Oct 13 AT 8:43 PM Taylor Wimberly 26 Comments

I’ll be back, this is my last Terminator post for awhile

So for the past couple of months I’ve been doing all the heavy lifting on the Terminator (Tegra 2 phone) story and now I think it’s time to pass the ball to someone else and let them have fun doing the digging for awhile.

This post is meant to recap everything I have learned and provide a few new tips so that all you wannabe ninjas can go out and unearth some new info. Until I have some hard evidence to provide you (like pics or video), I promise I will stop pumping this story until something big breaks.

For starters, Terminator is not the name of any actual product. It was a nickname that came up when we shortened Tegra 2 to just T2. I believe someone in the comments made the T2 to Terminator connection and I thought it fit the whole Droid theme that Verizon uses so we just ran with it. Plus you have to admit it’s just a really cool name, so maybe Verizon will pay James Cameron to license it one day.

I don’t know exactly when it first started, but I became obsessed with getting my hands on a dual-core phone when I heard they were coming in late 2010. For awhile it actually looked like something would drop before Christmas, but I soon realized I would have to wait until 2011 to experience the next generation of smartphones.

LG was the first handset maker to officially announce a dual-core Tegra 2 phone last month and they claimed it was arriving in Q4. Since that time nothing has been announced and their Android tablet from the same press release was delayed so I don’t have any faith in that phone.

Then I learned Motorola was also working on a dual-core Tegra 2 phone. I had my doubts at first, but then I was lucky enough to speak with Motorola Co-CEO Sanjay Jha and he actually confirmed it was real and he hoped to launch it in early 2011.

Originally I was lead to believe the Motorola Tegra 2 phone would be a Verizon exclusive, but later I learned it was headed to multiple carriers and AT&T would be the first to launch it.

After doing some more research and talking with all my contacts I know AT&T’s version of the Motorola Tegra 2 phone is codenamed Olympus and has the model number MB860. There is still a version of this phone in the works for Verizon, but I have heard of no other carriers specifically mentioned in reference to this device.

I know a lot of sites are saying Everest and Olympus are both Android tablets that Motorola is working on, but that info is incorrect. Everest (or Stingray) is the 10.1 inch tablet that Google and Motorola are working on for Verizon and Olympus is most definitely a phone for AT&T.

When it comes to specs for the Motorola Tegra 2 phone, there are not a lot of solid details. Based on conversations I’ve had with several different sources who claim they saw the phone, it will be a touch-only model that has a display between 3.7-4.3 inches, feature a dual-core 1 GHz Tegra 2 processor, and include a front-facing camera.

The Clues

If you want to go searching for more information on this phone, the key is the model number MB860. It has been spotted on several certification sites including the Bluetooth SIG, the Wi-Fi Alliance, and the UPnP Forum. The MB860 was also listed in the Tweetdeck report that was published this week.

Several Motorola employees are already testing the MB860 and have uploaded pictures taken with it to Picasa. Some of the pics are dated October 1st, which tells you how recently this device went out. One of the pics was actually taken at Garden Fresh Market located in Chicago, just down the road from Motorola’s global headquarters. If you live in the Chicago area, keep an eye out for business men cradling an odd phone you have never seen before.

That’s it folks

Unless someone sends me some pics or hard evidence, that’s all I have to say on this topic for now. We expect the phone to be announced at CES in Las Vegas on January 5th, 2011.

p.s. I got a few non-Motorola, non-Tegra devices that have caught my attention recently. Be on the lookout for some exciting new topics in the coming weeks.

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  • http://Website Gee

    I’m probably going to wait until the summer for a upgrade… The EVO’s GPU is dated but unless Gingerbread runs like crap, I’m staying put.

    I wonder though: how does the Tegra 2 compare to the Adreno 205 and the Adreno 220 which is a possibility on next year’s dual core Snapdragon? The 220 is suppose to be 2x as fast as the 205 and that’s already just as fast if not faster than the hummingbird’s GPU. Does the Tegra 2 compete with today’s GPU’s or next year’s?

    • http://androidandme.com Taylor Wimberly

      That is the burning question most of us want to know. Until a Tegra 2 phone comes out, I am unable to answer that yet.

    • http://Website OpenMitko

      As far as I know T2 uses NVIDIA’s own developed GPU which is not very impressive, I suspect it will compete with PowerVP SXG540. The real deal in T2 is the dual core processor.
      I’m really more exited of Samsung’s project ORION which will be also based on ARM CortexA9.

  • http://Website KidPhat

    Shoot, I miss the days I used to work for Motorola and got to see these phone ahead of time. Unfortunately, there weren’t any interesting phone back then. *sigh*

  • http://Website Hans

    To be honest, I think it’s good that you’re gonna stop talking about the T2. It’s been hyped up quite a bit here, I wish it will actually live up to the hype. Sometimes it can be best to have a phone be mysterious so when it comes out, we’ll be genuinely surprised and awed.

    • http://Website UniqueNate

      I also agree with that because when you expect so much then it’s kind of like ugh…
      Kind of like the Droid X. Everyone thought that was a Nexus2 in it’s early leaks. Not saying the Droid X didn’t do good but it was over hyped and now it’s silent quick.

  • http://Website UniqueNate

    I believe ya and it almost sounds like the Supersonic story. This is how the Supersonic came about and next thing you know it was real.
    I just hope it is built to it’s full potential and not over hyped. Just saying it has Tegra 2, everybody would assume this phone has amazing specs and performance. Like I said before in another post on this topic, I hope they put in some serious work and amazing quality. This should be a assembly line phone that shouldn’t have to have a successor until a year later. True awesome phones that set the bar for next generation shouldn’t have successors within the same year. Only other phones to compete. Make it hard for other makers to overthrow it. Make it to where the only way it can be better is waiting on the next generation technology. But waiting on that will make carriers and handset makers miss out. So they would have to compete and not topple it.

    Personally I hope the Gingerbread UI is amazing. I love me some Android, but Windows Phones have caught my attention. I love the UI. I love the way the Samsung Focus 7 phone looks. I want something like that but with a keyboard and on 4G technology with a keyboard. It already looks like a Epic 4G without the keyboard(obviously I’m with Sprint). That UI is tweaked down to the last pixel. It runs so smooth and fluid. Oh and I know the 7 Pro is coming but I want something sexier.

    I have to see Gingerbread on a awesome phone from the hardware and sexy design down to the last pixel. Then I would rather wait for a 4G Flagship Windows 7 Phone with Tegra to come for me to chose. I don’t want to be fast then I regret.

  • http://Website DannyJedi

    Gentleman..
    The real question here is what is the phone number of the cute girl playing college volleyball?

    • http://androidandme.com Taylor Wimberly

      Looks like David read our post. He now removed his pics or made them private.

  • http://Website Rox

    Should I buy the Samsung Captivate, which has really caught my eye, or wait until this phone comes out? Feels like a long wait however……

    • http://androidandme.com Taylor Wimberly

      The Samsung Captivate is one of my favorite Android phones that is out right now. About the only negative thing I could say is it still has Android 2.1, but Samsung is supposed to update it later this year.

    • http://Website Nammy

      The Captivate is an awesome phone, its among the best of the Android phones from my experience with both it and the Evo and the DroidX

      Also realize that when the T2 comes out its going to be very pricey for the first 6-8 months. I would wait a month until Thanksgiving when the Captivate should be going on sale (or just look online now). The T2 sounds like a good phone but I don’t know if its worth $200 more then the Captivate and isn’t coming out for another 6 months or so

  • http://Website Tony

    this is funny because my buddy and i think that google will be the next cyberdine… they know EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING…. and being good disciples, we have our cyberdine locators (aka android devices) in our pockets, ready for them to find us and take us out!…

  • http://Website Yamisamo

    Kidphat, you seem to be a whack sauce kid… I kind of understand your pain, but motorola, is pretty much dead.. Droid… psh…

    • http://Website Hans

      Back to your cave, troll.

      • http://Website KidPhat Fails

        Why are you hating? Its not a troll to state that, i predict the Droid to Fail, Due to Motorolas whack attempts of rebuilding their cellphone industry after their Post RAZR faliures, i don’t expect the Droid to be any better. Sure it has Dual Core, but don’t you expect a horrible battery life? I do…

  • AceoStar

    I’ll be pretty upset if this ends up being a 3.7″ phone. I’m holding off on my new contract until January, and I want nothing less than 4″. I would also be disappointed if it ends up not being 4G, since it’ll be the phone that holds me over for at least 2 years. I know its all about the sales game, but the waiting kills. :p

    • http://Website Devesh

      Considering the rumors about Gingerbread really being designed for Android tablets…I’m expecting this phone to be at least 4″. I’ll be pretty disappointed if it’s not :\

  • http://Website 2C

    I really hope that these specs are right. FFC, Tegra 2, 4.3″ display, 16gb internal memory & stock Gingerbread. If it runs on T-Mobile’s HSPA+ network then I’ll drop my Nexus One in a heartbeat. Here’s to the future. And if this fails there’s always the HTC Glacier.

  • http://Website MotoFail

    Knowing motofail… this phone will probably come out with motoblur and android 1.5, and never gonna see any updates.

  • http://Website CGH

    Hey Androidandme, i love this website more after there were increasing of Motorola breaking news!

    Good Job! Keep it coming!
    I will be waiting for you to be coming with BREAKING Moto News :)

    Cheers!

  • http://Website base64

    Tegra 2 is useless for me. The chip isn’t powerfull enough to play High profile 1080p videos. I think i have to wait for samsungs orion processor :(. Well done Nvidia -.-

  • http://Website Alex Lawson

    Is this the Terminator or another phone – currently an AT&T user (regrettingly) and looking for some Android magic.. I don’t know what Android phones are out or what they look like, but understand the ones for AT&T suck. Hence my interest in the “Terminator.”

    http://mobile.thethirdmedia.com/Article/picview257659c65p1.html

  1. GeeGuest 5 years ago

    I’m probably going to wait until the summer for a upgrade… The EVO’s GPU is dated but unless Gingerbread runs like crap, I’m staying put.

    I wonder though: how does the Tegra 2 compare to the Adreno 205 and the Adreno 220 which is a possibility on next year’s dual core Snapdragon? The 220 is suppose to be 2x as fast as the 205 and that’s already just as fast if not faster than the hummingbird’s GPU. Does the Tegra 2 compete with today’s GPU’s or next year’s?

    • That is the burning question most of us want to know. Until a Tegra 2 phone comes out, I am unable to answer that yet.

    • OpenMitkoGuest 5 years ago

      As far as I know T2 uses NVIDIA’s own developed GPU which is not very impressive, I suspect it will compete with PowerVP SXG540. The real deal in T2 is the dual core processor.
      I’m really more exited of Samsung’s project ORION which will be also based on ARM CortexA9.

  2. KidPhatGuest 5 years ago

    Shoot, I miss the days I used to work for Motorola and got to see these phone ahead of time. Unfortunately, there weren’t any interesting phone back then. *sigh*

  3. HansGuest 5 years ago

    To be honest, I think it’s good that you’re gonna stop talking about the T2. It’s been hyped up quite a bit here, I wish it will actually live up to the hype. Sometimes it can be best to have a phone be mysterious so when it comes out, we’ll be genuinely surprised and awed.

    • UniqueNateGuest 5 years ago

      I also agree with that because when you expect so much then it’s kind of like ugh…
      Kind of like the Droid X. Everyone thought that was a Nexus2 in it’s early leaks. Not saying the Droid X didn’t do good but it was over hyped and now it’s silent quick.

  4. UniqueNateGuest 5 years ago

    I believe ya and it almost sounds like the Supersonic story. This is how the Supersonic came about and next thing you know it was real.
    I just hope it is built to it’s full potential and not over hyped. Just saying it has Tegra 2, everybody would assume this phone has amazing specs and performance. Like I said before in another post on this topic, I hope they put in some serious work and amazing quality. This should be a assembly line phone that shouldn’t have to have a successor until a year later. True awesome phones that set the bar for next generation shouldn’t have successors within the same year. Only other phones to compete. Make it hard for other makers to overthrow it. Make it to where the only way it can be better is waiting on the next generation technology. But waiting on that will make carriers and handset makers miss out. So they would have to compete and not topple it.

    Personally I hope the Gingerbread UI is amazing. I love me some Android, but Windows Phones have caught my attention. I love the UI. I love the way the Samsung Focus 7 phone looks. I want something like that but with a keyboard and on 4G technology with a keyboard. It already looks like a Epic 4G without the keyboard(obviously I’m with Sprint). That UI is tweaked down to the last pixel. It runs so smooth and fluid. Oh and I know the 7 Pro is coming but I want something sexier.

    I have to see Gingerbread on a awesome phone from the hardware and sexy design down to the last pixel. Then I would rather wait for a 4G Flagship Windows 7 Phone with Tegra to come for me to chose. I don’t want to be fast then I regret.

  5. DannyJediGuest 5 years ago

    Gentleman..
    The real question here is what is the phone number of the cute girl playing college volleyball?

  6. RoxGuest 5 years ago

    Should I buy the Samsung Captivate, which has really caught my eye, or wait until this phone comes out? Feels like a long wait however……

    • The Samsung Captivate is one of my favorite Android phones that is out right now. About the only negative thing I could say is it still has Android 2.1, but Samsung is supposed to update it later this year.

    • NammyGuest 5 years ago

      The Captivate is an awesome phone, its among the best of the Android phones from my experience with both it and the Evo and the DroidX

      Also realize that when the T2 comes out its going to be very pricey for the first 6-8 months. I would wait a month until Thanksgiving when the Captivate should be going on sale (or just look online now). The T2 sounds like a good phone but I don’t know if its worth $200 more then the Captivate and isn’t coming out for another 6 months or so

  7. TonyGuest 5 years ago

    this is funny because my buddy and i think that google will be the next cyberdine… they know EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING…. and being good disciples, we have our cyberdine locators (aka android devices) in our pockets, ready for them to find us and take us out!…

  8. YamisamoGuest 5 years ago

    Kidphat, you seem to be a whack sauce kid… I kind of understand your pain, but motorola, is pretty much dead.. Droid… psh…

    • HansGuest 5 years ago

      Back to your cave, troll.

      • KidPhat FailsGuest 5 years ago

        Why are you hating? Its not a troll to state that, i predict the Droid to Fail, Due to Motorolas whack attempts of rebuilding their cellphone industry after their Post RAZR faliures, i don’t expect the Droid to be any better. Sure it has Dual Core, but don’t you expect a horrible battery life? I do…

  9. I’ll be pretty upset if this ends up being a 3.7″ phone. I’m holding off on my new contract until January, and I want nothing less than 4″. I would also be disappointed if it ends up not being 4G, since it’ll be the phone that holds me over for at least 2 years. I know its all about the sales game, but the waiting kills. :p

    • DeveshGuest 5 years ago

      Considering the rumors about Gingerbread really being designed for Android tablets…I’m expecting this phone to be at least 4″. I’ll be pretty disappointed if it’s not :\

  10. 2CGuest 5 years ago

    I really hope that these specs are right. FFC, Tegra 2, 4.3″ display, 16gb internal memory & stock Gingerbread. If it runs on T-Mobile’s HSPA+ network then I’ll drop my Nexus One in a heartbeat. Here’s to the future. And if this fails there’s always the HTC Glacier.

  11. MotoFailGuest 5 years ago

    Knowing motofail… this phone will probably come out with motoblur and android 1.5, and never gonna see any updates.

  12. CGHGuest 5 years ago

    Hey Androidandme, i love this website more after there were increasing of Motorola breaking news!

    Good Job! Keep it coming!
    I will be waiting for you to be coming with BREAKING Moto News :)

    Cheers!

  13. base64Guest 5 years ago

    Tegra 2 is useless for me. The chip isn’t powerfull enough to play High profile 1080p videos. I think i have to wait for samsungs orion processor :(. Well done Nvidia -.-

  14. Alex LawsonGuest 5 years ago

    Is this the Terminator or another phone – currently an AT&T user (regrettingly) and looking for some Android magic.. I don’t know what Android phones are out or what they look like, but understand the ones for AT&T suck. Hence my interest in the “Terminator.”

    http://mobile.thethirdmedia.com/Article/picview257659c65p1.html