Jan 24 AT 3:13 PM Nick Gray 45 Comments

HTC Primo set to debut at MWC with Android 4.0, dual-core processor


Details of the HTC Ville and Endeavor have been floating around for months now, but it looks like HTC may have another Android phone ready to make its debut at Mobile World Congress next month in Barcelona: the HTC Primo. According to StuffTV, the HTC Primo is expected to be a mid-range Android 4.0 handset, which we suspect to be the replacement for last year’s HTC Desire S.

The HTC Primo is expected to feature a 3.7-inch Super AMOLED display with Gorilla Glass, a 1GHz dual-core processor, 512MB of RAM and a 5 megapixel rear-camera with an f/2.0 lens capable of recording video at 720p and capturing images simultaneously. As you would expect, HTC will will be gracing the Primo with Beats Audio integration. The handset will not be the thinnest in HTC’s 2012 lineup, but I don’t think anyone will be complaining about the Primo’s 9mm thickness.

No images of the HTC Primo are currently available, but we suspect we’ll see a few hit the web before the phone makes its Mobile World Congress debut on February 26.

Source: StuffTV

Nick is a tech enthusiast who has a soft spot for HTC and its devices. Nick joined the Android and Me family in the summer of 2010.

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  • Toonshorty

    I’m I the only person who thinks HTC needs to drop this beats program?

    I’m not some 15 year old gangster who needs to show off their overpriced beats tat. Just give me a clean phone and an equaliser tool and leave me to my own devices if you’d pardon the pun.

    • Galen20K

      don’t I WISH! Unfortunately its so new and they’ve invested too much money to drop it despite the negative reaction towards it.

    • http://htcsource.com Nick Gray

      After spending a couple hundred million dollars on Beats, I think HTC will be using the logo and branding for quite some time. If you’ve used HTC phones with Beat Audio (even with regular headphones) you’ll know that the audio quality is hard to match.

      • Jeff Pan

        Exactly.! Dont think HTC is gonna let go Beats so soon.

        • http://mihai.discuta-liber.com/ tmihai20

          That’s correct, they just added Beats to their product line. You don’t have to be a gangster to enjoy some quality sound, even provided by Beats.

          On another note, why does this phone have only 512 MB of RAM? I really hope that it will have at least 8 GB of internal memory and that HTC has learned its lesson about this. Looks nice though, with its 3,7 inches screen, maybe it will be the “Desire” of the new HTC age (although I highly doubt it, I sadly believe HTC has lost its magic touch).

          • XFlame

            RAM is different from Internal Memory

      • drop

        From what I’ve read, the Beat Audio is just a bass-booster system.
        That may be cool for listening to hip- hop and other beat-based music, but I would not call it ‘audio quality’.

        • http://htcsource.com Nick Gray

          “From what I’ve read…” I suggest you go into Best Buy or a Verizon store and try the HTC Rezound out for yourself. Yes, Beats Audio does boost the base (something that is sorely needed on phones) but it also adds richer tones to the music.

          Try is for yourself before you judge it.

    • Tony

      I thought Monster and Dre parted ways…

      • http://htcsource.com Nick Gray

        Correct, Beats by Dr Dre and Monster did not renew their 5 year contract. That means that Beats headphones will be manufactured by another company.

        • http://htcsource.com Nick Gray

          Don’t forget that you can always turn the beats Audio sound profile off if you don’t like it.

          • Jay

            its more so of him not wanting to be looked at as a 15 year old gangster lmao just having that on his phone makes him feel like he we be arrested

    • mattcoz

      Why would they drop it? Why do you even care?

    • inviolable

      +11 Thumbs for stereotyping. Beautiful.

    • Jay

      Just because you have beats on something doesn’t make you a gangster smh and i beat alot of people that have beats are far from the 15 year old gangster you’re talking about. If beats were created by anyone other then Dr. Dre you probably wouldn’t have said that. i would rather you have said you don’t like beats based on the quality not based on what you think someone with beats should look like .. i bet that htc rezound commercial clouded your judgement, just felt the need to respond.

  • josegb2011

    whats wrong with beats? It makes listening tomusic more unique..

  • http://www.infotainmentempire.com pekosROB

    “The HTC Primo is expected to feature a 3.7-inch Super AMOLED display with Gorilla Glass, a 1GHz dual-core processor, 512MB of RAM and a 5 megapixel rear-camera with an f/2.0 lens capable of recording video at 720p and capturing images simultaneously.”

    I love how a “midrange” phone is now 512 MB RAM, 5MP camera, and has both Gorilla Glass and a dual core processor. Can’t wait to see what all “superphones” in 2012 we will see!

    • Jeff Pan

      This also confirms that Sense for ICS is ready! Wohoo!

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        Portables: $4.66 billion, up 26 percent from $3.7 billion a year earlier.
        iPod: $2.53 billion, down 26 percent from $3.43 billion a year earlier.
        Music: $2.03 billion, up 42 percent from $1.43 billion a year earlier.
        iPhone: $24.42 billion, up 133 percent from $10.5 billion a year earlier.
        iPad: $9.15 billion, up 99 percent from $4.6 billion a year earlier.
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        iPod: 15.4 million units, down 21 percent from 19.44 million units a year earlier.
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        Europe: $11.3 billion, up 55 percent from $7.23 billion a year earlier.
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        Japan: 184,000 units, up 14 percent from 162,000 units a year earlier.
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        • http://www.infotainmentempire.com pekosROB

          Please tell me you copied and pasted this and actually didn’t take the time to WRITE IT OUT.

        • pjax

          could’ve saved a few kilobytes if you just pasted the link

          also: out of topic

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    • delinear

      Yeah, this was a decent desktop spec ten years ago, now it’s not even a top of the range phone. Exciting times ahead.

      • http://www.infotainmentempire.com pekosROB

        Hell, my red-headed bastard of a step child Motorola Droid3 has 512 MB of RAM, dual core processor, 5MP camera (only difference is it can do 1080p). And not 6 months ago it was one of the higher end phones. Except of course this HTC phone would have a better camera with the f/2.0 lens.

        • http://htcsource.com Nick Gray

          Keep in mind the DROID 3 was intended to be a high-end device. HTC will be pitching this phone as a mid to low end handset.

  • fatspirit

    With Beats or not with Beats – it’s not the question. If HTC will put enough internal memory Primo will be a really good mid-range device.

  • http://keridel.blogspot.com keridel

    Im looking forward to seeing htc’s offering at mwc

    I have the pleasure of being there this year and making videos for xda as well. :)

    • http://keridel.blogspot.com keridel

      thanks :) i’m so excited i could pee myself. it’s gonna be awesome.

  • erimin

    We will wait to see.

  • Hall Lo

    It’s good too see that there are some mid-range fone with a smaller screen :) My sister always complain about the big screens on the fones nowadays, tho I like about the size of the Galaxy Nexus

  • Hue Three of Five

    Is there any reason that a phone in 2012 should have 512mb ram? What good is a fast processor if the ram is so low.

    • http://htcsource.com Nick Gray

      It’s a known fact that profit margins on mid and low-end devices are very thin. If HTC is going to offer this phone to the public for a low price, they have cut something out in order to make the device cheaper. 512MB of RAM may not sound like a lot these days, but it should be more than enough for the average consumer.

      • Hue Three of Five

        Yea I guess its ok for the average consumer. They might not like their device though if it runs choppy due to low ram.

        • Erik N

          In what world would 512MB of RAM make a phone run choppy? The majority pg high-end Android phones in 2011 only had 512MB of RAM. Android actively managed RAM and will simply kill off some of your recent apps in order for the system to run smoothly. The only time your phone would be choppy with 512MB of RAM is if a developer doesn’t know what they are doing and creates an app that consumes more resources than it should.

          • Hue Three of Five

            Not all of the 512mb is available to the user. Sense eats some, launcher overlays, certain games, background processes, push processes, widgets, etc. Even the Inc 2 has 768mb ram and is considered a mid range phone. If one has a bunch of processes running at once on top of system processes and overlay process, it will stutter a bit. But not too much I guess because it does have a dual core.

          • drop

            Android ICS minimum hardware requirements are 256MB of RAM.
            512 MB means that you wont be able to browse webpages will running apps in the background.

  • spazby

    Get me the the highest end specs at the lowest possible price – don’t really need beats

  • Nathan D.

    I would rather have high end specs for my next phone.

  • benben

    A successor to the Desire S with less RAM than the Desire S?
    I really hope it has at least 768 MB RAM. The Desire Z with its 512 MB RAM runs Sense 3.0/3.5 ROMs quite laggy at best admittedly with a single core processor but still…

  • revs

    I’ll tell you right now. NO PHONE WITH 512 RAM IS RUNNING SENSE @ALL *

    • ayan15

      my SENSATION with ICS 4.0.3 with stock kernel and sense 3.6 runs very smoothly.. try to upgrade.. sense 3.0 eats lots of ram than 3.5 and 3.6

  • Disbelief

    2 things:

    1. HTC can throw this phone into the trash bin if it comes out with 512 RAM, Desire S and Incredible have more and they are around 450 without contract. Unless Primo is new Wildfire, I do not see how anyone is going to buy that

    2. What is up with screen size these days? I want a phone with HD res, but no larger than 4′ screen, i would like to be able to use it with one hand. If i need a larger screen I will buy a tablet. What is the deal with Dell Streak dead at 5′ and Galaxy Note 5′ is all cool and shiny. Anyway, I want a super high end, but with a 4 inch screen at max. I do not want to have to carry a backpack for the phone. What do you guys think?

  • Disbelief

    I love Android much more than IOs, but there is a reason why Apple is selling so many phones, that is their form factor, I am sure that apple is not going to go past 4′ inch screen, if it will make it larger at all.

    People should realize, that not only screen size is a matter of usability, but also that of battery duration. So why not make a phone with HD screen at 4′(this is what they pretty much done with Iphone 4, put a higher than QHD screen in a small form factor to come up with unparalleled sharpness and clarity. I do not see how HD screen would not look good at 4 inch. Just looked at Xperia S online in video, what can i say, it is huge at 4.3 inch and fat to top it off.

    My friend has Galaxy SII, I hate the form factor and it sucks in terms of battery life. I so much miss my Desire. I will most likely buy either Ville (or whatever it is called these days, if it usable, I found Sensation to be tolerable in terms of single hand use or settle for Primo, unless it really has 512 RAM, then it is no go.

    Dream Phone:

    4′ Inch HD SuperAmoled
    1.5 GB RAM (so that HTC can stuff their sense for a year or so, i hate when they say we are not going to support new Android releases due to hardware)
    16 or 32 GB ROM
    8-12 MP snapper (like that on Nokia N8 or SE)
    Form Factor from Motorola Razor
    1850 Battery
    HTC Sense

    Would pay $800 easily

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