative clicks are coming from people who probably don’t like how people are hating on Chris. Some people can be inconsiderate douchebags. Make your own videos, Chris owes you nothing.

    • http://Website mikeybot

      It’s shipping with vanilla Froyo(2.2) Gingerbread, if memory serves, won’t be appearing on phones til mid next year.

    • http://Website Green Robot

      For the record, my post wasn’t directed towards hating on Chris. I’m a big fan of his. It was just a disappointment we didn’t see his videos continue on with the G2 which would seem like a natural progression than the EVO.

      Some other douches posted their comments and took it to another level, however. Those posts were lowly rated :)

      But Chris Chavez is the man…!

      • http://Website Geah

        How a gay guy be “The Man”?

        • http://Website lowestA4

          I know right? More like “The mam”.

  • http://Website yup

    Its shipping with vanilla android with sense widgets no ui just the widgets

    • http://Website logic

      uh? and how is that?

  • http://Website Cranky Clown

    I’m concerned about the apparent (so far) lack of a front-facing cam. Will the G2 thrive without one? If it doesn’t have one, I’ll opt for the Sprint Epic 4G on August 31.

    • http://Website mikeybot

      Why is a front facing cam such a big dealbreaker for everyone. I seriously don’t get it.

      • http://Website ihatefanboys

        its a dealbreaker because they know SOOOOOOOOOO many people that they just HAVE to video chat with…i guarantee all the idiots saying a FFC is a dealbreaker, when they get a phone that has one they will prob use it for a week or a month then never use it again. its a silly prerequisite and if he passes on this awesome piece of tech just for a FFC thats his prob…i may even pre-order this…..would u believe the cam window on my G1 battery cover was cracked this morning, ive dropped it dozens of times and now, only towards the end when im gonna get a G2 next month does it break …..coincidence ?? lol

        • http://Website watbetch

          I hope your “friends” have QIK because Fring removed Skype support.

    • http://Website Deon

      I was very close to selling my N1 to get the Epic 4G, that phone is near perfect. Keyboard, LED Flash, Front-Facing-Camera, etc. and the hummingbird CPU was nice. It would have been a good all-around-upgrade from the N1. But I couldn’t bring myself to spend more money to be on Sprint’s network and I also didn’t like the mandatory $10 charge on top of the $30 internet charge, I’m not in a 4G area so why make it mandatory. In the end I decided to wait for a GSM version of the Epic 4G and this G2 comes very close, close enough for me to finally ditch my N1 (Which I love, but am running out of storage space and I hate typing on the screen, I prefer the tactile feedback of a real keyboard).

  • http://Website k0zmic

    Hope the specs in this are the same as the Desire Z. We need something high end with a keyboard in the UK, since there’s no Droid 2 or Epic 4G here.

  • http://Website Drew

    It’s a start I guess, and I hate to be a nay-Sayer, but I’m just not a fan of keyboards. I really hope another phone comes out of Tmo with stock android.. because that keyboard kills it for me. I’ve been waiting and waiting to upgrade from my Behold II I really hope the wait is going to come to an end soon.. PLEASE TMO!!

  • http://Website CTown

    Great news! So, the G2 has everything but the NOT necessary Webcam. By the way, does anyone know if it has multitouch or is the screen just as multitouch-less as the Nexus One? Thanks in advance!

    • http://Website Jared

      The Nexus One supports multitouch.

  • http://Website Dee

    honestly i used to really want a FFC but now i just want something worth upgrading my G1 for and i think the G2 might be in line. keyboard or not doesnt matter. all i want is support, speed, and app storage space.
    but i really think that the G2 that we are seeing might not be the one coming for TMO. they keep tooting it with sense but TMO doesnt have anything sense related on their network….sooooooo

    • http://Website ihatefanboys

      is this the first G2 article u have read ? better yet read the comments here….its stock 2.2, no sense UI, just sense widgets. the phone pictured here is just the pic theyve had online for a few months…the G2 getting released is the one in the pics showcasing the hinged slide, and even thats not 100% confirmed, they may yet tweak it…its definitely a groundbreaking phone in many ways….anyone would be a fool not to upgrade their G1 to this.

  • http://Website websurf90

    I just want stock 2.2. Perfect, raw, Android like the G1. Not even a dab of Sense. That’ll just slow down updates.

    • http://Website Deon

      Even if it did run SenseUI which I actually like a lot, I’d give it a week, two tops, before the hax0r community releases a stock ROM for it. I just hope the G2 becomes very very popular, like the G1 or the Motorola Droid, because the more popular the phone is the more active the community will be in ‘enhancing’ it.

  • http://Website KC

    All it needs is a front facing camera……WHY IS THERE NO FRONT FACING CAMERA?

    • http://Website Elarella

      What’s the deal with a front facing camera? That is an old feature that phones has had for years. I had a BenQ Siemens EF81 that had a camera designed for both video chat and taking regular pics. If you’ve seen the phone, then you would have known that that design in itself was innovation. Give a kid a hand me down toy and they’ll run away with it.

  • http://Website Greg

    Does anyone know what APNs will be affected by HSPA+? I’m guessing it will only be but I’m hoping it will trickle down to the older APNS, such as