Aug 01 AT 8:06 AM Nick Gray 93 Comments

Notification bar ads could threaten your personal space

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Since the very first Android apps made their debut on the Android Market, Android users have had to put up with in-app advertisements. Over nearly three years, we’ve seen ads take many sizes and shapes. Standard banner ads, full screen ads between game levels, video clips and even incentivized ads that encourage you to download new apps or third party services in exchange for unlocking new app or game features.  While ads themselves are not evil, the way they’re implemented can cause a lot of frustration for handset users.

We’ve come to terms with the advertisement deployment methods listed above. But what if app developers started putting ads in your notification bar?  SlingLabs offers an SDK for app developers that allows them to quickly and easily add notification bar advertisements in addition to their regular ad placement. SlingLabs claims app developers can achieve click through rates as high as 40% with this type of ad placement, but we have a feeling those high rates won’t last long.

While it’s nice to see SlingLabs thinking of new ways to help developers monetize their application, I have a feeling this type of ad deployment will actually do more harm than good for the developers who actually use it.  You wouldn’t put up with an app on your PC that launched pop-up ads eveyr time you used it, would you? If I started seeing advertisements pop up in my notification bar next to my Tweets, emails and other updates, I’d track down and uninstall the offending app. I wouldn’t even think twice about how good the app was.

We’re sure many of you probably feel the same way. What would your reaction be if you ads started showing up in your notification bar? I know we have quite a few developers who read our site on a regular basis.  Would any of you even consider implementing notification bar advertisements in your apps?

Source: SlingLabs

Nick is a tech enthusiast who has a soft spot for HTC and its devices. He started HTCsource.com (the first HTC blog) back in 2007 and later joined the Android and Me family in the summer of 2010.

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  • http://jim.nuttz.org Jim Nutt

    I’d uninstall anything that stuck an ad in the notification space as quickly as possible. And I’d do it in the market and mark it as defective or malicious. Ads in the notification bar would be just obnoxious.

    • http://www.nexsoftware.net Justin Shapcott

      I agree. It’s one thing to put ads in your own app, but to turn my phone into your personal billboard is certainly not OK.

      • TWiT Commander

        Ads in notifications bar will be cause for total war.

        ANDROIDS ATTACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111one

    • Austin

      That’s called Malware on a computer, and I don’t see why it should be treated or classified any differently on our phones.

      • http://http://isradroid.wordpress.com susuFOX

        Completely agree!

      • Droidrrrr

        that’s called Adware on a computer.

    • http://htcsource.com Nick Gray

      I’m with you on that one, but I have a feeling that it will be hard to find offending apps. Deveopers who do use this ad system will probably set th8ings up for that the first notification bar ad shows up a few days after the app is installed. For those hwo install apps on a daily basis, it would be a bit harder to track down the offending app.

    • LeePlaya

      As soon as I read the headline I was already thinking of uninstall. lol

    • Interpol91

      In app ads are tolerable but once they leave the app and mess with the phone’s look that’s BS!

    • ejansen

      Takes a special kind of asshole to turn my phone into a billboard for shitty apps and services.

    • Cwalden21

      I’d do the same exact thing Jim! It gets to a point where ads need to stay where they are…come on now..in my notification bar? thats pretty ridiculous and whatever app does this…completely removed right then and there with a no star review. point blank.

    • Salo

      I completely agree. It is a complete invasion of privacy. If I go to your doorstep, trying to sell me something you might be annoyed. But what if I’m already inside your house Then I try to sell you something. I’m not sure if I explain myself correctly but…that’s how I see it. Ads in apps is one thing, but on my notification bar? I will IMMEDIATELY uninstall that app, no matter how good I might think it is.

    • Julie

      Problem is knowing how they get this crap on your phone in the first place.

  • http://www.souvey.com Christopher

    As a developer with an ad-supported application, I would never even consider something like this. It seems like a surefire wire way alienate the user base I’ve worked so hard to build up.
    As a user, I would immediately uninstall any application that did this and leave a negative review.

    • http://www.nexsoftware.net Justin Shapcott

      Winning app idea – Scan each app on install, if you locate this SDK, notify the user and offer to initiate an uninstall. Or, Lookout could add this to its things to look out for…

  • http://www.linein.org/blog/ John

    I’m all about the free apps with ads. But I hate apps where the ad takes up the majority of the bottom of the screen. I would much rather have full space for the app with ads in the notification bar.

    If the ad came in the notification bar when the app was running, I’d be ok with it. But if the app was sending me ads while it was closed or even in the background, that’s a big no no in my book.

    • http://www.nexsoftware.net Justin Shapcott

      I can pretty well guarantee that “push” notification ads are going to come whenever the provider sees fit, not only when you are in the app requesting them.

  • dave

    Addfree?

    • http://htcsource.com Nick Gray

      I wish services like Appfree would allow you to segregate certain apps. I don’t want to block all ads, just those that show up in the notification bar.

  • John K

    Instant unistall. I don’t care what app it is.

  • BiGMERF

    It might work with some.. but with the majority I would have to agree it would not. Wow what an invasion of personal space that would be.. I wouldnt even download it if it was the discription but if by chance it would be uninstalled two seconds after install. Any real developer would or should know how negative an impact this would have on there app. I would to as far as to give it one star and a negative review. Even if the qpp was the most amazing creation of all time. My notification bar is my space, dam it. Lol

  • http://goo.gl/tQ2E wwJOSHdo

    Wow. Thank god we have “AdFree For Android”! I am not going to put up with this shit!

    • Cameron Bonde (Vectrex)

      AdFree does devs out of their only income. It isn’t your right to have no ads, that’s payment. Yes, even looking at the ads generates income for the dev, you don’t have to click on it. Fruit Ninja Free has the right idea. No ads on 3g, only wifi, only ads between rounds, not in game.

      • Derek

        It isnt my right? Are you freaking crazy? The first intance of an ad popping up in my notification bar and I’m dropping Android altogether. I always figured that having an OS made by Google (nothing more than the biggest advertiser in the world) would come to this. Having ads all over my phone. Next they’ll have ads popping up as widgets on the home screens.

        • BiGMERF

          OMG Derek…. I will shoot somebody ! LOL

        • http://htcsource.com Nick Gray

          It’s your right to do whatever you like with your phone, but all you’re really doing is hurting the development community. It’s one thing if a dev is pushing ads to your notification bar, but if they are packaged within an app and are not out of control, lets let the dev make a little money for their hard work.

          • counsel

            Let the revs offer paid versions of their apps (many do not) so I can avoid ads. If you have no paid version, I don’t really want your app as it bugs me with ad notifications.

        • Cameron Bonde

          Of course video ads and notification ads are really bad. It isn’t helping anyone, especially devs, to do that, I’m not talking about that. But blocking ads completely when they aren’t obtrusive isn’t fair. The ad blocking apps should at least work PER APP, so you can block stupid apps acting like malware. The apps aren’t free, your ‘payment’ is to look at the ads, like TV. I agree devs SHOULD have ad free in-app purchase or separate versions and wonder why they don’t.

      • Jason

        It’s the bandwidth I pay for — it’s my right to do whatever I want with my bandwidth. Blocking ads certainly does stop revenue from a developer (maybe – the browser may still let them connect/send, but not actually socket block the transfer), but the point is — if a developer wants to resort to AirPush or SlingLabs – I don’t give a shit about their revenue, they’re already being shady with their “gimme your money” mentality — and I’m frankly kind of tired of the liberties these developers take iwth allowing things like video ads – which all add up to taking my bandwidth caps even lower bit by bit.

        • Cameron Bonde

          I agree with all that. It’s normal ads I’m talking about (see above reply). Check Fruit Ninja Free. I like the way they do it (no ads on 3g, none in game)

      • Talesin

        It is our right to do as we like with OUR OWN devices.
        Much like removing logos/badging from a car, or blacking out manufacturers’ marks.

        If a Dev sees too many people using their application and blocking all ads, they need to implement code checking/ensuring delivery of the ad, or else exiting the program, possibly with a ‘quitting out, please disable adblocking to use XYZApp’.

        Personally, I don’t mind the SMALL, STATIC banners at the bottom/out of the way. Once they go full screen width, they get annoying. Once they animate/blink/go larger than that? They’re toast, and/or I’ll find another application.

  • Josh

    There are apps that already do this.
    https://market.android.com/details?id=com.babynames.android

    Check out the reviews of that app.

  • Paul

    They do appear to have a “global opt-out” page here: http://www.slinglabs.com/optout.php
    Of course, they also want your mobile number (and likely your *real* mobile number, if you use Google Voice). But it’s an option.

    • Mark

      Opt out pages are great ways to be opted in to many a fantastic advertising program. They’re about as trustworthy as a smiling politician.

  • http://silverfang77.tumblr.com Silver Fang

    I would uninstall any app that put ads on my notification bar.

  • rafkong

    I would inmediatly delete, remove and/or uninstall any app that does this. I would even go as far as installing an add blocking app or some sort of hack.

    Not only would I do what I mentioned above but also may fully stop buying apps from the Market and instead just uise my phone for basic smartphone functions (email, texting, calling, browsing) and nothing more.

    The apps are the things that make our smartphones as good and great as they are today. Why make the very thing that makes our phones great the very thing that will make our phones horrible to use and live with?

  • Cameron Bonde (Vectrex)

    God damn it. Devs need to make ads unobtrusive or people will just block the lot, doing devs out of usually their only source of income. Yes, just viewing the ad counts even if you don’t click. All games should take the Fruit Ninja Free model so people don’t get pissed off. No ads on 3g, only wifi, only ads between rounds, not in game.

  • http://www.nexsoftware.net Justin Shapcott

    Being honest, I fail to accept video ads as a valid ad system on phones. With limited bandwidth and storage, why should I give up those MBs to ads?

    • http://htcsource.com Nick Gray

      Yeah, video ads just don’t work for regular apps. If it’s a video app where you’re alreayd watching a video stream, it might make sense, but I think a dynamic ad still works a lot better.

  • Roland

    Even if this didn’t disturb you what happens if it was widely adopted? Would I have to scan past eight apps to finally get to my notifications? Seems like it would crumble under it’s own success.

  • Ray

    No chance I’ll tolerate it. Apps with ads are ok. I don’t hate ads. This is invasive. The note bar is too important. Placing an ad amidst the strings of important details such as texts from friends family and coworkers, system information, voicemail, email (which I’ve already been forced to filter for ads known as spam). I agree with the above statement that it is malware. I CHOOSE to view ads or not at a given time within an app by ignoring as I wish, or paying to remove them. That is a fair deal to me. This method is FAR to invasive. I’d remove after reviewing and a low rating, as also mentioned above. As well as NEVER using any app from the dev. I wouldn’t trust them in the future because I would believe they were too greedy and did not respect me and my control over my device. I will not swallow this pill, not even reluctantly. I simply won’t do it.

  • LadyDi

    “If I started seeing advertisements pop up in my notification bar next to my Tweets, emails and other updates, I’d track down and uninstall the offending app. I wouldn’t even think twice about how good the app was.” <- NICK

    I could not have said it better Nick. Even Angry Birds peeves me with that huge bar ad in the game. Thank goodness for Airplane Mode.

  • Mozes

    I’ve uninstalled apps on my Tablet because of the ads. It’s annoying and makes me feel like the app is a virus

  • deckrider

    eBuddy does this occasionally upon sign out

  • Angie Strickland

    Gallery puts ads in your notification bar while the app isn’t running. I’m not a big fan. They happen to be sort of lucky because I really like the app and don’t mind browsing the new wallpapers that come in from time to time, (and that usually seems to be the only reason they put the ad there). However, I still think I would prefer to have the ads somewhere else.

    • Angie Strickland

      Auto Correct got me – I meant Grallery.

      • http://www.anthonydomanico.com Anthony Domanico

        lol those damn ustwo peeps

        • Angie Strickland

          Haha I take it back now that I think about it more. For some reason when I see ‘em my initial reaction is always, “dang it, I want that to go away,” but really I think they are doing it as responsibly as possible. Just because I like a clean notification area, doesn’t necessarily mean I should fault someone for putting notifications there for their app. It definitely would be annoying, though, if it were a random ad for something unrelated to the app.

  • ndokami

    i dont even like adds in my apps so if they were to put them in my notification bar i would uninstall it right away. if became a trend among developers i would consider my options. ads are cool for what they are (giving us apps that you normally have to pay for, for free ) but when they invade your personal space that’s just wrong and i’m totally against that

  • Hollyw0od

    This would actually make me consider switching to WP7 or iOS.

  • http://www.infotainmentempire.com pekosROB

    Yeah, I definitely would not be down for this or any developer at all that would do this.

  • j

    I would leave a 1 star review + write a comment saying there is a virus in the app, then uninstall and never deal with the developer again.

  • http://htcsource.com Nick Gray

    Notification bar ads are definitely evil, but I would like to point out that there are a few ad types that I really enjoy. I love developers who use ads within their apps to promote other apps or services. In exchange for downloading a new app or clicking on a link, these apps then unlock new features within the app. Glu uses this app deployment system very well. They have some of the best games on the Android Market and the best part about them is that they are all FREE.

  • Alex

    I definitely don’t want this, depending on how controlled it is though but I’m against it generally

  • Lulu

    I don’t even like in-app ads. (thanks god we have Adfree) Developers should always make a donation app or ad free version of they are worried about getting a stable income. I always donate or pay for the apps I like

    I will just uninstall the app and never deal with the developer again.

  • http://www.slinglabs.com Rafael Vivas

    Hey Nick – the company I work for is behind SlingLabs. We can definitely appreciate the feedback developers are putting out there. We are working on developing a product that leverages what we’re good at, while letting Android developers continue to do what they’re good at. We have started out of the gate with fundamental protection mechanisms including a very unaggressive notification policy (i.e. max 1/day, opt-outs, advertiser selection policy) after seeing what AirPush went through. We are steadfast in our policy and as an example, already turned down a publisher who insisted on us sending 4 pushes a day with an install base of over 2 million users (over 70 apps). We want to be in this for the long haul and have a true value-add to both developers and advertisers.

    We do feel this notification delivery mechanism is valuable because of 2 things;
    1. This is incremental ad space, Developers do not need to modify their user experience to see a true ROI on their development. Banner ads can be obtrusive.
    2. There is a huge disconnect in monetization on Android (vs. iOS) and we are working for developers to bridge this gap. Even our rev share is 70/30 in favor of developers.

    The thing that DOES make me slightly nervous is SlingLabs is one of about a dozen push networks which could wind up with a user getting tons of notifications, so we would welcome a company like Lookout or other scanning software to have a product that lists services so users can enable/disable things like this that are out of our control.

    Beyond that, SlingLabs plans on offering many non-traditional ad units to developers for those who are not interested in Notifications.

    I’d be happy to accept constructive feedback on how we can work with developers so they are comfortable with the product and our network.

    Thanks for the consideration!

    Rafael

    • http://whysoangrybirds.com mikeyDroid

      Believe it or not these guys have a point.. It’s an ad a day in my notification bar which is dismissable. I find that way less obtrusive than ads running in-app the whole time and using up screen real-estate.

    • http://www.nexsoftware.net Justin Shapcott

      Thanks for the info, Rafael. It’s certainly appreciated.

      As a discussion point, what are your thoughts on whether these higher click-though rates would be organic clicks, or if they would be “accidental” clicks based on the fact that users are not accustomed to having ads in their notification bar?

    • DROID Sam

      While the 1 ad per day sounds good in theory, what happens when I have nearly 100 different apps installed on my device that use this service? I would be getting more ad notifications than I would real ones.

      Do you know if the ad notifications trigger automatically or do users need to user the app that day in order for it to allow a notification bar ad?

      • http://www.nexsoftware.net Justin Shapcott

        That’s an interesting point, and one which was also mentioned by Roland above. How does SlingLabs intend to ensure that a device that may have several apps with this type of notification doesn’t get bombarded as a result? Is it one ad per device per day? One ad per app per device per day?

        • http://www.slinglabs.com Rafael Vivas

          Hey Justin,

          Its one notification per day, per device (and sometimes less depending on advertiser caps, publisher settings and fill rates). Even if you have 100 apps with the SlingLabs technology on it, we will only send one notification to that user. Once a notification is served, we actually tell the service not to check again for another day – so we’re not even using any device resources. The revenue potential from that one advertisement will be shared among all of the apps with SlingLabs on the users device.

          As for clicks being organic, versus accidental, I do realize there would be some users who click to clear the notification (instead of using the clear functionality on the phone) but you should know that while we back out a CPM to our Publishers – most of our Advertiser deals are paid as Cost-Per-Action. It is in our best interest to offer Advertisements which the user finds value in otherwise we wasted our 1-notification/day. We’d rather not serve a notification than generate unauthentic clicks.

          Hope that helps your questions.

          Thanks for the constructive feedback guys!

          • http://www.nexsoftware.net Justin Shapcott

            Cool, thanks again. I appreciate the response. Getting a maximum of one notification per day doesn’t seem unreasonable.

    • Cameron Bonde

      The big risk with this type of ad is people will search out ad blocking software MUCH more often. This isn’t going to work in the long run. They won’t realise WHERE the ads are coming from, especially if they get served without the app actually running.
      My suggestions if you must go ahead with this is on FIRST app run give an option to show in game ads or notification bar ads, not both.
      On the notification ad include the app which is serving it! (I know with multiple apps this gets harder, but just pick one round robin)
      I can’t see this lasting though, people already have downloaded ad blockers MILLIONS of times for pathetic little text based ads. So this and video ads are going to be bad news for devs who do it right.

    • joee

      Rafael, please post the name of your company so I can avoid doing business with them. Thanks.

    • Notification Sacred

      Rafael, while I appreciate your candid response, I disagree vehemently with you viewing the notification area as “Incremental ad space”. This space is Sacred to me. Message ups and consider your company and it’s users bakker from my phone. You will also receive free bad publicity.

      • Notification Sacred

        bakker => banned
        Sorry about that, my autocorrect was on the blink.

  • Paul Atreides

    Google needs to deny apps with this kind of advertising. No app should be able to hijack any part of my device. Keep the ads in your apps, and there should also be some universal standards for the placement and timing of these ads. Definitely should’nt of allowed apps like Word with Friends to incorporate video ads(even though I barely give them a chance to load).

  • RMC

    Very simple actually, No Tolerance Policy!

    ANY type of Notification Bar ads will result in an immediate Avoidance (no installation) or Removal, regardless of the author or app.

  • JGreene

    I think if a app dev. makes a free app with add support they should be forced to make a paid app with no adds, then they can put the adds anywhere they want and if you dont like it buy the paid version.

    • http://www.nexsoftware.net Justin Shapcott

      While I can appreciate the idea behind your comment, I think forcing developers to do things is just as good a way to alienate them as forcing ads into the notification bar is to alienate the user.

      In some cases, ads truly are the most appropriate way to monetize an app.

  • Chris

    As a user, it would annoy me, but I understand devs need to make money or they would not bother releasing apps for our devices. For certain types of apps, this may be the only way to monetize them, short of making them a paid app. If I wanted to pay for just about everything, I’d own an iOS device. But for apps that don’t have an interface to display ads, like homescreen widgets or background services, what other options are there?

    As a dev, I haven’t considered using these types of ads, but I would not rule it out if there wasn’t another way to display ads. There have been times when I had to say I could not make an app free as the app was not meant for the user to be sitting inside of it where I could display ads, so I slap a $0.99 price tag on it. This is at least an option to continue giving away the apps for free.

    As a dev, I don’t really see apps as being “free”, the users think they are free since they are not being charged, but in reality we are selling you ads, and see each new user as an increase in ad requests. Would it bother me that a bunch of users don’t want me to make money off an app so they block ads or uninstall it? Not particularly, don’t really want that type of user base anyway who blocks ads for the sake of blocking them. I take time to make sure my ads don’t cover something important in the interface and are not in a position to be easily mis-clicked, that’s my job as a dev, but if you’ve just going to block them, then go to iOS where you can pay for even the simplest app.

  • http://nickelliott.us Nick

    Not only would I never put up with an app that used such a tactic but I would never implement one in any app I develop. It’s a sure way to piss off your users and suppress your apps penetration. In app ads have been effective (even more so than paid apps) in generating revenue without driving away users. Notification ads would change that dynamic in a heart beat.

  • http://www.totallychristianshow.com wondercoolguy

    This could potentially hurt Android with over running people with ads. I know Devs need to get paid but this to much for the average person and I would also uninstall programs that utlize this.

  • Anil

    Google should ban / restrict such activity in 1st place.

    • joee

      Agreed, for Android devices using the Google version of the OS Google could set a policy that the notification area is sacrosanct.

      The appropriate place for advertisements is in-app, and whenever an ad-free paid version is available for an app I use a lot, I make the purchase to support the developer

      If I know that an app contains ads pushed to the notification bar, I won’t download it. If I install one that’s not marked as containing such, I will immediately uninstall it, will give it a one-star rating, will flag it as containing virus/malware and will post negative comments about the developer. No exceptions, no appeal.

  • Kipp Swanson

    I will not knowingly download or install any app that does this. I will uninstall and one-star review any app that does this and gets by me.

    In app ads are fine. This is not. Are you listening devs?

  • kwills88

    If devs actually do this, it’s basically gonna give iOS a free jab at us by pointing out another flaw with android and it being “open source”…We don’t need iOS to have more ammo against us.

  • SliestDragon

    I think this is the most selfishly obnoxious thing ever. I hope this gets stopped somehow. If not by someone/thing, by poor app sales and downloads…

  • peter pahn

    ” I’d uninstall anything that stuck an ad in the notification space as quickly as possible. And I’d do it in the market and mark it as defective or malicious. Ads in the notification bar would be just obnoxious.”
    I SECOND THAT!

  • aj

    Yes most definitely this would affect my use of an app. But lets hope this nightmare does not become a reality. The only solace i can think of is that cyanogenmod would find a way to block the ads in the notification bar like they did before with in app ads. Lets hope for the best

  • aj

    Oh that could also affect battery life which i really wouldnt want tthat

  • http://blogs4android.com Sanjeev

    There are few paid apps in android market which are earning enough money, also users have found ways to stop ads in the applications. So we are due for some innovative ways to serve the ads (primary business model).

    But if I am using any application and it goes and does something outside of its area or where I would not allow it to work, I would not want to keep that app.

    If there is an menu option for selecting notification bar ads, how many of us would tick that option…..I would say may be 0.

  • Jason

    Doesnt matter how much I like the app (such as TapFish), its getting uninstalled IMMEDIATELY if I see a notification ad from it (and especially if I have to track down that app).

  • sylar

    Yea I don’t care what app it is I’m going to kill it with extreme discrimination.

  • Steve

    Yeah I totally agree that notification bar ads are uncalled for, however I think the mentality of a few people here is totally selfish. People that are claiming it is their right to remove ads from apps, I think it’s just greedy. Developers have 2 ways of making money. Charge you for the app, or place ads so that you don’t HAVE to pay for the app. After all, what is going to fund the development and manpower going into an app? Some apps are solo devs, others are companies, but regardless of who it is, I think if an app is released free without the need for you to pay any money, you should be totally grateful. If a free version wasn’t available, but an add free paid version was, the other alternative is piracy. Is that within your right too? And how about your PC? Some people have mentioned how it’s their right to do whatever they like with the phone they have purchased, so does that mean it’s perfectly fine to pirate loads of music and movies onto your PC, because after all, you paid for and own the PC? Simple minds people, simple minds!

  • Gnejs

    It’s kinda insane how much internet rage there is here. I can understand that people do not want to get spammed in the notification bar but still if you read about SlingShot, it is stated that a maximum of ONE ad per DAY will be generated for a single phone. I am a developer and I have a couple of free and paid apps on the market. I have not been using SlingShot, and I do not intend to since their “terms and condition” seems to be missing and because their opt-out seems odd since it requires phone number. I have however been using AirPush to monetize the free Apps and I am very pleased with it. First of all I have set it so it only creates a maximum of ONE ad per DAY, which I think should be okay for any users. Especially if you consider the fact that it takes about 30 seconds to opt-out from getting Ads, whereas you will never get any Ads from AirPush ever again, from any application. This is from the users point of view, which I as a user think it is ok. As a developer I am very pro for AirPush, simply because it is very hard to monetize via normal Ads. With around 2 000 installs and a timeframe of almost one MONTH the normal Ads have generated an astonishing… ~$1.5! (More than 10 000 ads have been published). Compared to AirPush which has generated almost 10 times that amount over the same time.

    It seems you are easily carried away if you expect the worse out of the idea of Ads in the notification bar. One ad per day, which is optional and easily opt-outable, is it reason enough to rage like a 13yo being rejected to play WoW?-.-

  • Julie

    I opted out on their website but I still don’t know how their malware got on my phone. I hope to find out so I can warn others.

  • skinymike

    Anyone know one of the employees working for airsoft? I want their number so I can call every five minutes and tell them they can opt out but carry on calling anyway. Anybody?

  • Patrick Spolar

    You guys are idiots. I’m an android developer that HAD over 50 games. Got banned and lost a 50k/yr income because of being banned for using air-push ads. ITS THIS SIMPLE!!! The games are freeeeeeeee!!!!! IF you don’t want to see the ads then fucking make your own game or buy the paid-for version without ads. SERIOUSLY, is it that much to ask for you to click “clear” once a god-damn day for you to use my apps? well I had almost 15 apps in the top 100 of the new section and I PROMISE that no1 will ever see the ads again. I only wish I had put a crash code in them so that I can ruin the experience of the game for everyone since obviously you idiotic android users are so ungrateful for the free experience. LEARN TO CODE, LEARN TO MAKE YOUR OWN GAMES, AND SEE IF YOU WANT TO DO IT FOR FREE.

    Dumb-asses.

  • Patrick Spolar

    Oh yea, I didnt use the actual air-push website. I used appenda. which does at MOST 1 ad per day and is EASILY opted out of. THIS NEEDS TO BE CLEAR FOOLS, IT’S NOT YOUR APP, IT’S MINE as a developer. If you want to download it you have no “RIGHT” to complain. I accept any suggestions but to complain about something that you didn’t pay for is the most selfish thing I can think of.

    • Patrick Spolar Hater

      Shut the fuck up Patty. You re the hiniest motherfucker in his forum. You don’t create games, you create malware and viruses, using sites like appenda. I’ll complain about whatever free shit with ads I have t eal ith, all fucking day long, and fuckface, it is 100% my right. Stop crying. Your aim is to highjack parts of the OS of a users phone to force them into clicking ads. Oh, and by the way you uneducated cunt, apenda sends about 30 ads a day from a single app, not one like you claim, so again, shut the fuck up. After reading your chilish rant, I cannot tell you exactly how glad I am to know that you’ve lost a 50K a year salary because of using airpush. I mean seriously, to know that happened to you is making me smile from ear to ear over here. You don’t deserve any money, not a dime, if your ad target is my fucking notification bar you stupid tool. Go home and cry to your motherfuckin mommy. You’re lucky I don’t fucking track you and tell you this hit on your own front stoop motherfucker.

    • The Patrick Spolar Hater

      Shut the fuck up Patty. You re the absolute whiniest motherfucker in his forum. You don’t create games, you create malware and viruses, using sites like appenda. I’ll complain about whatever free shit with ads I have to deal with, all fucking day long, and fuckface, it is 100% my right. Stop crying. Your aim is to highjack parts of the OS of a users phone to force them into clicking ads. Oh, and by the way you uneducated cunt, apenda sends about 30 ads a day from a single app, not one like you claim, so again, shut the fuck up. After reading your chilish rant, I cannot tell you exactly how glad I am to know that you’ve lost a 50K a year salary because of using airpush. I mean seriously, to know that happened to you is making me smile from ear to ear over here. You don’t deserve any money, not a dime, if your ad target is my fucking notification bar you stupid tool. Go home and cry to your motherfuckin mommy. You’re lucky I don’t fucking track you and tell you this shit on your own front stoop motherfucker.

  • Angelina

    Great idea man and such informational, i am also gonna share it my friends.

  1. I’d uninstall anything that stuck an ad in the notification space as quickly as possible. And I’d do it in the market and mark it as defective or malicious. Ads in the notification bar would be just obnoxious.

    • I agree. It’s one thing to put ads in your own app, but to turn my phone into your personal billboard is certainly not OK.

      • TWiT CommanderGuest 4 years ago

        Ads in notifications bar will be cause for total war.

        ANDROIDS ATTACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111one

    • AustinGuest 4 years ago

      That’s called Malware on a computer, and I don’t see why it should be treated or classified any differently on our phones.

    • I’m with you on that one, but I have a feeling that it will be hard to find offending apps. Deveopers who do use this ad system will probably set th8ings up for that the first notification bar ad shows up a few days after the app is installed. For those hwo install apps on a daily basis, it would be a bit harder to track down the offending app.

    • As soon as I read the headline I was already thinking of uninstall. lol

    • In app ads are tolerable but once they leave the app and mess with the phone’s look that’s BS!

    • ejansenGuest 4 years ago

      Takes a special kind of asshole to turn my phone into a billboard for shitty apps and services.

    • I’d do the same exact thing Jim! It gets to a point where ads need to stay where they are…come on now..in my notification bar? thats pretty ridiculous and whatever app does this…completely removed right then and there with a no star review. point blank.

    • SaloGuest 4 years ago

      I completely agree. It is a complete invasion of privacy. If I go to your doorstep, trying to sell me something you might be annoyed. But what if I’m already inside your house Then I try to sell you something. I’m not sure if I explain myself correctly but…that’s how I see it. Ads in apps is one thing, but on my notification bar? I will IMMEDIATELY uninstall that app, no matter how good I might think it is.

    • JulieGuest 4 years ago

      Problem is knowing how they get this crap on your phone in the first place.

  2. ChristopherGuest 4 years ago

    As a developer with an ad-supported application, I would never even consider something like this. It seems like a surefire wire way alienate the user base I’ve worked so hard to build up.
    As a user, I would immediately uninstall any application that did this and leave a negative review.

    • Winning app idea – Scan each app on install, if you locate this SDK, notify the user and offer to initiate an uninstall. Or, Lookout could add this to its things to look out for…

  3. JohnGuest 4 years ago

    I’m all about the free apps with ads. But I hate apps where the ad takes up the majority of the bottom of the screen. I would much rather have full space for the app with ads in the notification bar.

    If the ad came in the notification bar when the app was running, I’d be ok with it. But if the app was sending me ads while it was closed or even in the background, that’s a big no no in my book.

    • I can pretty well guarantee that “push” notification ads are going to come whenever the provider sees fit, not only when you are in the app requesting them.

  4. daveGuest 4 years ago

    Addfree?

    • I wish services like Appfree would allow you to segregate certain apps. I don’t want to block all ads, just those that show up in the notification bar.

  5. John KGuest 4 years ago

    Instant unistall. I don’t care what app it is.

  6. It might work with some.. but with the majority I would have to agree it would not. Wow what an invasion of personal space that would be.. I wouldnt even download it if it was the discription but if by chance it would be uninstalled two seconds after install. Any real developer would or should know how negative an impact this would have on there app. I would to as far as to give it one star and a negative review. Even if the qpp was the most amazing creation of all time. My notification bar is my space, dam it. Lol

  7. Wow. Thank god we have “AdFree For Android”! I am not going to put up with this shit!

    • Cameron Bonde (Vectrex)Guest 4 years ago

      AdFree does devs out of their only income. It isn’t your right to have no ads, that’s payment. Yes, even looking at the ads generates income for the dev, you don’t have to click on it. Fruit Ninja Free has the right idea. No ads on 3g, only wifi, only ads between rounds, not in game.

      • DerekGuest 4 years ago

        It isnt my right? Are you freaking crazy? The first intance of an ad popping up in my notification bar and I’m dropping Android altogether. I always figured that having an OS made by Google (nothing more than the biggest advertiser in the world) would come to this. Having ads all over my phone. Next they’ll have ads popping up as widgets on the home screens.

        • OMG Derek…. I will shoot somebody ! LOL

        • It’s your right to do whatever you like with your phone, but all you’re really doing is hurting the development community. It’s one thing if a dev is pushing ads to your notification bar, but if they are packaged within an app and are not out of control, lets let the dev make a little money for their hard work.

          • counselGuest 4 years ago

            Let the revs offer paid versions of their apps (many do not) so I can avoid ads. If you have no paid version, I don’t really want your app as it bugs me with ad notifications.

        • Of course video ads and notification ads are really bad. It isn’t helping anyone, especially devs, to do that, I’m not talking about that. But blocking ads completely when they aren’t obtrusive isn’t fair. The ad blocking apps should at least work PER APP, so you can block stupid apps acting like malware. The apps aren’t free, your ‘payment’ is to look at the ads, like TV. I agree devs SHOULD have ad free in-app purchase or separate versions and wonder why they don’t.

      • JasonGuest 4 years ago

        It’s the bandwidth I pay for — it’s my right to do whatever I want with my bandwidth. Blocking ads certainly does stop revenue from a developer (maybe – the browser may still let them connect/send, but not actually socket block the transfer), but the point is — if a developer wants to resort to AirPush or SlingLabs – I don’t give a shit about their revenue, they’re already being shady with their “gimme your money” mentality — and I’m frankly kind of tired of the liberties these developers take iwth allowing things like video ads – which all add up to taking my bandwidth caps even lower bit by bit.

        • I agree with all that. It’s normal ads I’m talking about (see above reply). Check Fruit Ninja Free. I like the way they do it (no ads on 3g, none in game)

      • TalesinGuest 4 years ago

        It is our right to do as we like with OUR OWN devices.
        Much like removing logos/badging from a car, or blacking out manufacturers’ marks.

        If a Dev sees too many people using their application and blocking all ads, they need to implement code checking/ensuring delivery of the ad, or else exiting the program, possibly with a ‘quitting out, please disable adblocking to use XYZApp’.

        Personally, I don’t mind the SMALL, STATIC banners at the bottom/out of the way. Once they go full screen width, they get annoying. Once they animate/blink/go larger than that? They’re toast, and/or I’ll find another application.

  8. JoshGuest 4 years ago

    There are apps that already do this.
    https://market.android.com/details?id=com.babynames.android

    Check out the reviews of that app.

  9. PaulGuest 4 years ago

    They do appear to have a “global opt-out” page here: http://www.slinglabs.com/optout.php
    Of course, they also want your mobile number (and likely your *real* mobile number, if you use Google Voice). But it’s an option.

    • MarkGuest 4 years ago

      Opt out pages are great ways to be opted in to many a fantastic advertising program. They’re about as trustworthy as a smiling politician.

  10. Silver FangGuest 4 years ago

    I would uninstall any app that put ads on my notification bar.

  11. rafkongGuest 4 years ago

    I would inmediatly delete, remove and/or uninstall any app that does this. I would even go as far as installing an add blocking app or some sort of hack.

    Not only would I do what I mentioned above but also may fully stop buying apps from the Market and instead just uise my phone for basic smartphone functions (email, texting, calling, browsing) and nothing more.

    The apps are the things that make our smartphones as good and great as they are today. Why make the very thing that makes our phones great the very thing that will make our phones horrible to use and live with?

  12. Cameron Bonde (Vectrex)Guest 4 years ago

    God damn it. Devs need to make ads unobtrusive or people will just block the lot, doing devs out of usually their only source of income. Yes, just viewing the ad counts even if you don’t click. All games should take the Fruit Ninja Free model so people don’t get pissed off. No ads on 3g, only wifi, only ads between rounds, not in game.

  13. Being honest, I fail to accept video ads as a valid ad system on phones. With limited bandwidth and storage, why should I give up those MBs to ads?

    • Yeah, video ads just don’t work for regular apps. If it’s a video app where you’re alreayd watching a video stream, it might make sense, but I think a dynamic ad still works a lot better.

  14. RolandGuest 4 years ago

    Even if this didn’t disturb you what happens if it was widely adopted? Would I have to scan past eight apps to finally get to my notifications? Seems like it would crumble under it’s own success.

  15. RayGuest 4 years ago

    No chance I’ll tolerate it. Apps with ads are ok. I don’t hate ads. This is invasive. The note bar is too important. Placing an ad amidst the strings of important details such as texts from friends family and coworkers, system information, voicemail, email (which I’ve already been forced to filter for ads known as spam). I agree with the above statement that it is malware. I CHOOSE to view ads or not at a given time within an app by ignoring as I wish, or paying to remove them. That is a fair deal to me. This method is FAR to invasive. I’d remove after reviewing and a low rating, as also mentioned above. As well as NEVER using any app from the dev. I wouldn’t trust them in the future because I would believe they were too greedy and did not respect me and my control over my device. I will not swallow this pill, not even reluctantly. I simply won’t do it.

  16. “If I started seeing advertisements pop up in my notification bar next to my Tweets, emails and other updates, I’d track down and uninstall the offending app. I wouldn’t even think twice about how good the app was.” <- NICK

    I could not have said it better Nick. Even Angry Birds peeves me with that huge bar ad in the game. Thank goodness for Airplane Mode.

  17. I’ve uninstalled apps on my Tablet because of the ads. It’s annoying and makes me feel like the app is a virus

  18. deckriderGuest 4 years ago

    eBuddy does this occasionally upon sign out

  19. Gallery puts ads in your notification bar while the app isn’t running. I’m not a big fan. They happen to be sort of lucky because I really like the app and don’t mind browsing the new wallpapers that come in from time to time, (and that usually seems to be the only reason they put the ad there). However, I still think I would prefer to have the ads somewhere else.

    • Auto Correct got me – I meant Grallery.

      • lol those damn ustwo peeps

        • Haha I take it back now that I think about it more. For some reason when I see ‘em my initial reaction is always, “dang it, I want that to go away,” but really I think they are doing it as responsibly as possible. Just because I like a clean notification area, doesn’t necessarily mean I should fault someone for putting notifications there for their app. It definitely would be annoying, though, if it were a random ad for something unrelated to the app.

  20. i dont even like adds in my apps so if they were to put them in my notification bar i would uninstall it right away. if became a trend among developers i would consider my options. ads are cool for what they are (giving us apps that you normally have to pay for, for free ) but when they invade your personal space that’s just wrong and i’m totally against that

  21. Hollyw0odGuest 4 years ago

    This would actually make me consider switching to WP7 or iOS.

  22. Yeah, I definitely would not be down for this or any developer at all that would do this.

  23. jGuest 4 years ago

    I would leave a 1 star review + write a comment saying there is a virus in the app, then uninstall and never deal with the developer again.

  24. Notification bar ads are definitely evil, but I would like to point out that there are a few ad types that I really enjoy. I love developers who use ads within their apps to promote other apps or services. In exchange for downloading a new app or clicking on a link, these apps then unlock new features within the app. Glu uses this app deployment system very well. They have some of the best games on the Android Market and the best part about them is that they are all FREE.

  25. AlexGuest 4 years ago

    I definitely don’t want this, depending on how controlled it is though but I’m against it generally

  26. LuluGuest 4 years ago

    I don’t even like in-app ads. (thanks god we have Adfree) Developers should always make a donation app or ad free version of they are worried about getting a stable income. I always donate or pay for the apps I like

    I will just uninstall the app and never deal with the developer again.

  27. Rafael VivasGuest 4 years ago

    Hey Nick – the company I work for is behind SlingLabs. We can definitely appreciate the feedback developers are putting out there. We are working on developing a product that leverages what we’re good at, while letting Android developers continue to do what they’re good at. We have started out of the gate with fundamental protection mechanisms including a very unaggressive notification policy (i.e. max 1/day, opt-outs, advertiser selection policy) after seeing what AirPush went through. We are steadfast in our policy and as an example, already turned down a publisher who insisted on us sending 4 pushes a day with an install base of over 2 million users (over 70 apps). We want to be in this for the long haul and have a true value-add to both developers and advertisers.

    We do feel this notification delivery mechanism is valuable because of 2 things;
    1. This is incremental ad space, Developers do not need to modify their user experience to see a true ROI on their development. Banner ads can be obtrusive.
    2. There is a huge disconnect in monetization on Android (vs. iOS) and we are working for developers to bridge this gap. Even our rev share is 70/30 in favor of developers.

    The thing that DOES make me slightly nervous is SlingLabs is one of about a dozen push networks which could wind up with a user getting tons of notifications, so we would welcome a company like Lookout or other scanning software to have a product that lists services so users can enable/disable things like this that are out of our control.

    Beyond that, SlingLabs plans on offering many non-traditional ad units to developers for those who are not interested in Notifications.

    I’d be happy to accept constructive feedback on how we can work with developers so they are comfortable with the product and our network.

    Thanks for the consideration!

    Rafael

    • Believe it or not these guys have a point.. It’s an ad a day in my notification bar which is dismissable. I find that way less obtrusive than ads running in-app the whole time and using up screen real-estate.

    • Thanks for the info, Rafael. It’s certainly appreciated.

      As a discussion point, what are your thoughts on whether these higher click-though rates would be organic clicks, or if they would be “accidental” clicks based on the fact that users are not accustomed to having ads in their notification bar?

    • DROID SamGuest 4 years ago

      While the 1 ad per day sounds good in theory, what happens when I have nearly 100 different apps installed on my device that use this service? I would be getting more ad notifications than I would real ones.

      Do you know if the ad notifications trigger automatically or do users need to user the app that day in order for it to allow a notification bar ad?

      • That’s an interesting point, and one which was also mentioned by Roland above. How does SlingLabs intend to ensure that a device that may have several apps with this type of notification doesn’t get bombarded as a result? Is it one ad per device per day? One ad per app per device per day?

        • Rafael VivasGuest 4 years ago

          Hey Justin,

          Its one notification per day, per device (and sometimes less depending on advertiser caps, publisher settings and fill rates). Even if you have 100 apps with the SlingLabs technology on it, we will only send one notification to that user. Once a notification is served, we actually tell the service not to check again for another day – so we’re not even using any device resources. The revenue potential from that one advertisement will be shared among all of the apps with SlingLabs on the users device.

          As for clicks being organic, versus accidental, I do realize there would be some users who click to clear the notification (instead of using the clear functionality on the phone) but you should know that while we back out a CPM to our Publishers – most of our Advertiser deals are paid as Cost-Per-Action. It is in our best interest to offer Advertisements which the user finds value in otherwise we wasted our 1-notification/day. We’d rather not serve a notification than generate unauthentic clicks.

          Hope that helps your questions.

          Thanks for the constructive feedback guys!

          • Cool, thanks again. I appreciate the response. Getting a maximum of one notification per day doesn’t seem unreasonable.

    • The big risk with this type of ad is people will search out ad blocking software MUCH more often. This isn’t going to work in the long run. They won’t realise WHERE the ads are coming from, especially if they get served without the app actually running.
      My suggestions if you must go ahead with this is on FIRST app run give an option to show in game ads or notification bar ads, not both.
      On the notification ad include the app which is serving it! (I know with multiple apps this gets harder, but just pick one round robin)
      I can’t see this lasting though, people already have downloaded ad blockers MILLIONS of times for pathetic little text based ads. So this and video ads are going to be bad news for devs who do it right.

    • joeeGuest 4 years ago

      Rafael, please post the name of your company so I can avoid doing business with them. Thanks.

    • Notification SacredGuest 3 years ago

      Rafael, while I appreciate your candid response, I disagree vehemently with you viewing the notification area as “Incremental ad space”. This space is Sacred to me. Message ups and consider your company and it’s users bakker from my phone. You will also receive free bad publicity.

      • Notification SacredGuest 3 years ago

        bakker => banned
        Sorry about that, my autocorrect was on the blink.

  28. Paul AtreidesGuest 4 years ago

    Google needs to deny apps with this kind of advertising. No app should be able to hijack any part of my device. Keep the ads in your apps, and there should also be some universal standards for the placement and timing of these ads. Definitely should’nt of allowed apps like Word with Friends to incorporate video ads(even though I barely give them a chance to load).

  29. RMCGuest 4 years ago

    Very simple actually, No Tolerance Policy!

    ANY type of Notification Bar ads will result in an immediate Avoidance (no installation) or Removal, regardless of the author or app.

  30. JGreeneGuest 4 years ago

    I think if a app dev. makes a free app with add support they should be forced to make a paid app with no adds, then they can put the adds anywhere they want and if you dont like it buy the paid version.

    • While I can appreciate the idea behind your comment, I think forcing developers to do things is just as good a way to alienate them as forcing ads into the notification bar is to alienate the user.

      In some cases, ads truly are the most appropriate way to monetize an app.

  31. ChrisGuest 4 years ago

    As a user, it would annoy me, but I understand devs need to make money or they would not bother releasing apps for our devices. For certain types of apps, this may be the only way to monetize them, short of making them a paid app. If I wanted to pay for just about everything, I’d own an iOS device. But for apps that don’t have an interface to display ads, like homescreen widgets or background services, what other options are there?

    As a dev, I haven’t considered using these types of ads, but I would not rule it out if there wasn’t another way to display ads. There have been times when I had to say I could not make an app free as the app was not meant for the user to be sitting inside of it where I could display ads, so I slap a $0.99 price tag on it. This is at least an option to continue giving away the apps for free.

    As a dev, I don’t really see apps as being “free”, the users think they are free since they are not being charged, but in reality we are selling you ads, and see each new user as an increase in ad requests. Would it bother me that a bunch of users don’t want me to make money off an app so they block ads or uninstall it? Not particularly, don’t really want that type of user base anyway who blocks ads for the sake of blocking them. I take time to make sure my ads don’t cover something important in the interface and are not in a position to be easily mis-clicked, that’s my job as a dev, but if you’ve just going to block them, then go to iOS where you can pay for even the simplest app.

  32. NickGuest 4 years ago

    Not only would I never put up with an app that used such a tactic but I would never implement one in any app I develop. It’s a sure way to piss off your users and suppress your apps penetration. In app ads have been effective (even more so than paid apps) in generating revenue without driving away users. Notification ads would change that dynamic in a heart beat.

  33. This could potentially hurt Android with over running people with ads. I know Devs need to get paid but this to much for the average person and I would also uninstall programs that utlize this.

  34. AnilGuest 4 years ago

    Google should ban / restrict such activity in 1st place.

    • joeeGuest 4 years ago

      Agreed, for Android devices using the Google version of the OS Google could set a policy that the notification area is sacrosanct.

      The appropriate place for advertisements is in-app, and whenever an ad-free paid version is available for an app I use a lot, I make the purchase to support the developer

      If I know that an app contains ads pushed to the notification bar, I won’t download it. If I install one that’s not marked as containing such, I will immediately uninstall it, will give it a one-star rating, will flag it as containing virus/malware and will post negative comments about the developer. No exceptions, no appeal.

  35. Kipp SwansonGuest 4 years ago

    I will not knowingly download or install any app that does this. I will uninstall and one-star review any app that does this and gets by me.

    In app ads are fine. This is not. Are you listening devs?

  36. If devs actually do this, it’s basically gonna give iOS a free jab at us by pointing out another flaw with android and it being “open source”…We don’t need iOS to have more ammo against us.

  37. I think this is the most selfishly obnoxious thing ever. I hope this gets stopped somehow. If not by someone/thing, by poor app sales and downloads…

  38. peter pahnGuest 4 years ago

    ” I’d uninstall anything that stuck an ad in the notification space as quickly as possible. And I’d do it in the market and mark it as defective or malicious. Ads in the notification bar would be just obnoxious.”
    I SECOND THAT!

  39. Yes most definitely this would affect my use of an app. But lets hope this nightmare does not become a reality. The only solace i can think of is that cyanogenmod would find a way to block the ads in the notification bar like they did before with in app ads. Lets hope for the best

  40. Oh that could also affect battery life which i really wouldnt want tthat

  41. SanjeevGuest 4 years ago

    There are few paid apps in android market which are earning enough money, also users have found ways to stop ads in the applications. So we are due for some innovative ways to serve the ads (primary business model).

    But if I am using any application and it goes and does something outside of its area or where I would not allow it to work, I would not want to keep that app.

    If there is an menu option for selecting notification bar ads, how many of us would tick that option…..I would say may be 0.

  42. JasonGuest 4 years ago

    Doesnt matter how much I like the app (such as TapFish), its getting uninstalled IMMEDIATELY if I see a notification ad from it (and especially if I have to track down that app).

  43. Yea I don’t care what app it is I’m going to kill it with extreme discrimination.

  44. SteveGuest 4 years ago

    Yeah I totally agree that notification bar ads are uncalled for, however I think the mentality of a few people here is totally selfish. People that are claiming it is their right to remove ads from apps, I think it’s just greedy. Developers have 2 ways of making money. Charge you for the app, or place ads so that you don’t HAVE to pay for the app. After all, what is going to fund the development and manpower going into an app? Some apps are solo devs, others are companies, but regardless of who it is, I think if an app is released free without the need for you to pay any money, you should be totally grateful. If a free version wasn’t available, but an add free paid version was, the other alternative is piracy. Is that within your right too? And how about your PC? Some people have mentioned how it’s their right to do whatever they like with the phone they have purchased, so does that mean it’s perfectly fine to pirate loads of music and movies onto your PC, because after all, you paid for and own the PC? Simple minds people, simple minds!

  45. GnejsGuest 4 years ago

    It’s kinda insane how much internet rage there is here. I can understand that people do not want to get spammed in the notification bar but still if you read about SlingShot, it is stated that a maximum of ONE ad per DAY will be generated for a single phone. I am a developer and I have a couple of free and paid apps on the market. I have not been using SlingShot, and I do not intend to since their “terms and condition” seems to be missing and because their opt-out seems odd since it requires phone number. I have however been using AirPush to monetize the free Apps and I am very pleased with it. First of all I have set it so it only creates a maximum of ONE ad per DAY, which I think should be okay for any users. Especially if you consider the fact that it takes about 30 seconds to opt-out from getting Ads, whereas you will never get any Ads from AirPush ever again, from any application. This is from the users point of view, which I as a user think it is ok. As a developer I am very pro for AirPush, simply because it is very hard to monetize via normal Ads. With around 2 000 installs and a timeframe of almost one MONTH the normal Ads have generated an astonishing… ~$1.5! (More than 10 000 ads have been published). Compared to AirPush which has generated almost 10 times that amount over the same time.

    It seems you are easily carried away if you expect the worse out of the idea of Ads in the notification bar. One ad per day, which is optional and easily opt-outable, is it reason enough to rage like a 13yo being rejected to play WoW?-.-

  46. JulieGuest 4 years ago

    I opted out on their website but I still don’t know how their malware got on my phone. I hope to find out so I can warn others.

  47. skinymikeGuest 4 years ago

    Anyone know one of the employees working for airsoft? I want their number so I can call every five minutes and tell them they can opt out but carry on calling anyway. Anybody?

  48. Patrick SpolarGuest 3 years ago

    You guys are idiots. I’m an android developer that HAD over 50 games. Got banned and lost a 50k/yr income because of being banned for using air-push ads. ITS THIS SIMPLE!!! The games are freeeeeeeee!!!!! IF you don’t want to see the ads then fucking make your own game or buy the paid-for version without ads. SERIOUSLY, is it that much to ask for you to click “clear” once a god-damn day for you to use my apps? well I had almost 15 apps in the top 100 of the new section and I PROMISE that no1 will ever see the ads again. I only wish I had put a crash code in them so that I can ruin the experience of the game for everyone since obviously you idiotic android users are so ungrateful for the free experience. LEARN TO CODE, LEARN TO MAKE YOUR OWN GAMES, AND SEE IF YOU WANT TO DO IT FOR FREE.

    Dumb-asses.

  49. Patrick SpolarGuest 3 years ago

    Oh yea, I didnt use the actual air-push website. I used appenda. which does at MOST 1 ad per day and is EASILY opted out of. THIS NEEDS TO BE CLEAR FOOLS, IT’S NOT YOUR APP, IT’S MINE as a developer. If you want to download it you have no “RIGHT” to complain. I accept any suggestions but to complain about something that you didn’t pay for is the most selfish thing I can think of.

    • Patrick Spolar HaterGuest 3 years ago

      Shut the fuck up Patty. You re the hiniest motherfucker in his forum. You don’t create games, you create malware and viruses, using sites like appenda. I’ll complain about whatever free shit with ads I have t eal ith, all fucking day long, and fuckface, it is 100% my right. Stop crying. Your aim is to highjack parts of the OS of a users phone to force them into clicking ads. Oh, and by the way you uneducated cunt, apenda sends about 30 ads a day from a single app, not one like you claim, so again, shut the fuck up. After reading your chilish rant, I cannot tell you exactly how glad I am to know that you’ve lost a 50K a year salary because of using airpush. I mean seriously, to know that happened to you is making me smile from ear to ear over here. You don’t deserve any money, not a dime, if your ad target is my fucking notification bar you stupid tool. Go home and cry to your motherfuckin mommy. You’re lucky I don’t fucking track you and tell you this hit on your own front stoop motherfucker.

    • The Patrick Spolar HaterGuest 3 years ago

      Shut the fuck up Patty. You re the absolute whiniest motherfucker in his forum. You don’t create games, you create malware and viruses, using sites like appenda. I’ll complain about whatever free shit with ads I have to deal with, all fucking day long, and fuckface, it is 100% my right. Stop crying. Your aim is to highjack parts of the OS of a users phone to force them into clicking ads. Oh, and by the way you uneducated cunt, apenda sends about 30 ads a day from a single app, not one like you claim, so again, shut the fuck up. After reading your chilish rant, I cannot tell you exactly how glad I am to know that you’ve lost a 50K a year salary because of using airpush. I mean seriously, to know that happened to you is making me smile from ear to ear over here. You don’t deserve any money, not a dime, if your ad target is my fucking notification bar you stupid tool. Go home and cry to your motherfuckin mommy. You’re lucky I don’t fucking track you and tell you this shit on your own front stoop motherfucker.

  50. AngelinaGuest 3 years ago

    Great idea man and such informational, i am also gonna share it my friends.