Feb 02 AT 9:22 PM Taylor Wimberly 125 Comments

Rumor: Dual-core HTC Pyramid superphone coming to T-Mobile by May

Let me be the first to admit that not everything in my last rumor report came true, but it was pretty darn close. Google unveiled their web-based Android Market and we heard that the music store is finished, but legal wrangling is still holding it up. Today we received another hot tip on HTC’s next big Android phone and I’ve confirmed it with several sources so check out the details after the jump.

The Rumor

HTC’s first dual-core Android smartphone is codenamed Pyramid. It features a dual-core 1.2 GHz Snapdragon processor (MSM8260), 4.3 inch qHD display, and support for HSPA+ networks. T-Mobile has picked up the phone and their target release date is May 2011.

The Source

This tip came from another regular source who has provided accurate information about several Android announcements in the past. A new, separate source also corroborated the information. As with most people that hand over sensitive information, they wish to remain anonymous.

One Android Insider’s take on the rumor

Is this really a surprise to anyone? We have known for a long time that Qualcomm was working on a dual-core Snapdragon, but the exact timing has been uncertain.

Qualcomm demoed their dual-core MSM8x60 development platform during CES and hinted at an early Q2 availability, so a May 2011 product release is totally plausible.

We expect HTC will show off their new dual-core devices during Mobile World Congress later this month, but I doubt they will make any U.S. product announcements. Those are likely slated for CTIA in March, so again it makes sense that these devices should arrive on U.S. carriers by May.

T-Mobile and HTC have a very strong relationship, maybe the strongest out of all the U.S. carriers. T-Mobile worked with HTC on the G1, supported the Nexus One, and chose them to produce their myTouch line of phones.

Everyone has been screaming for a 4.3-inch Android phone on T-Mobile and their cries have finally been answered. It’s interesting to see that HTC is also going with a qHD display and I assume it has a 960×540 resolution since that is what Motorola is using. We don’t know who will provide the display for HTC, but they have a record of working with multiple companies so it could be anyone.

A quick look at Qualcomm’s Snapdragon page gives us an idea of what to expect from the dual-core 1.2 GHz Snapdragon MSM8260.

Features of the MSM8x60 include:

  • Scorpion asynchronous dual-CPU cores, up to 1.2GHz for faster response and processing
  • Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity
    • MSM8260 support for HSPA+ networks — up to 14 Mbps downloads and 5.6 Mbps uploads — as well as GSM, GPRSand EDGE
    • MSM8660 support for HSPA+ networks — up to 14.4 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps — as well as CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel A/B, GSM, GPRS and EDGE
  • Low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and performance
  • High-definition (1080p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second
    • Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, MPEG-2, H.264, H.263, VC-1, DivX, WMV-9, Sorenson Spark, VP6)
  • High-performance GPU — up to 88M triangles/sec and 532M 3D pixels/sec and dedicated 3D/2D acceleration engines for Open GLES 2.0 and Open VG 1.1 acceleration
  • High-resolution WXGA (1280×800) display support
  • 16-megapixel camera support
  • Built-in eighth-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes
  • Support for Wi-Fi and Bluetooth connectivity
  • Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode)
  • Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO, DVB-H and ISDB-T)
  • Support for Android, Brew Mobile Platform and Windows Phone

Not all of those features will make it into the HTC Pyramid, but you can bet that it will do 1080p video record and playback. We also know it will feature the Adreno 220 GPU, which should be very competitive with NVIDIA’s GeForce GPU.

Overall, I’m pretty pumped to see how this device plays out. Just because T-Mobile is picking up the Pyramid, that doesn’t mean they will have an exclusive. It is very likely that Pyramid is just HTC’s reference design for their first dual-core phone and it could make it multiple carriers. For all we know, the Pyramid could eventually become the EVO 2.

We would love to bring you some pictures of the Pyramid, but none of the recently leaked HTC phones match its description. Hopefully by posting this rumor report, it will motivate someone to dig out the blurrycam and send in a few shots…

Update: David of TmoNews has also heard from his sources that Pyramid is coming to T-Mobile. He mentions a late Q2 launch date, which is within the same window that I have heard.

Taylor is the founder of Android and Me. He resides in Dallas and carries the Samsung Galaxy S 4 and HTC One as his daily devices. Ask him a question on Twitter or Google+ and he is likely to respond. | Ethics statement

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  • Galen20K

    All I can say is….WOW!!!

    • http://yobif.com Yobif

      Eagerly waiting to purchase this mobile.. If it release….

  • http://Website Mike


    • http://Website Anonymous

      This is just the phone T-Mobile needs!
      The specs of this phone makes it more than a SmartPhone, but a SuperPhone!

      I will definitely be getting this phone if it is launched this summer.
      Well done HTC & T-Mobile!

      • http://Website Drew


  • http://Website Virtue

    I swear, if this comes out as part of the myTouch line I will never forgive T-Mobile for it. We need some Sense 2.0 love HTC!

    • http://Website archie

      No sense, vanilla Android only.

      • http://Website Tito!

        Yeah, Vanilla Android is best on an HTC.

        & Sadly, this could become their next phone in their myTouch line. I would be unsurprised.
        & in that case, there is nothing @T-Mobile can do that can dissapoint me.
        Being consistently exposed to it, you get used to it.

        PS. Here’s to wishing it doesn’t end up myTouch (:

      • http://Website AGx

        I wish it would be vanilla but I highly doubt it. Right now I’m a free agent and since we’re between the 1GHz craze and the era of Dual Cores, trying to decide on a phone that will lock me down for two years is hard, especially when I’m looking at my G1 every day.

        • http://Website zedklind

          im in the same boat buddy. for 2 months i bought phones of contract and returned them before the 30 days but u can only do it twice.. back to my g1 until this phone

    • http://Website Mr.Android

      Sense makes no sense and neither do you.
      Step one: open HTC Desire box and turn on phone
      Step two: root phone
      Step three: load Cyanogenmod
      Step four: say good bye to NONsense

      • http://hoosiercub.tumblr.com Tony

        Some people actually like Sense, why is it so hard for people to understand that, as far as Android reskins, it is the best.

        I myself am kinda sad about this, I realize that Verizon won’t be getting a Dual-Core HTC phone this year, now that the Thunderbolt is coming. I love the T’bolt, just would’ve liked to have seen a design refresh for this year. I’d jump ship to T-Mobile, but yet again, another pseudo-4G phone that wouldn’t even have standard 3G coverage in my area. COME ON T-MO!!! start expanding your 3G coverage.

        • DavidM

          I know, if you are stuck with a skin, might as well be a great one. As far as i know, only the N1, NS and G2 run stock android anyway

          • http://Website anne

            My original myTouch 3G also came with stock Android…

    • http://Website stondec

      CommentNo way! No freaking Sence UI. Only vanilla

  • http://www.youtube.com/emogamer Christopher Chavez

    EVO 2!!!! That was the first thing I thought when I read this article!!! I honestly don’t care who gets it first as long as it comes to Sprint! :D

    • http://Website UniqueNate

      You really want a successor to a phone you own to be something another carrier has? You want your successor to be better and it’s own phone. Evo is a brand, not a version of phones like the Galaxy S.

    • http://Website revs1227

      or G3! stick 2 sprint
      t mobiles where the real droids are
      this will be a great update next summer from my mt4g

      • http://hoosiercub.tumblr.com Tony

        They’re not ‘droids’ they’re Android devices, i’m gonna e-bitchslap the shit out of the next ‘tard that calls them droids.

        • http://DOUCHE Droid

          e-bitchslap? Really?! Your a douche…..I LOVE DROIDS. LONG LIVE THE DROID!! ;-)

        • http://Website Droidssssss

          HAHA what kind of fag says e-bitchslap…

  • TJ

    Might be sticking with T-mobile after all! Come on T-Mobile, don’t let US loyal customers down.

  • http://Website 4G or Not To 4G

    14mps max…u kidding me…just don’t understand, why will they make a top quality phone and not give it their top quality network…will pass on this one

    • http://Website DroidCLH

      What the hell are you downlaoding on your phone that needs speeds faster than 14 Megabits per second??

      • http://Website 4G or Not To 4G

        One thing to keep in mind. Today a single core phone is fine but tomorrow the OS and apps will work much better with dual core, soon quad core. This goes the same for the up and download speeds. I am loving the speeds that my G2 can obtain today but how long will it be before these speeds are are no longer providing the best user experience as developers want to push more media rich content to the phones. This also doesn’t help T-Mobile. What good is having a network that is super fast but no phones that can support it, it does not help them in the cell phone wars, T-Mobile’s 21Mbps network will probably push ACTUAL speeds faster then Verizon’s LTE network, but only if it has the phones to support it, if not Verizon will eat them alive in the advertising game, as Verizon is a little more savvy in the art of Ad Wars…lastly if I pay high end dollars for a device…I expect it to be high end device:-)

        • http://Website UMA Fan

          Let’s say off of that 14mbps radio you average about a consistent 10mbps in download speeds off of T-Mobile’s 42mbps connection.


          When you put it into the perspective that an average of real-world 10mbps is more than what most people get on their home wired connections, someone buying this phone isn’t going to be at a technical disadvantage purchasing this phone ANY TIME in the next two years at least…. if that.

          • SGB101

            My home broadband is only 6mbps, and that is fine for streaming HD so a steady 10 on my phone would be a waste.

            Plus with data caps it doesn’t matter the speed of the connection, I’d rather have a bigger/no cap.

          • http://Website 4G or Not To 4G

            Sounds good, but I just checked my home network and on my G2 using wifi, I am getting 20 Mbps vice the 10 Mbps you say most people get at home. You folks can stay behind if you want but as I said before, I don’t mind paying for the best, so when I pay for the best, I expect the best

            I also still stay T-Mobile leaves itself open to attack by Verizon, who is already claiming T-Mobile’s network can only do 3 Mbps. You and I know different but the average yahoo, believes in what ever advertising they hear. So t-Mobile needs to step up and build a 21 Mbps network and put the phones with it, so they can go on the offense vice the defense.

    • http://Website Mark

      If 14.4 mbps download speeds are the max for this processor, I’m not buying it, because T-mobile’s network currently supports about 21 mbps. Plus, this summer, T-mobile is upgrading the speeds to 42 mbps.

      To the other commenter that tried claiming 14.4 is good enough: if I’m going to pay for a high end phone, I want a high end phone. Even the Vibrant 4G is going to have faster download speeds than this processor.

      The 21 and 42 mbps speeds will make a huge difference when I’m downloading very high games, which are around 250 mb, and when I’m downloading Cyanogen roms.

      • http://adomanico01.blogspot.com/ Anthony Domanico

        a huge difference being the difference between 30 and 45 seconds? seriously? we’re griping about SECONDS here. It’s not like we’re comparing broadband to dial-up.

      • http://Website 4G or Not To 4G

        ??? curious as to why Mark’s comment is considered low content. We are strong users of Android. I myself own the G1/G2/N1/Vibrant, so just because myself and Mark believe that the phone should be better, that should be no reason to hide our opinion. In neither my first response nor Mark’s response was there anything offensive we just did not agree with everybody else. I thought we were grown up enough here to have different opinions but I guess not…Now I know I am going to be banded when I say ” this is something I would expect from an Apple blog, not an Android one”.

  • http://Website Frongy

    if it comes to sprint and has stock android i might just have to pick it up

    • http://Website wish in one hand and shit in the other

      Keep dreaming! The closest thing you will get to vanilla android on sprint is Sprint ID. Tmo is the only carrier that releases stock android phones (not counting the OG droid, but verizon isn’t doing that anymore). This phone may not have vanilla on tmo, but at least they have a chance. Sprint does not. Either way it doesn’t matter because there will be all kinds of custom roms for this phone for whatever carriers pick it up.

      • http://Website pyh43drus

        As long as it’s not locked down, I don’t care *what* they put on it. Sprint bloated up the Evo, but once you root, it’s your device. CyanogenMod FTW.

  • http://Website 2C

    Two things on my wish list for this phone that already has some pretty good specs…Stock Gingerbread since no other T-Mobile phones ship with Sense give me at least close to stock ie like in the G2. And support for Qualcomm’s soundabout lossless technology…it’s ridiculous that this tech hasn’t appeared in any devices after being called a ces best of show in 08.

  • http://www.bewareofraj.com Raj

    Hey Taylor, having second thoughts about the atrix? :p

    If I’m honest I’d love to get another HTC phone to replace my Nexus One, but my contract is up this month and the atrix has the accessories that make it stand out.

    Oh well, still can’t wait!

  • http://Website Tito!

    Sad. That you guys posted this before David .
    He has been teasing this since last night. Shame. . Kudos androidandme! Bahah!

    Sounds excitinga
    But wait, how is this a superphone if its only theoretical speeds of 14.4?
    That’s not Super? To me, at least.

    • http://Website B

      Man what is the deal here? Some people have such delusional entitlement issues its inconceivable. You’re saying that despite everything else its capable of, the 14mbps on a mobile PHONE bring it out of support phone status? Unbelievable.

      • http://Website metafor

        Consumers always want more. That’s how the market is driven. If it weren’t for people constantly demanding more, we wouldn’t have dual-core cell phone processors today.

        That being said, 21mbps HSPA+ is not exactly a consistent speed boost like LTE would be. This is mainly due to how it achieves this speed. Encoding more levels onto an already high amplitude modulation requires a very very high signal-to-noise ratio. For the vast majority of time in real world situations, HSPA+ 21mbps will likely be functioning in 14mbps or even 7mbps mode.

  • GuniGuGu

    Is this based on cortex A8 or A9?

    • http://Website Wowww

      Is your Ford truck Toyota Camry based GuniGugu :)

  • http://Website Ichigo

    awesome! I’ll rock with my mytouch 4g until it is released.

  • http://Website aclin

    Oh well I guess I’ll give my G2 I just got for free to my daughter in may ;-)

  • http://Website Dstewstar

    Well played Tmo, where are all the haters. I thought Tmobile only made kiddie phones for budget minded people. Keep them coming Tmo.

    • http://adomanico01.blogspot.com/ Anthony Domanico

      And it only took them a year to get on board.

      • http://Website CTown

        T-Mobile US and UK always carry the best HTC phones: T-Mobile carried the Desire (as the Nexus One), the Desire HD (as the MyTouch 4G), which AT&T and Verizon are just about to release, and the Desire Z (as the G2). The differences is T-Mobile does not release the phones under the Desire brand or without HTC Sense.

      • Seamus

        Who released the G1? Verizon was still backing Blackberry and Sprint was banking on the Palm Pre when Tmo was pushing Android.

    • SGB101

      Tmo, was the first and has the best selection of Android in the UK.

      Shame as it has only the 3rd best coverage of the county out of the five major providers.

      Best phones average coverage.

      • http://adomanico01.blogspot.com/ Anthony Domanico

        We here stateside get average phones and spotty coverage from the 4th (of 4) carriers. :)

  • http://Website SheriffTaylor

    Anything to help me stay away from Samsung and the Vibrant!

    Please, please, please bring this out!!

    • http://Website jaythanc

      What’s wrong with samsungs galaxy s phones. Not having 2.2 yet?

      • http://Website AdamJ


        • http://Website Matthew

          Not only TouchWiz, but also not keeping up to their promises, i.e. Updates as you said. If your going to promise to update your line of devices, the millions of your customers expect it to be updated in the time you set for them. My advice, dont set a date when you would update so people dont get mad, or dont make false promises. I always steer clear from Samsung and their products. HTC FTW!

          • http://Website NBPTitans

            Step 1 – Root
            Step 2 – Load Team Whiskey Bionix-V ROM. (Froyo if you are a Noob.)
            Step 3 – Bask in the Glory that is Vibrant.

            I will never purchase another Samsung mobile device, but why bitch and moan when XDA saves the day.

            Very excited for the Pyramid or something along those lines.

            Would rather have an HTC device over the LG even though the 2X is getting very positive reviews.

          • http://Website Matthew

            I would rather have an HTC device then an LG. HTC isnt going to jump on the Nvdia bandwagon like everyone else is. They stick to the people they started with at the get-go. Qualcomm has yet to fail there phones, and they are not falling behind. HTC in my opinon has the best phones and UI out of them all. HTC started android. I will always stick with HTC and nothing else.

            Also you should have to root your device just to up to par with everyone elses phones. Also not everybody knows or wants to “risk” (if there is anything to risk at all) rooting their devices. We bitch because its bullshit. If your boss promised you you were going to get a huge raise in the upcoming month so expect it, would you be unhappy when you dont receive what you were promised? You can take that in different forms..

            Anyways HTC is the best.

          • http://Website NBPTitans

            I agree with you on what you are saying about Samsung. The Vibrant is a great piece of hardware, but with the GPS issues and the lack of updates Samsung screwed the pooch.

            On the other hand, I had the MT3G which was an HTC device and the updates on that were awful as well. HTC never made the statements that Samsung has, but getting updates on TMO phones has been frustrating at best. Especially when you see the Motorola devices getting updates on a regular basis for Verizon.

            So I rooted the MT3G and now my Vibrant and I can be a happy camper. It also allows me to not go insane that Samsung is releasing the Vibrant 4G. I would rather wait for a device like the Pyramid.

  • http://Website Mikey

    I really hope this has HTC Sense!
    Go T-Mobile!

    • http://Website Mikey

      Oh yeah It will probably have Espresso sense..I hope it won’t though.
      It may be part of the G series

  • http://Website UniqueNate

    Sounds really nice and I’m not even a T-mo customer.

    I personally wouldn’t want this to come to all carriers and it end up being an Evo 2. Coming to all carriers would be nice, but something on all carriers and it being a successor to something one of the carriers have wouldn’t be cool. Evo is exclusive and branded. Yea, HTC has made similar devices for other carriers but the fact there are a few differences that make the phone itself and it came to Sprint first is why I wasn’t bothered. If you are a customer, and if your carrier has something exclusive, and a line of phones of it, then you don’t want the other carriers to have that. Kills the excitement.

    I hope they introduce several dual cores and have different designs for them all. When it comes to the Evo 2, I want that to be from scratch and something completely new. A successor doesn’t need to be similar, it needs to be everything it was the first time around and some. How are you competing with a similar device? Just saying..

    Oh, and this must be the device you couldn’t speak on much from a tweet you said way back.

    • http://Website UniqueNate

      Really? I just read your tweet saying, “Oh and the Pyramid is not the device I was talking about last week that would make T-Mobile fans flip out… Stay tuned for that one…”

      Moving way to fast. I’m curious as to what not, and I promise this speed will come back to hunt Android. Still trying to update current phones and some of these upcoming phones aren’t even shipped with Gingerbread. The Nexus One doesn’t even have it yet…..

      I love Android but I mean..it’s missing some organization. It’ll make people mad, but they need to just cut certain devices off and start over with these dual cores and have this mess ready from the start. Google needs to make a meeting or something and work with them to have it natively ready to work with their custom roms or something, or shoot, a carrier needs to have a superphone line that is dedicated to stock android.

  • ayocuz

    How about a nexus two?

    • http://Website DLFB

      …until HTC buys the rights for “Nexus”, there won’t be a “Nexus 2″

  • krazytrixxxsta

    for the love of god tmo, dont fuck this up with your ugly mytouch design and your shitty version of sense. it be nice if they came out with a sense 2.0 or higher and a vanilla version of this phone or give you the option to turn it off and on.

  • http://Website B


  • http://Website Lucian Armasu

    High-performance GPU — up to 88M triangles/sec and 532M 3D pixels/sec and dedicated 3D/2D

    PowerVR SGX540 has 90M triangles/s. Not saying that numbers are everything, but that exactly has been the problem with Adreno in the past – giving out numbers that seemed way bigger than how well it actually worked in reality. Maybe Adreno 220 has finally caught up to its specs in performance. I wouldn’t expect anything but marginal improvement over Adreno 205, which was already pretty underwhelming in real use compared to SGX540.

    Also this chip should be on market about the same time Tegra 2 3D 1.2 ghz chip will be on the market as well – probably in Optimus 3D. LG seems to want to come out with Nvidia’s chips first now.

    • http://Website gregt

      Wikipedia has the PowerVR 540 at 20M Triangles/s and the upcoming 545 at 40M. The Tegra 2 GPU will be around 71M t/s.

      • http://Website Metafor

        Artificial specs like that really mean very little. For one, there’s no industry standard as to what counts as a “triangle”. Some call a vertex a triangle (takes 3 vertex to make a triangle) while others don’t. Imagination – the company that makes powervr, uses the 3 vertex = 1 triangle metric. Samsung markets 1 vertex = 1 triangle. That’s where the 90M comes from. There was a similar thig back in the days between nvidia and ati on the desktop side.

        To complicate things, most GPUs use what’s called z-culling. This is a method by which objects that would not be displayed on screen because another object was blocking it would be identified early and removed. Marketing, of course, prefers to count those discarded objects and the vertexes that they comprise of.

        To even further complicate things, triangle throughput rate is not the only factor in GPU performance. A lot of vertex shaders means nothing if the pixel shading pipeline can’t keep pace with it. Or the memory/cache can’t feed it. Or the thread allocation queue can’t provide enough instructions, etc etc etc.

        Basically, it’s pretty much good practice to ignore those numbers altogether. There used to be a time (back in the 90′s) when people obsessed over numbers on their desktop GPUs. They soon learned it was nowhere near an indication of how well the GPU could run games. Subsequently, nvidia and ati stopped advertising them so heavily.

      • http://Website james

        Well as far as gpus go the Sammy takes the cake at 133m tri’s a sec in its sammy galaxy 2 and that in itself is impressive. Wonder what a ps2 can produce or an Xbox maybe the same…..maybe a ps2/xbox emu? On a PHONE???!!! HAHA DROOL. But I want star craft!!!!!!

  • Leo


    This phone almost sounds promising. I think I’ll wait til September when it’s closer to the 4th quarter. By then we’ll see almost everything that all carriers have to offer. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to upgrade from my MT3G but to be honest I’m tired of getting hosed over as a T-Mobile customer. The pricing plans are WONDERFUL (especially if you’re in the unlimited loyalty plan like I am), but at the end of the day I’m willing to pay a bit more for “HIGH END” phones and services. The game plan to just stick with mid-level phones and a few (if that) high end phones is an idiotic move. Customers like me who have been with T-Mobile since their college days are loyal, but we’re also in a different financial bracket. 6 years is a long time but if T-Mobile is set on being #4 and even allow companies like AT&T (who “just” started paying attention to Android. Gee, wonder why?) to beat them to much better quality phones then it’s time for a change. I mean, SERIOUSLY T-Mobile! You let Google pimp you with the G1 and then you just sit back and let EVERY OTHER BLESSED CARRIER out fox and out move you……………nm. Sorry for venting about the obvious :-(

  • http://Website revs1227

    why are people calling this the evo 2????????????
    how about G3!
    or mytouch 2?
    t mobile killing it

  • http://Website Christian B.

    I’m sure this phone will be incrediblr. And its not even the phone you said we all would love?! Are you having second-thoughts on the Atrix :P

  • http://Website Steffen

    Dear T-Mobile,

    I’ll take a dual core HTC device, with a next-generation-better-than-iPhone display, with a 4 inch screen, stock android and 16GB of on board storage plus SD expansion. Please??? kthxbye!


    P.S. if you could give me a solid brushed aluminium body and a track ball(or just a really good notification LED) that would be swell.

  • http://Website Mark

    Are people really this surprised?? I laughed, scratch that, I chuckled to myself when Taylor posted the all assuming post of his of why he was switching to AT&T for the Atrix. Hate to say I told you so but I did. I said that it won’t be long before T-Mo announces their own dual core phone. Why people were getting all giddy for the Atrix was beyond me. The only thing that amused me was that it was going to be the first one out the gate.

    • http://Website osideous

      the LG Optimus 2x is already out, just not here. so regardless Motorola Atrix isnt first out of the gate.

  • http://Website ablkida

    I love my G2, but… do I dare consider getting this phone? Gasp!!!

    • http://Website Casper

      Thinking the same thing myself.

  • http://Website vinny

    Best phone on the best Network. Thank You T Mobile and HTC makers of the best phone, Nexus One.

  • http://Website tomnewtn

    ok….I’m amazed no one said it (sang it), but if I get this phone, I’m gonna “TALK LIKE AN E-GYPTIANNNN”

  • http://Website Jason

    1.2ghz dual core with up to 88 million triangles per sec? Samsungs single core 1ghz hummingbird does 90 million triangles per sec. Samsungs dual core Orion chip will prob break 200 mil triangles per sec. At least Htc will have Android updates unlike Samsung.

  • http://Website JLO

    This is a load of bullshit

    1080p hd video recording
    16 mp camera

    • http://Website Manny

      did you read the whole post?

  • http://Website metzger

    people always wonder why others want 4g speeds or whatever. i’d say it is because they dont have landline internet and have to use their phone as a tethering modem.
    since tmobile is a german company and this phone is an alleged exclusive, it would only be fair if they released it here aswell. if you compared the phone pool in germany with the american one, some would be quite surprised. no exclusive aggreements whatsoever, you can buy all phones off contract.

  • http://Website Blest

    About damn time Tmobile.
    Dont make me dump you.

    This isnt love the way you lie. I will leave. (~_~)

  • http://Website Adwin

    The Qualcomm + HTC duo will only be playing catch up at this point.
    May? In May, Tegra 2.5 will shortly be available, with dual 1.2GHz as well. Not mentioning the fact that NVidia is way over Qualcomm’s head when it comes to 3D processors -> which means, compatibility and performance. You should see a definite shift in developers leaving “other” CPUs and primarily supporting Tegra chips (Samsung Intrinsity are an exception, since they power iOS – even though the world has clamped on Android, iOS isn’t going away any time soon, especially not in the US/Canada). This will take a while though, till Tegra chips take a substantial amount of pie regarding the amount of phones using that platform. On a side note, there are projects ALREADY primarily targetting TEGRA (Unreal Engine 3 comes to mind).
    The ONLY thing still keeping me with HTC is the quality of the products (my current handset is a Desire HD). Apart from the obvious CPU/GPU/RAM trio, there are 2 things I value
    - full body aluminium casing
    and more importantly
    - maximum screen real estate (little or no free space apart from the screen on the front), coupled with no hardware buttons; I’m all touch. You can anyway see that the Android devs have finally grasped the idea in Honeycomb + Xoom.

    • http://Website Adwin

      NVidia isn’t your everyday newcomer; and look at all the newer handsets: EVERY SINGLE one of the manufacturers, whether it’s Motorola, LG, NotionInk, every one chose NVidia. By the time 1st half of 2011 is over, Tegra 2 will have paved a nice road for Tegra 2.5 and later, for Tegra 3.
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    To paraphrase a top comment. “The only reason I’d go to TMobile” :p

  • http://Website DaveC

    This could make toy budgeting in the near future a difficult process. This phone sounds great but so does the G-Slate. Decisions…decisions! :-)

  • http://Website Paul Atreides

    Good news for T-mobile, they definitely need a superphone. However, to say this would be the EVO 2 would not make sense to me unless the carrier part of the rumor is a tad off. I doubt the second iteration will be some rebranded T-mobile phone. Hopefully T-mobile won’t put that horrid Espresso skin on this which sickens me almost as much as Motoblur. This gives me hope that the EVO 2 is dual core.

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    Very happy to hear this. If this ends up being true this might be the replacement phone for me. Hard to say since I LOVE my Nexus One. Now if it were to have stock android that would be just perfect. I could live with Sense but we’ll see. Can’t wait to hear more about this.

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    Wait. What happened to crowning Nividia the King already, and HTC being married to Qualcomm and Qualcomm being a year behind Nvidia in the dual-core department?

    • http://Website Lucian Armasu

      Well, they pretty much are. Tegra 2 was available in tablets and a laptop since October 2010. It’s just that we haven’t heard much about it because the software wasn’t yet ready for dual cores, including Google’s own Android 3.0.

      Also the quad core 1.5 Ghz Tegra 3 is supposed to come out this fall, also when Qualcomm will barely get out their dual core 1.5 Ghz. So yes, Qualcomm is far behind still, especially in GPU performance.

    • http://androidandme.com Taylor Wimberly

      HTC is married to Qualcomm. And Qualcomm was behind NVIDIA with their first dual-core. Those are just the facts Miguel.

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    Watch HTC put that same crappy 1230mAh battery into this thing. Just like the one in HD2/HD7/Desire HD. A Ferrari with a 5 gallon gas tank.

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    I guessed the Qualcomm MSM8260 dual-core HTC for MWC a couple of days ago on my http://armdevices.net/2011/02/01/what-to-expect-from-mobile-world-congress/

    Your Google Music rumor might be true and Google might have decided to do a larger launch announcement for it at MWC as well, not release all of it at the Honeycomb event.

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    My question is how will this dual core processor compare to the likes of Samsung’s Orion or the Tegra2? This is tempting… should I go for LG, a relative Android newcomer with a Tegra2, or HTC, a tried and true manufacturer of high quality handsets but running a dual core Scorpion… :-/

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    But the information about ‘HTC pyramid’ in Taiwan is different…

    It’s said that it has 3D camera and 3D display…..

    But it has dual-core 1.2 GHz Snapdragon processor, too.

    I don’t know which resource is correct….

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    Htc makes the best phones sense or not. Lg is also top notch but I have a nexus one and coming from black berry htc is there times better

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    If this is true, has 1080 playback, a FFC, 4G and the dual-core benchmarks look good, Tmo may actually keep me as a customer come Q2.

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    Damn swype three times better

  • http://Website teleknEsis

    I’ve been holding out for the Optimus 2x but I think I just found a reason to pass. 4.3″ qHD display and HSPA+ support would make it a no-brainer to hold out for the Pyramid

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    You guys know mytouch sense has all the same features as sense 2.0 only with squares around the icons.and you cam get rid of the squares by installing androidian theme from the market

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    awesome phone cant wait for it!!!

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    may seems so far away.

  • http://Website Kennon

    88M triangles/sec = 2M triangles/sec less than the single core Galaxy S.

    • Scotter

      Samsung defines triangle = 1 vertex while most others define it as 3 vertex. So for purpose of comparison, the Galaxy S is getting more like 33 triangles/sec.

  • Scotter

    oops I mean 30 :)

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    I am quite jealous, I told me dad to switch to T-Mobile ever since they had the Side Kick,
    And he always said ‘no’.

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    What about a front-facing camera for Skype or similar? Any ideas?

  • Drew

    Yes! My G1′s contract ends in May!

  • http://Website Casper

    - 16-megapixel camera support

    Am I reading this correct? haha. I understand not all of these items will make it, but heck… I’d be pleased with half that.

    Set the bar overtly high so if you don’t make it over, you still did something special.

  • http://Website ACR

    High-performance GPU — up to 88M triangles/sec. Basically a Hummingbird’s GPU performance (90 mil). I am pretty sure Tegra 2 and Orion will be alot faster.

  • http://afeldman.net Noyabronok

    MyTouch 4G is a great phone at TMobile right now. I don’t know why a lot of you are complaining that there isn’t a good phone out already.

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  • http://Website some internet dude

    Not holding my breath, but it would be nice.

  • http://Website Sarah

    Is this phone going to have a front-facing cam for 2 way video conference?

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    Hope they bring this hotness in vanilla

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    Do you have any evidence this will be an Android device?

    Could it be another damned W7 monster?

    T-Mobile needs BIG ANDROID.

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    I jeszcze żeby miał kamerę do wideorozmów 5 megapikseli

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    I hope this comes international unkike the HTC Evo. But then again, if it doesn’t, I’ll just get a samsung galaxy S2 which looks awesome

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    I hope it has HDMI mirroring and I no to sense also.

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