Sep 13 AT 4:06 PM Dustin Earley 34 Comments

Samsung outs T-Mobile Galaxy S II processor as 1.5GHz dual-core Qualcomm on Twitter

Galaxy S II T-Mobile glassbox

The jig is finally up. Ever since the Samsung event at the end of August, mystery has surrounded the innards of T-Mobile’s Galaxy S II variant. From the very beginning, leaks (and the Samsung Hercules) pointed toward a Qualcomm processor instead of Samsung’s in-house Exynos. Thanks to a tweet from Samsung’s Galaxy S Support Twitter account, it looks like that has been confirmed.

After a bit of harassment from a vehement fan, @GalaxySsupport blurted out, “The Samsung #GalaxyS2 comes with a 1.5 dual core Qualcomm APQ8060 processor.” That was over two hours ago now, and Samsung has yet to take it down. That’s usually a good sign. As far as any differences in previous rumors go, the only change is the clock speed. Most previous rumors pointed toward a 1.2 GHz 8060, not 1.5 Ghz. In a July 31 article from our own Taylor Wimberly, however, the inclusion of a new 1.5 GHz 8060 was mentioned as a distinct possibility. In that same article, the MDM8220 category 24 HSDPA modem processor was pegged as the radio inside.

Compatibility with the MDM8220 has widely become the accepted reasoning behind the decision to include a Qualcomm processor inside the Galaxy S II instead of Samsung’s own Exynos. The MDM8220 is capable of 42Mbps HSPA+. T-Mobile made a wise decision by choosing Qualcomm’s Snapdragon S3. The chip doesn’t suffer in power compared to Exynos (unless we’re talking GPU), and will offer a huge boost in network speed. Do you think T-Mobile made the right call, or should they have stuck with slower network speeds and a Exynos CPU?

Via: PhoneDog

Source: Twitter

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    i say they did well…. most customers want the speed over anything else.. it gives tmobile a reason to boast there being better than the others

  • Irishrally

    I don’t know, I’ve had a chubby for the Exynos for awhile now. Also not too confident we’ll ever really be able to take advantage of the increased data rate.

    • Shanikwa Johnson

      Maybe I can suck on that chubby for you?

      • Nate B.

        Is that why your last name is Johnson?

      • Dirty_Azkals

        Geez, Think of the Children!

        With language like that I definitely know I’m not on an Apple fan-boy site : )

  • OskarMULA

    That’s right T-Mobile! Aww this phone is starting to look appealing to me! Got. To. Wait. For. Nexus. Prime.

  • deimos86

    I find the Exynos + Mali 400 a better duo. I own an original Galaxy S II and compared to the sensation and other Dualcore Snapdragon devices my phone FLIES!. MUCH more smooth scrolls, better FPS in games, better experience overall. abot the 42mps…?? T-Mobile doesnt even take Full advantage of the 21mbps HSPA+ why would that be a motivation to drop exynos?? Anyway by the time they get this HSPA+ 42mbps going the galaxy S ii will be story…

    • moarmeen

      What do you mean by “T-Mobiel doesn’t even take full advantage of the 21mbps HSPA+” ? As far as I know the Galasy S 4G supports it (it’s the only phone that does I believe).

      • deimos86

        It doesnt.. put it this way… You have a gigabit Lan card but your internet probider gives you 5 or 10 mbps?? whats the use?? Your are not using the whole capacity of the connection.

  • Jeff

    I think Myriam Joire at Engadget already figured it out: Exynos doesn’t support AWS.

  • kwills88

    To be honest, I am kinda on the fence about this..the faster network speeds sounds applealing, but not everyone will able to get to use it to it’s full potential…though the 1.5 upgrade might be able to handle everything so it does sound great…with the 1.5 bump I could stay with this phone until ics comes out instead of putting it off for the nexus 3.

    • deimos86

      That Qualcomm procesor its okay…. get a sensation and waitch it lag in full pages and scrolls But the adreno GPU its the major flaw.. If you dont mind games running laggy go for it.

      • kwills88

        I feel like a confused soul, might as well wait out for a head to head between the Hercules and one of the other carrier variants.

      • Dags

        The lag is due to Sense so doesn’t apply to Samsung. The MSM8x60 CPU at 1.5GHz benchmarks the same as the Exynos (except in Quadrant which doesn’t activate the second CPU). The GPU isn’t as good though.

  • TechnoSTIG

    Everyone should read the anandtech review of the gs2, then come and say you still think it’s a good choice to choose qualcomm. It’s not. Exynos is the best processor/gpu for a mobile right now. Overclocking the sensation (which is what this is) still won’t match it. The 42Mbps is not going to load web pages 5 seconds faster, but exynos will open Apps faster..

    • deimos86

      Thats exacly my point……

    • deimos86

      How about being the only Galaxy S II with Qualcomm Processor..?? Will affect the development of apps and custom roms since all the others will share similar specs.. Fragmentation…

      • Sean the Electrofreak

        You really have no idea what you’re talking about, do you?

        Some people just like to say “fragmentation” in order to sound like they know what they’re talking about.

        • deimos86

          I do know what iam talking about, in this since the G1 and when you take a device and make various versions of it with diff specs you ruin it. You will see at the long run what iam talking about.

  • Nathan

    I don’t really care at this point

  • Tran Lang

    I can live with it.

  • Ichigo

    Well I don’t know… The thing is the Qualcomm chip is asynchronous. So well c what happens. I would have prefer the exynos processor.

  • R.S

    And of course (unless I missed something) still no official release date!

    September 21th?

    October 26th?

  • h0ruza

    Basically we need these all bench marked against each other as well as the Original asap.

    Make it so

  • Tony

    Shoulda went with the OMAP5 and PowerVR SGX544MP. 35M T/sec vs the 30M in the Mali400. Plus the new OMAP5 has a dedicated 2D hardware accelerator for UI and other small stuff so as to not suck power to run the GPU.

    • Tony

      The T/sec IS a fill rate. The SGX544 also does 1000 pixels/sec while the Mali does 1100. I care more about T/sec, because that ultimately determines the smoothness and quality of 3D gaming (not 3D as in the glasses stuff… 3D as in 3D).

  • Rushi

    Waiting for Richard Yarell to make a comment about how Sprint was wise for whatever reason because their network is amazing for another whatever reason

    • Albert

      Usually if the article does not contain htc, sprint or evo Mr. Yarell will not comment. I would love to read a review article on the epic 4g touch by Yarrell, but it would probably kill him to have to speak on a device that will run circles around his beloved evo.

      • squiddy20

        And also if the article has anything to do with root, he stays away from it. He has yet to comment on the “CM 7 for Evo 3D” article. But that just may be because he can’t root since he has no real computer (desktop/laptop) and thinks rooting is for “2 plus year old phones”. Of course he’s also been posting in articles exclusively about Verizon only lately (see “Verizon re-launching app store” article).

  • Bacikarma

    Can we still call this a Galaxy S II phone anymore? For better or worse the phone will run differently then it’s counterparts.

    • Flashfox

      I agree… this can’t be a Galaxy S II as it will be an orphan with a different processor. I too fear that this “fragmentation” will result in slow and very few updates. We will need to rely on XDA and the likes of Cyanogen to help out… wait… Cyanogen (Steve Kondik) now works for Samsung. This will be interesting indeed as perhaps he can influence Samsung’s bureaucrats to be more proactive with updates? <— the main reason I am getting the Galaxy S II is Steve's presence at Samsung. I am willing to take the gamble and replace my rooted LG G2x with the S II ;-)

  • kwills88

    Issue I am still having here is that I need a phone now, but at the same time I want a phone that will keep me happy for awhile, exynos just seems so attractive to me and seeing all those reviews makes me melt, even at 1.5 ghz idk if it will match exynos, and I use wifi more than anything so t-mobiles’ network speed will almost have no meaning to me.