Nov 17 AT 8:46 PM Taylor Wimberly 23 Comments

Verizon now has 4G service, AT&T doesn’t #4Gwars

T-Mobile might have America’s Largest 4G Network, but Verizon now has The Fastest 4G Network in America, according to new signage showing up in Verizon retail stores.

We already know that Verizon 4G LTE is coming to 38 markets this year, but the nation’s largest carrier will only have USB modems for the holidays and we are not expecting LTE handsets till 2011.

Verizon’s LTE netwok should offer real world performance of download speeds at 5-12 Mbps and upload speeds of 2-5 Mbps. I’ve seen quite a few T-Mobile 4G speed tests that show actual download speeds over 10 Mbps, but the upload speeds normally top off around 2 Mbps.

The funny thing in these #4Gwars remains the fact that ITU’s Radiocommunication Sector has already established that no current wireless technology which is being adopted by any carrier meets the actual 4G definition, but that hasn’t stopped the carriers from adopting the phrase.

Does anyone have a problem with the carriers continuing to use the marketing term “4G” or should they be allowed to do whatever they want. I think I smell some class action lawsuits coming up for false advertising.

Via: Android Central

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  • jayzeroeee

    Stop using hashtags in blog posts. This is not Twitter.

  • http://Website alex

    I think i smell that too. No wait i also smell Ios, getting their a** kicked buy android :D

  • http://Website Deter

    In the case of Sprint and Verizon I can see why they use the term 4G to advertise the fourth generation on their networks like the iPhone 3G is called that because it was the 3rd generation iPhone not because of the network it used. In the cases of ATT and T Mobile retweeking their 3G to be a little faster and calling it 4G seems like a joke when we know that NONE of the networks are fast enough to be true 4G.

    • Tebbe

      The iPhone 3g was the second iPhone. The 3g in the name was because of the network.

  • http://Website Richard

    Actually I smell….VERIZON….AT&T….AND T-MOBILE ALL GETTING THERE BUTTS KICKED BY SPRINT WHO HAS THE BETTER PLANS AND BEST 4G DEVICES ON THE MARKET…AND WE AIN’T TALKING NO 3G DROID X OR SILLY DROID 2 OR NO PATHETIC IPHONE 4 OR ANY OTHER SILLY CELLPHONES ON AT&T…NOT TO MENTION THAT FAKE G2 AND MYTOUCH 4G ON T-MOBILE….EVO READY TO SLAP EM ALL DOWN

    • Virtue

      Actually, I’d really like the Evo to try and “slap down” the myTouch 4G or the Galaxy S even because First Gen Snapdragon is a joke vs Second Gen Snapdragon and Hummingbird. Get with the times, the Evo is not the king of the hill anymore and with the wave of dual-core phones in 2011, it will be that much further behind.

      • http://Website UMA Fan

        Yeah, the EVO is basically the HD2 running Android with a front facing camera and kick-stand slapped on. The EVO which showed much promise when first revealed, will unfortunately be left in the dust in the future in terms of development because the dedicated GPU on it just sucks… if existent at all.

        The Nexus One has that same old generation snapdragon as those phones but is ultimately the better android phone over the Evo because of its Amoled display and stock Android.

        The G2 has a SLCD display, not as good as amoled, but better than the displays on the EVO and HD2 even though it’s smaller. Plus, the G2 has the newer Snapdragon processor which is more power efficient than the one on the EVO and much more powerful…. and, lets not forget: a dedicated GPU almost on par with the Hummingbird on the Galaxy S.

  • http://Website Haggie

    Misuse and abuse of “4G” is hardly surprising from the companies that think it is acceptable to use the word “Unlimited” and then list all of the limits in the fine print at the bottom of the ad…

    “Unlimited 4G*”

    *Limited to 5GB of download. Not actual 4G.

  • http://Website Kyle K

    Sorry Verizon, your LTE does not = 4G. Marketing fail.

    • http://Website dj

      When Verizon says 5 to 12 mb per second it is real life speeds. LTE has been adopted by 85 percent of the globe. I’m a T-Mobile customer and very rarely here in Phoenix do I even get 5mb and coverage is spotty at best. Wimax sucks. Verizon has more coverage than Sprint and how long has Wimax been available for ? The evo is nice but T-Mobile has way better Android selection and so does Verizon for that matter

      • http://Website Galen20K

        Well I’m a T-Mobile customer in Michigan and I regularly get 6 to 10 mbps on my myTouch 4G and even before that I was getting 4 to 6mbps on my Nexus One which isn’t even an HSPA+ device. T-Mobile is aces for me in my book.

  • http://Website arban

    Richard u are wrong cause that g2 can slap evo when it comes to speed

  • ayocuz

    So what when and if they ever reach true 4g speeds. What will they call it 5 maybe 6g lol’..’….’

    • http://Website alex

      8g to be exact. its seems to me that every time down speed reaches 20mb more, they would upgrade the name
      20mb/s=4g
      40=5g
      60=6g
      80=7g
      100=true 4g=8g

  • http://Website adryan

    i might try suing them saying ” you promised me 4G speeds so i want to be able to download at 100mbps.” No i dont think they should be to do what they want. The only reason they can away with it right now is cause majority of americans dont know anyhing about this and accept it for what it is

  • http://plankhead.com Zacqary Adam Green

    They can call it 47G for all I care, but if there’s a class action lawsuit, I will gladly accept some of the payout. Money is money.

  • http://Website Paul Atreides

    LOL @ Richard getting everybodies panties in a bunch. I want to see what phone will sell the most during the holidays. Let the games begin :)

  • http://Website BUbbles

    I like t mobile usa the best. So far they have proved to me tp be faster. My brother has the evo and my wife has mytouch 4g. The mytouch beats his evo in speedtests eberytime. All of them are a joke due to none offer true 4g speeds.

  • http://Website Mike

    BFD if they wanna call it 4G. If its significantly faster than 3G they are fine to call it 4G in my book.

  • http://Website Anon

    Not that i care but LTE is the next generation of 3g so yes verizon is actually marketing this the right way. LTE “IS” 4G Verizon is so far the only carrier that is actually calling it what it really is. Look it up, LTE is the next generation step up from 3g so ummmmmmm yea Verizon is right.

  • http://Website Skallaren

    I think it’s so funny when all these US carriers call their networks 4G when they rarely reaches speeds over 10mbit. Here in Sweden we reach that with our 3G and with our 4G we can max out about 80mbit ;) And that’s LTE btw.

  • http://Website Roach

    Sprint and Verizon will just need a simple firmware to reach 4G speeds, T-Mo on the other hand. It’ll never happen with their network.
    LTE & WiMax phones are 4G phones on a 4G network that aren’t being used to their potential yet.

  • http://Website gabriel

    CHICAGO – 4G World – Everyone knows that AT&T Inc. (NYSE: T) is planning to move to Long Term Evolution (LTE) later this year, but is the operator also planning a further upgrade of its 3G network in 2011.

    In his keynote here, David Haight, VP of business development at AT&T’s Emerging Devices Organization, said that if users roam off LTE, they would go to faster 3G in 2011. “The good news is that you’re going to fall back to HSPA+, so you’re falling back to 14.4 megabits, not 7.2 or 3.6,” Haight told the crowd. (See 4G World: AT&T Learns Lessons From iPad.)

    So far, AT&T has only said that it will deploy the earlier 14.4Mbit/s upgrade by the end of 2010, revealing nothing about a 21Mbit/s upgrade in 2011. So we asked AT&T what the official word on this was.

    “HSPA+ technology has a theoretical maximum speed of 21Mbps,” a spokeswoman said, in an email reply to questions. “WE HAVE NOT BEGUN DEPLOYING THE TECHNOLOGY AT THIS TIME”,she said that ONLY last October — then now magically they are 4G (See AT&T Plots Widescale HSPA+ Rollout .)

    Nonetheless, if AT&T is interested in keeping up with GSM rival T-Mobile then HSPA+ is a logical progression. T-Mobile is currently rolling out a 21Mbit/s upgrade for over 100 cities now; it currently has the speed boost running in 100+ cities in the US. They proud of announcing every city that they lit up for 21 hspa+ but AT&T cannot do that because they are just putting 7.2 & 14.4…

    The average download speeds offered on 21Mbit/s HSPA+ are in the 5 to 8 Mbit/s range, but we seen Max. of 12.5Mbps in Samsung Galaxy S 4G in some city with 3Mbps upload. (See T-Mobile’s HSPA+ Rivals Clearwire, US LTE Speeds.)

    When we are in Austin,Texas for ANDROID FESTIVAL, TMobile executives said that 42Mbps hspa+ will be available by last week of MARCH or 1st week of APRIL – 2011 then AT&T will start to deploy 21Mbps hspa+ that time… LATE IN THE GAME!!!

    I called a friend who is engineer in AT&T MOBILITY DEPT. (15 years) & he said to me that THEY STILL USE THE 7.2Mbps & SOME city with 14.4Mbps HSPA, NOT YET THE 21 HSPA+ (maybe they will start last week of February or 1st week of March, he said in SOME CITIES NOT 100+ LIKE TMOBILE) So the hspa that AT&T saying that will cover more is the 7.2 & 14.4 NOT THE 21 HSPA+…

    BEST LIAR OF ALL TIME & ALWAYS CRYING — AT&T…

  1. Stop using hashtags in blog posts. This is not Twitter.

  2. alexGuest 4 years ago

    I think i smell that too. No wait i also smell Ios, getting their a** kicked buy android :D

  3. DeterGuest 4 years ago

    In the case of Sprint and Verizon I can see why they use the term 4G to advertise the fourth generation on their networks like the iPhone 3G is called that because it was the 3rd generation iPhone not because of the network it used. In the cases of ATT and T Mobile retweeking their 3G to be a little faster and calling it 4G seems like a joke when we know that NONE of the networks are fast enough to be true 4G.

  4. RichardGuest 4 years ago

    Actually I smell….VERIZON….AT&T….AND T-MOBILE ALL GETTING THERE BUTTS KICKED BY SPRINT WHO HAS THE BETTER PLANS AND BEST 4G DEVICES ON THE MARKET…AND WE AIN’T TALKING NO 3G DROID X OR SILLY DROID 2 OR NO PATHETIC IPHONE 4 OR ANY OTHER SILLY CELLPHONES ON AT&T…NOT TO MENTION THAT FAKE G2 AND MYTOUCH 4G ON T-MOBILE….EVO READY TO SLAP EM ALL DOWN

    • Actually, I’d really like the Evo to try and “slap down” the myTouch 4G or the Galaxy S even because First Gen Snapdragon is a joke vs Second Gen Snapdragon and Hummingbird. Get with the times, the Evo is not the king of the hill anymore and with the wave of dual-core phones in 2011, it will be that much further behind.

      • UMA FanGuest 4 years ago

        Yeah, the EVO is basically the HD2 running Android with a front facing camera and kick-stand slapped on. The EVO which showed much promise when first revealed, will unfortunately be left in the dust in the future in terms of development because the dedicated GPU on it just sucks… if existent at all.

        The Nexus One has that same old generation snapdragon as those phones but is ultimately the better android phone over the Evo because of its Amoled display and stock Android.

        The G2 has a SLCD display, not as good as amoled, but better than the displays on the EVO and HD2 even though it’s smaller. Plus, the G2 has the newer Snapdragon processor which is more power efficient than the one on the EVO and much more powerful…. and, lets not forget: a dedicated GPU almost on par with the Hummingbird on the Galaxy S.

  5. HaggieGuest 4 years ago

    Misuse and abuse of “4G” is hardly surprising from the companies that think it is acceptable to use the word “Unlimited” and then list all of the limits in the fine print at the bottom of the ad…

    “Unlimited 4G*”

    *Limited to 5GB of download. Not actual 4G.

  6. Kyle KGuest 4 years ago

    Sorry Verizon, your LTE does not = 4G. Marketing fail.

    • djGuest 4 years ago

      When Verizon says 5 to 12 mb per second it is real life speeds. LTE has been adopted by 85 percent of the globe. I’m a T-Mobile customer and very rarely here in Phoenix do I even get 5mb and coverage is spotty at best. Wimax sucks. Verizon has more coverage than Sprint and how long has Wimax been available for ? The evo is nice but T-Mobile has way better Android selection and so does Verizon for that matter

      • Galen20KGuest 4 years ago

        Well I’m a T-Mobile customer in Michigan and I regularly get 6 to 10 mbps on my myTouch 4G and even before that I was getting 4 to 6mbps on my Nexus One which isn’t even an HSPA+ device. T-Mobile is aces for me in my book.

  7. arbanGuest 4 years ago

    Richard u are wrong cause that g2 can slap evo when it comes to speed

  8. So what when and if they ever reach true 4g speeds. What will they call it 5 maybe 6g lol’..’….’

    • alexGuest 4 years ago

      8g to be exact. its seems to me that every time down speed reaches 20mb more, they would upgrade the name
      20mb/s=4g
      40=5g
      60=6g
      80=7g
      100=true 4g=8g

  9. adryanGuest 4 years ago

    i might try suing them saying ” you promised me 4G speeds so i want to be able to download at 100mbps.” No i dont think they should be to do what they want. The only reason they can away with it right now is cause majority of americans dont know anyhing about this and accept it for what it is

  10. They can call it 47G for all I care, but if there’s a class action lawsuit, I will gladly accept some of the payout. Money is money.

  11. Paul AtreidesGuest 4 years ago

    LOL @ Richard getting everybodies panties in a bunch. I want to see what phone will sell the most during the holidays. Let the games begin :)

  12. BUbblesGuest 4 years ago

    I like t mobile usa the best. So far they have proved to me tp be faster. My brother has the evo and my wife has mytouch 4g. The mytouch beats his evo in speedtests eberytime. All of them are a joke due to none offer true 4g speeds.

  13. MikeGuest 4 years ago

    BFD if they wanna call it 4G. If its significantly faster than 3G they are fine to call it 4G in my book.

  14. AnonGuest 4 years ago

    Not that i care but LTE is the next generation of 3g so yes verizon is actually marketing this the right way. LTE “IS” 4G Verizon is so far the only carrier that is actually calling it what it really is. Look it up, LTE is the next generation step up from 3g so ummmmmmm yea Verizon is right.

  15. SkallarenGuest 4 years ago

    I think it’s so funny when all these US carriers call their networks 4G when they rarely reaches speeds over 10mbit. Here in Sweden we reach that with our 3G and with our 4G we can max out about 80mbit ;) And that’s LTE btw.

  16. RoachGuest 4 years ago

    Sprint and Verizon will just need a simple firmware to reach 4G speeds, T-Mo on the other hand. It’ll never happen with their network.
    LTE & WiMax phones are 4G phones on a 4G network that aren’t being used to their potential yet.

  17. gabrielGuest 4 years ago

    CHICAGO – 4G World – Everyone knows that AT&T Inc. (NYSE: T) is planning to move to Long Term Evolution (LTE) later this year, but is the operator also planning a further upgrade of its 3G network in 2011.

    In his keynote here, David Haight, VP of business development at AT&T’s Emerging Devices Organization, said that if users roam off LTE, they would go to faster 3G in 2011. “The good news is that you’re going to fall back to HSPA+, so you’re falling back to 14.4 megabits, not 7.2 or 3.6,” Haight told the crowd. (See 4G World: AT&T Learns Lessons From iPad.)

    So far, AT&T has only said that it will deploy the earlier 14.4Mbit/s upgrade by the end of 2010, revealing nothing about a 21Mbit/s upgrade in 2011. So we asked AT&T what the official word on this was.

    “HSPA+ technology has a theoretical maximum speed of 21Mbps,” a spokeswoman said, in an email reply to questions. “WE HAVE NOT BEGUN DEPLOYING THE TECHNOLOGY AT THIS TIME”,she said that ONLY last October — then now magically they are 4G (See AT&T Plots Widescale HSPA+ Rollout .)

    Nonetheless, if AT&T is interested in keeping up with GSM rival T-Mobile then HSPA+ is a logical progression. T-Mobile is currently rolling out a 21Mbit/s upgrade for over 100 cities now; it currently has the speed boost running in 100+ cities in the US. They proud of announcing every city that they lit up for 21 hspa+ but AT&T cannot do that because they are just putting 7.2 & 14.4…

    The average download speeds offered on 21Mbit/s HSPA+ are in the 5 to 8 Mbit/s range, but we seen Max. of 12.5Mbps in Samsung Galaxy S 4G in some city with 3Mbps upload. (See T-Mobile’s HSPA+ Rivals Clearwire, US LTE Speeds.)

    When we are in Austin,Texas for ANDROID FESTIVAL, TMobile executives said that 42Mbps hspa+ will be available by last week of MARCH or 1st week of APRIL – 2011 then AT&T will start to deploy 21Mbps hspa+ that time… LATE IN THE GAME!!!

    I called a friend who is engineer in AT&T MOBILITY DEPT. (15 years) & he said to me that THEY STILL USE THE 7.2Mbps & SOME city with 14.4Mbps HSPA, NOT YET THE 21 HSPA+ (maybe they will start last week of February or 1st week of March, he said in SOME CITIES NOT 100+ LIKE TMOBILE) So the hspa that AT&T saying that will cover more is the 7.2 & 14.4 NOT THE 21 HSPA+…

    BEST LIAR OF ALL TIME & ALWAYS CRYING — AT&T…