Jun 15 AT 11:01 AM Alberto Vildosola 62 Comments

BGR: Nexus 4G to arrive this Thanksgiving with dual-core 1.2 GHz CPU, 4G LTE, Android 4.0

Here we go again. The Nexus 3 rumor mill is back in full force. This week’s rumor is brought to you by Boy Genius Report. They’re now reporting that Google’s upcoming Android phone will be called Nexus 4G and will have all the following goodies:

  • Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich
  • Dual-core 1.2 GHz or 1.5 GHz processor with TI’s OMAP 4460 and Qualcomm’s Krait-based Snapdragon chips as likely candidates, according to BGR.
  • 720p HD “monster-sized” screen
  • 1 GB of RAM
  • 5 MP rear-facing camera with “class-leading image quality in addition to superior low-light performance”
  • 1 MP front-facing camera
  • 1080p HD video capture and playback
  • 4G LTE support
  • Ultra-thin design
  • No hardware buttons

While a very impressive spec sheet, we actually have a couple of bones to pick with BGR’s report, starting with the processor. Qualcomm’s Krait-based Snapdragon processors won’t launch on devices until 2012. This alone brings into question the validity of BGR’s “exclusive.” We’re nice guys, so we’ll just let it slide.

But then there’s the name: Nexus 4G. Is it me, or is it a little weird that Google would put “4G” on there? Even if the device does support true LTE 4G, they already have the Nexus S 4G. And this could be a little confusing for consumers. Who knows, though? I could be wrong.

BGR also speculates that the Nexus 4G could come to AT&T, which we’re having a hard time believing for a couple of reasons. First, just because AT&T is buying T-Mobile doesn’t mean that Ma Bell is now the default choice for the “Google Phone.” AT&T and Google are not exactly best friends, and the two companies have a long history of butting heads. And second, AT&T’s LTE network is not even turned on yet and will only be available in 15 markets by 2012. Why release an LTE 4G phone on the one carrier that’s furthest from having a true 4G network ready?

Lastly, BGR says this device might not be a Nexus-branded phone after all. It could turn out to be merely the first phone to launch with Ice Cream Sandwich–just like Google did with the Motorola Droid and Motorola Xoom. Again, BGR seems to be all over the place with this report, raising more questions than answering. But what do you guys think, should we believe this rumor or take a wait-and-see approach before jumping to conclusions? Let us know in the comments.

Source: BGR

Alberto is a college student living somewhere between Miami, Sarasota and the World Wide Web. Although a former iPhone owner, Alberto is now a proud Android enthusiast. You can follow Alberto on Twitter and Google+ for his thoughts unworthy of an article.

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  • http://Website dagamer34

    Hasn’t nvidia already publicly said they are “actively working with Google on Ice Cream Sandwich”? And the fact that the Tegra 2 is already the reference platform for Honeycomb means it’d be easy to slip in a Tegra 3 for ICS.

    Not only that, I want quad-core in my Nexus!

    • http://trueacu.com acupuncture

      ditto. . . I want a quad-core in the next Nexus. . . not to wait another year. Seems that Google isn’t really going after the top spot for hardware with the Nexus line any more.

      • http://Website JTW

        Those that work on Cyanogenmod state that dual core Krait based snapdragons are faster than quadcore tegras (I would take it with a grain of salt though, as those with Cyanogenmod are extremely loyal to HTC).

        • http://Website metafor

          Krait is an A15-class (similar in performance) processor compared to the A9′s used in Tegra 3. So it’s per-core performance will be higher but not necessarily it’s multi-core performance depending on how well software scales to use all 4 cores.

  • http://Website Noriega713

    Sounds Sexy!!!

    • http://Website Taliban pride, mudjahedin pride

      iPhone is better

  • http://Website Raj

    All you’ve done by writing this article is confirm what everyone smart already knows – that these are nothing but rumors and we shouldn’t believe a single word.

    With that said whoever thought of putting this phone on att should be punched. The I’d prefer sprint personally.

    • http://Website GalaxyS2

      “With that said whoever thought of putting this phone on sprint should be punched. The I’d prefer att personally.”

      there, fixed it for you…

      ok, I know we disagree, but there are many people who would love to see this on att. I personally have no problems with att and have great coverage too!

      ICS and next Nexus FTW!

      • http://Website Richard Yarrell

        Listen up THROB whatever they decide to do with this Nexus 3 you can bet it will be on SPRINT EXCLUSIVELY FIRST BEFORE ANY OTHER CARRIER…THAT’S A PROMISE…

        • http://Website SilverZero

          Promises, promises. How about a source on that? It’s not much use to decry the “rumor mill” and then put out statements like yours. (Don’t get me wrong, I hope you end up being right.)

  • http://Website Thorpeland

    BGR has been losing credibility with me for sometime. I can no longer stomach any article written by Geller. And their fact collecting is really hit or miss. They’re turning into more of a tech tabloid than a trusted, un-biased tech news site. Don’t even start me on their love affair with the iphone.

  • http://alostpacket.com/ alostpacket

    I think BGR be trollin’ :)

  • http://Website FunnyLookinHat

    720p HD “monster-sized” screen sounds like BS to me. I can barely hold a 4.3″ phone comfortably – what are they going to do, include a 5″ screen just to be the biggest phone on the market? Not the brightest idea.

    If the Nexus 3 ( or whatever it’s called ) wants to succeed, they’ll follow the rumored Apple iPhone direction and make it a CDMA / GSM world phone that will work on all US carriers – even if it’s only 3G, that speed is still MORE than enough for 90% of mobile phone users – myself being one of them – who aren’t really interested in paying extra for 4G speeds yet.

    • http://Website Joze

      My sentiments exactly..If your going to have a primary locking on the more expensive carriers..you should at least give us the option in some way to still choose our carriers

      • http://Website rob

        dude what are you thinking CDMA is DEAD the market is a global place f*** all country’s use CDMA now Australia Switched it of nearly 5 years ago Asia runs 3/4G europe Runs 3G Stop being So American and thinking that the US is the centre of the earth…

        • http://Website SilverZero

          Um, I’m not convinced you even know what CDMA and 3G/4G are. Sprint and Verizon are pretty big CDMA markets (in the U.S.) and they both have 3G/4G networks already in place. It’s like you’re saying “the laptop is dead – you should get WiFi!”

          Or maybe you just need more GeeBees?

    • http://Website Lucian Armasu

      It won’t have physical buttons, so that will save significant space. An edge-to-edge 4.5″ phone without physical buttons should be about as big as a current 4.3″ phone

    • http://Website Dan

      A 720p screen is 16:9 aspect ratio – the same as qhd. I have an Evo and I got the opportunity to hold a mockup of the Sensation 4g the other day. I can tell you that the narrower qhd display makes that 4.3 inch screen much easier to live with. My evo feels like a brick compared to the Sensation. So I think if you remove the space required of physical or capacitive buttons and replace them with more screen real estate, you could conceivably have a phone that feels as small as the Sensation with a 4.5 in screen or possibly even larger.

      • http://Website Tom

        Yeah, I held an Evo 3D mockup the other day, frankly, it didn’t feel much different from my G2X. I think I could live with it. Back when I was on my Nexus One, though, the idea of a 4.3 incher was just impossible to me

    • http://www.kablowie.com Greg B

      “even if it’s only 3G, that speed is still MORE than enough for 90% of mobile phone users”… FunnyLookinHat

      “640K ought to be enough for anybody…” Not Bill Gates (but regularly attributed to him)

      Please do not assume you represent 90% of mobile phone users, nor should you assume that 4G costs more than 3G across the board.

    • http://Website wes

      Toshiba is supposed to have a 4-inch screen with native 720p resolution coming out later this year….


  • http://Website Dee

    i agree with Thorpe;and~
    BGR just makes posts for hits rather than report actual facts. their recent post “http://www.bgr.com/2011/06/13/how-apple-stole-notifications-from-android-and-beat-them-with-ios-5/” was a comical read…
    with that said…
    technically this is the fourth nexus phone~(nexus one, nexus s, nexus s 4g). so i would like to see the four theme continued~4 cores, android 4.0, 4 touch buttons (which im interested to see). im calling the new nexus Cuatro until further notice :)
    i have a new question though~if they get rid of hardware buttons, what does that mean for phones with hardware buttons? and does that mean that OEMs will have to totally refresh their skins? sense 4.0 already? (in theme with 4′s again lol)

    • http://Website Miguel

      The Nexus S 4G was not a 3rd Nexus phone. It was simply the Nexus S on Sprint. The phone is identical to the version on T-Mobile, expect for the radio.

      • http://Website Dee

        Thats why i said “technically”.

  • http://Website garrett

    So I’m confused, how exactly did they cobble all this information together? Atleast you guys give us some reasons behind your madness (which I love). This BGR report seems to skimp on why it is they think these details are true. Also, every one of your counterpoints blows this report out of the water. It wouldn’t make sense to release a Nexus phone with a name just like the last one.

  • http://Website Dan

    I call shenanigans! I’m sure Nvidia will be the SOC for this phone, because I’m not buying it otherwise =D.

    Oh and a 720p (1280×720) isn’t far fetched. With that resolution, we’ll need a quadcore. The first time apple’s 960×540 display came out, they crammed that into a tiny diagonal space. And even before that the Droid 1 with its 480×854, which is a 16:9 ratio.

    So imagine a 4.5 inch screen without buttons covering the entire front surface. The super long portrait view will be shared with the UI buttons. It may be roughly the size of the Nexus S.

    Finally a True HD screen, not some fake HD (Ipad *cough* Iphone4 *cough*).

  • iDavey

    Same thing I said. Their “exclusive” seem to be nothing but guesses and no-brainers put together to make them get some hits. Sigh.

  • http://Website Daniel

    Qualcomm chipset? Superior low-light performance camera? That sounds like a Sony Ericsson product.

  • http://Website Mark

    …and I have balls the size of Alaska. >_>

  • http://Website kk

    LTE isn’t true 4g chief.

    • http://www.anthonydomanico.com Anthony Domanico

      It meets the 4g definition.

  • http://www.bestandroiddeals.com Paul Paulson

    arentWhile those are nice specs they aren’t mind-blowing like I want them to be. Quad-core, 8 or 12 megapixel camera wirh a great sensor, those are the type of specs Google needs room be dumping into this phone. Then again that true HD screen sure sounds impressive.

    • http://Website Bill

      Why do people keep wanting “8 or 12 megapixel camera”? The images are just crap. Even Canon, in its pro-sumer G-series cameras have gone down in megapixles (the G10 was 14MP and the G11 and G12 are 10MP). Plus, those cameras have massive sensors compared to these phones. A lower resolution but much more sensitive sensor would be awesome. Death to 8MP! Long live 5MP!


  • http://Website Nick

    Personally I like real buttons… Maybe thats just me…

  • http://Website JTW

    Alberto, not that you’ll respond to me anyways. Dual core krait based snapdragons will be ready for 2011.

    • Alberto Vildosola

      “The MSM8960 will be available first, sampling in Q2 2011 and likely in devices a year or so later.”


      • http://Website JTW

        Well, your boss? , Taylor says

        ” Qualcomm just announced that their next generation of Snapdragon processors will sample in June and should be available by the end of the year. These latest processors feature Qualcomm’s new Krait CPU architecture, which replaces the aging Scorpion core found in the first couple generations of Snapdragons.”


        • http://www.anthonydomanico.com Anthony Domanico

          The funny coincidence here is that Taylor is also the one who told us in our email discussion today that they wouldn’t be available until next year. Maybe he’s learned something new since then? I’ll ping him and report back.

        • Alberto Vildosola

          Taylor meant that Krait will available for OEMs to use this Christmas. The actual devices will arrive in the first half of 2012

      • http://Website Miguel

        This was posted way back in February, nearly 6 months ago.

        Since then, Nvidia has ratcheted up the heat on Qualcomm, and Texas Instruments is not sitting idle either.

        It’s entirely possible that due to these factors, and pressure from Google to have the processor ready for the next Nexus device by the holidays, that Qualcomm has moved this timetable up quite a bit in order to compete.

  • http://Website MooQ

    The Reference Platform for Ice Cream Sandwich is not Tegra 3, it is actually the Omap4.
    So the next Nexus is going to have an Omap 4.
    And no, I´m not saying this because I hate nVidia or love TI. I Actually have an LG Optimus 2X Tegra 2 Phone.

    And you wont see a Tegra 3 Quadcore SoC in a Phone any time soon. Tegra 3 will have multiple SKU configurations and Quadcore is tablet only due power comsumption. Tegra 2 und Tegra 3 are both built on the 40nm manufactoring process. Tegra 3 has double the processing cores and higher clock rates than Tegra 2 and all this scales up linear with power consumption.
    Quad Core Phones wont appear until 2012 until the new 28nm manufactring processes are available for mass production.

    • http://Website MooQ

      Oh and I almost forgot:
      LG presented new ultra high resolution IPS Panels last May. One of them was a 1280×720 4,5″ Display

      If LG really is the rumored manufactorer of the next Nexus, such a display could really be in the next Nexus.
      And as Lucian Armasu already stated, a 4,5″ Device with no hardware buttons and super thin borders isnt biggerthan a 4,3″ Device.

    • http://www.anthonydomanico.com Anthony Domanico

      We have it on very good authority that Kal-El will be featured in the first quad-core phone released, and that it’ll be in 2011.

  • http://Website Noel

    Will be fine if it comes with LTE, but just make sure u include Tmo 3G/HSPA+ on it.

  • http://Website vasra

    If it is really OMAP 4460 with PowerVR SGX 540, then it is way too old and tired.

    I guess Google cant really get up to date hardware from any of the manufacturers and it makes no sense to make a dev phone that is top of the line.

    But if it ships during Thanksgiving, it should have at least 4470 with SGX 544 level hardware to be competitive with everything else that ships by then.

    Otherwise it will be just another me-too-android-phone, albeit with updates straight from Google, which is of course a great plus.

  • http://Website snowbdr89

    Why do people make such a big deal over true 4g or not true 4g or cry because its a 5 mpixel cam over n 8 mpixel? Who really gives a rats ass if its true 4g its faster then 3g!! Are you really going to tell a huge difference between 5 compared to 8 mpixels? Spoon fed fuckers


    o boy oboy.. i love the rumors!! cant wait on concrete info.. sensation 4g will last me until then !

  • http://Website DJ “suMo*

    I’m leaning more towards the ‘Six Reasons’ post – posted, previously. This just sounds like a bunch of hoopla for whatever the hell it may be…

  • http://Website snowbdr89

    I wonder why that dumb bastard dick yarrell hasnt commented on this an how his evo 3d will be future proof threw 2012 well in reality gadgets are only future proof for a few weeks with the way they keep pumping these beasts out but i hope these specs are true an not a rumor and unlike some picky fuckers on here a 5 mpixel cam is just fine. : )

  • http://Website Richard Yarrell..Awaiting my Evo 3d

    So far if all these rumoured to be specs hold true I will remain with my Evo 3d. Spec wise the Evo 3d already will be better than this Nexus 3 all I need is some Ice Cream on my 3d evo and I will be in the game. The next device I buy will have to KNOCK ME DOWN SPEC WISE OTHERWISE THE QUADCORE EVO FOR 2012 WILL BE MY GOAL.

    • http://Website Austin Serio



      Dude, no one cares. Go get laid.

  • http://Website snowbdr89

    dick other then having the useless 3d your evo3d is really no different from most of these upcoming phones u dipshit!!

    • http://Website snowbdr89

      You upset bro need a hug?

  • http://Website Nostradamoose

    Nooooo :( Considering how big of an update Ice Cream Sandwich is (See: “Android 4.0″), I don’t see why Google won’t cook a Nexus to come with it. Even Andy Rubin and other Google execs have mentioned that the Nexus line’s purpose is just exactly that–to showcase the new OS version and push the hardware requirements into the right direction.

    Naming convention-wise, yeah, “Nexus 4G” and “Nexus S 4G” will just confuse potential Android buyers. I personally think “Nexus 3″ is a more appropriate name, although I secretly wish the next Nexus would come with glassless 3D technology (can you imagine the Honeycomb UI in 3D?) and recording capabilities…

    … and they should call it, the “NEXUS 3D”. It is the third generation nexus, after all.

  • http://Website Nelson

    If you don’t mind waiting another 3 years… :)

  • http://Website Tom

    Agreed… This has quite a few holes. Speculation is always fun though… Did you hear it’s also going to come with a pez dispenser built in..??

  • http://Website crap really

    Nexus S 4G is already there…..out on Sprint Network…

    Do you really think they will name the Nexus device Nexus 4G???? really??????

    This information is crap and all made up.

  • http://www.clusta.com h0ruza

    Android OS 4.0 rather than 3.x? All seems a little soon for a major milestone release.

  • http://Website Miguel

    Like I said before, the next Nexus device will likely seem to disappoint most hardcore enthusiasts. Google doesn’t seem to make hardware decisions based on “the next best thing”. There is an “arms race” in mobile processors, and Google doesn’t usually jump into such hype. They seem to design the Nexus series to bes showcase whichever iteration of Android they are introducing, and where they would like to see things move the most in Android.

    Doesn’t anybody remember when the Nexus S was announced, people were literally ready to call to arms because it lacked a dual-core, which would have been a first smartphone. But Google knew that Gingerbread was not optimized for dual-core (and still isn’t) so what would be the point in wasting resources on it?

    Same thing with the SD slot. Google built the device with more than enough built-in storage, so they removed the SD card slot. This is yet another trend that Google seemed like they wanted to initiate (but hasn’t really caught on).

    All of these rumored specs sound EXACTLY like what Google would do.

    - dual core process or instead of the quad-core
    - 5mp camera instead of the 8mp or 10mp of norm now
    - introducing a new non-hardware button scheme
    - LTE support but for AT&T, which will be available in only a dozen markets (sounds like what they did with NFC)

    So sure the Nexus will be an incredible specimen, but I HIGHLY doubt it will be quad-core anything. It would be pointless. Google does not work like that.

  • alamoe

    Regardless of who makes the phone I think Google WANTS it to be on Verizon. The rumors about LTE and it possibly being a branded phone lead me to believe this. Anybody remember how much Google and Verizon hyped the OG Droid? What better way to introduce a big update like ICS than with a new Droid-branded phone?

  • http://Website Dheeraj

    Where is PowerVR Series 6?

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