Oct 30 AT 4:33 PM Dustin Earley 59 Comments

Nexus 4 will launch with HSPA+ 42, not 21 as originally listed


As the debate on whether or not the lack of LTE makes the Nexus 4 dead on arrival wages on, Google has clarified the network connectivity listing for the device, adding a correction as to just what kind of speeds it’s capable of.

It has been confirmed by Google that the Nexus 4 has a Dual-Cell HSPA+42 penta-band radio inside, not HSPA+21. For anyone planning to use the Nexus 4 on T-Mobile in the US, or any smaller carriers operating on the same bands, this is great news.

In a study performed by PC Mag this past June, T-Mobile’s HSPA+42 network was able to keep up with and outperform Verizon LTE in several locations across the country. Of course it was bested in some areas by both Verizon and AT&T, but the point is that HSPA+42 is more than capable of holding its own.

For a list of global carriers capable of utilizing HSPA+42, check out this Wikipedia article. The Nexus 4 will be available online via the Google Play store in the United States, United Kingdom, Canada, Germany, France, Spain and Australia November 13. Offline availability is expected in Europe, Asia, CIS, the Middle East, Central and South America by the end of November.

Anyone now reconsidering the Nexus 4 after the orignal lack of LTE turned them away? Or is this just an added bonus for a device you already planned on buying?

Dustin Earley: Tech enthusiast; avid gamer; all around jolly guy.

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  • R.S

    Since I’m on T—Mobile, the lack of LTE wasn’t going to affect my decision to buy this phone. Honestly, I was pretty much set on buying the Note II but at the low price that Google is going to offer the Nexus at, I’m going to go with the 16gb Nexus. Ironically it’s cheaper than buying the Note II through T—Mobile.

    Right now, I regularly get 20Mbps download speeds on T—Mobile.

    • PHONEup

      Note 2 and Nexus 4 are completely different phone. If you are going to use the phone for full 2-year contract, $100 difference is not much. Also, the resale value for TMO Note 2 will be greater and it will support TMO’s LTE down the road

    • Rogue

      It’s better to take the N4 from Google Playstore because the T-mobile branded N4 with not allow voice over wireless.

  • http://clarklab.net Clark Wimberly

  • Alexander drzfr3shboialex

    Yes hopefully there is a white version.

    • Trobing

      Second that.

    • Nate B.

      With a black checkered holo theme on the back instead. That would be awesome.

    • BrandonJD

      There IS a white version, the question is, do we get it. There is evidence that Carphone Warehouse in the UK is getting it, but no one knows beyond that.

    • kazahani

      That’s racist!

    • Richard Yarrell

      Can’t help but wonder what happened to all those Verizon BONE HEADS who were bashing Tmobile??? Kinda funny don’t see them on here now. When I KICKED VERIZON to the curb in June and sold my crusty cdma Verizon Galaxy Nexus I thought I would get another Nexus device this GSM version. But I will pass i am set and extremely happy to be getting the Galaxy Note 2 on Tmobile November 15th. But it’s great to see Tmobile KICKING MAJOR ASS they might not have gotten the Htc One X +but Google made sure Tmobile got the Nexus 4 and Verizon won’t which is all that matters. On November 15th when I walk into my favorite Manhattan Tmobile store right before I purchase my Galaxy Note 2 i will play with the Lg Nexus 4.

      • snowbdr89

        Please go stand in front of a train I’m sure no one will miss you!!

      • Max.Steel

        STFU. You were one of those Verizon “bone heads”.

  • Galen20K

    the fact that I get 20 to 25Mbps regularly on T-Mobile’s HSPA+42 in my area, makes this an Exciting and viable option. LTE can wait until next year as far as I’m concerned, I’m not suffering ; )

  • Nate B.

    I find it funny that some people who are actually on At&t or who want to go GSM are discussed that it doesn’t have LTE, when HSPA+ is just as good. It’s a brand thing. People always want to go with what’s popular and miss out on things that can actually be better or benefit them by doing so. It’s one thing if you are on Verizon and Sprint and they don’t come out with a LTE one at all or if you have to wait.

  • Nathan D.

    Lte was never a factor for me since I’m on t-mobile. But this news is awesome to hear, can’t wait to get it later this year.

  • aranea

    ATT is not on the list of course. Still HSPA+ is enough for my daily use. I connect to wi-fi for anything data heavy anyway. Besides, I get very poor reception with ATT. I’d rather they improve reception and I can use 3g then have an LTE phone but no reception. :)

  • RonWeez

    Does anyone know if/when they will do Preorders like they did with the nexus 7?

    • Dustin Earley

      It sounds like Nov. 13, it’s first come, first serve.

      • RonWeez

        I can Imagine how fast the play store will probably crash with all the orders that will be coming in at 12 am 11/13.

      • apo

        what timezone??

  • Bruce Watson

    I find it funny that Tmobile is the smallest of the big 4 and yet the least expensive and as fast as LTE.

  • Miguel Wickert

    I’m planning on going with the Nexus 4 device, I’m stuck with an Amaze 4G which is solid device but development is lacking. That’s too bad, I’ll never go with a HTC device again.

    • DP

      you should’ve gotten a Sensation instead, much better dev community than the Amaze

    • christianchew

      Honestly, HTC can make some kickass products. It’s just a matter of picking the right ones which comes out to be the issue.

  • Cesar

    Will I be able to use this with my existing AT&T plan?

    • Dustin Earley

      You should be able to pop in your AT&T SIM and be good to go.

      • Cesar

        Thanks for the heads up I will definitely be buying it then

      • Mix

        Should I stay up till 12:01am or get up early at 5am….decisions, decisions!

        • Cesar

          Stay up. That’s what I’ll be doing

      • jmstickney

        but only hspa+21 right? not 42?

        • Zago the Lantarian

          no, it is 42

  • Skeeterflea

    Perfect! TIMN phone.

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  • keke

    what does offline availability mean?

    • Trobing

      I think it means available in stores.

  • http://nickvettesephotography.com Nicholas Vettese

    I was never not going to get this. I was holding out, past my Verizon contract, waiting for this phone. The fact that I was switching to T-Mobile anyways… Just icing on the cake.

  • Nexus 6

    Will this work for AT&T 3g and /or HSPA+ too. Or will it just work for 2g? Anybody know?-Please let me know.

    • Gentleman559

      It will run HSPA+ on AT&T or T-Mobile. You will not be stuck on Edge aka 2G.

      • Nexus 6

        Thanx for this.

  • Brian

    I was planning to ditch VZW for prepaid anyway, so I’m not losing any sleep over lack of LTE. I’ve been on EVDO since 2009. HSPA+ will be plenty fast, and there’s no practical way to get LTE into a phone at this pricepoint.

  • Chris

    LTE doesnt always work and HSPA+ is fast. I know that my pre paid SimpleMobile has HSPA+ from Tmo. So I will be okay when I get my Nexus 4.

    • Emilio

      Why dont u get solavei check solavei.com/latino it is tmobile service but now u can have free service

  • irishrally

    I was getting the phone either way, and as a tmo EMP+ customer it is great to hear this confirmed.

  • jmstickney

    I see people saying that you can use at&t. I understand that, but at&t uses HSPA+ 21, not 42, correct?

    If so, then the HSPA+ on Tmo is much faster than at&t????

    Am I sane??!?!?!?

    • no

      tmobile’s HSPA+ is faster than Att’s

    • Richard Yarrell

      Yes you are very sane. Tmobile and it’s HSPA PLUS 42MPS network is much faster than At&t hspa plus network.

      • squiddy20

        Yay! Richard can parrot what everyone else has already said without ever bringing anything new or insightful!

  • Pleirosei

    This phone is beastin’ it, for real.

  • Wilson Lara

    No LTE was never a deal breaker for me. HSPA+ is faster than LTE in my area anyway.
    Can’t wait to see the full potential of T-Mobile’s Network.

  • poler166

    Does solavei work on HSPA+ 42? just wondering I understand that they work on t mobile

  • ohhhh man

    im debating it right now nexus 4 vs the note 2 i want a phone that would last for a good while hspa+42 is the alternative to lte its just as fast and its a battery saver which is a good thing and its beasting a qualcomm S4 pro krait so i might just get this over the note 2.

  • OnIn2

    Any of you spec wizards know about the HSPA+ specs for this phone.

    If HSAP+ 42/21 are not available does it fall back to 3G or down to 2G. My current LG only displays 4G/2G/E


    • KG

      I don’t know about what the phone indicates, but from a Tmo network perspective, I believe it falls back to 3g if there is no HSPA+ in the area you are in, and if there is no 3g even, then it falls back to EDGE/2G…

      I believe the LG indicator of 2G should really be 3G since from what I recall, Edge=2G

  • Scott

    So, if you go with Straight Talk, which has ability to work on either Tmo or AT&T, can you just try the Tmo sim card one month and then try the ATT one next to see which is better reception/faster?

  • stenzor

    No LTE = No problem for me.. I was going to buy this phone regardless. LTE would be nice, yes, but the current speeds don’t bother me. I can stream HD youtube video without stutter, and same with all my music stored on Google music. It’s just like my internet service at home.. yes there are better packages that I can choose from.. some are much much faster than my current 21mbit connection, but I’m perfectly fine with what I have for now.

  • rr2009

    I was surprised about HPSA+21 announcement. HPSA+42 sounds more reasonable now-a-days.

  • revs

    WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO i was set on note 2 but way to expensive hspa 42 is just as good if not better than lte in my area ! wooooooooooo t mobile
    wooooo google for an afforable beast!

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  • Lee Vang

    does anyone know the speed of ATT H+ compare to TMobile H+? I’m on ATT and in develop part of ATT 4G LTE, so will N4 get higher speed or still the same?