Oct 06 AT 3:33 PM Dustin Earley 61 Comments

Dueling reports on the next Nexus tackle processor, graphics, network exclusivity

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Two large voices in the blogosphere have stepped up today to throw their weight behind what they say will be the final specs of the next Nexus. Both BGR and GSM Arena say they have a source on the inside who has spilled the beans. The only problem is, the information doesn’t line up.

The specs mentioned by BGR are, for the most part, nothing new. We’re looking at a 4.65-inch HD Super AMOLED display, a TI OMAP 4460 at 1.2 GHz, 1 GB RAM, 32 GB internal storage, a 5 megapixel camera with 1080p video capture, NFC, a 1750 mAh battery and, of course, Ice Cream Sandwich (which they say can track data usage by app). BGR continues on say that “Nexus Prime” is only a codename, and that the device will launch as the Samsung Galaxy Nexus, a Verizon wireless exclusive. This is nothing new, but even their own spec sheet seems to add some confusion to this claim.

Listed in the specs for the Galaxy Nexus is network compatibility: “LTE/HSPA depending on carrier.” A Verizon exclusive device will launch with different network compatibility? If this was a scoop on the Nexus Prime in general, then that would make sense. But the specs on BGR are clearly related to the Galaxy Nexus, which they claim is a Verizon exclusive “here in the US.” It would seem that BGR is either confused or implying that any GSM variant of the next Nexus will only launch overseas.

GSM Arena’s report reads relatively the same, but with a change in processor, GPU, battery and camera. According to GSM Arena, the Nexus Prime will launch with a 1.5 GHz Exynos, backed by a dual-core PowerVR SGX543MP2. The same GPU inside the iPad 2, and most likely iPhone 4S. They also say the Nexus will come with an 8 megapixel camera featuring 1080p video capture and an improved image sensor, along with a 2050 mAh battery.

Then we get to network compatibility. GSM Arena says the next Nexus will come with LTE inside, but will also be a GSM/CDMA world phone similar to the iPhone 4S. That means the device could run not only on Verizon, but Sprint and AT&T as well. I’m not sure how hard it would be to squeeze T-Mobile bands into a device like this, but if it can be done, it probably will be. No network exclusivity was mentioned by GSM Arena, but they didn’t say it wouldn’t turn out that way either.

It’s plausible that BGR is describing the Galaxy Nexus, and that GSM Arena is describing the Nexus Prime. But GSM Arena has said that their tipster has “basically put the previously speculated specs to sleep.” Which one do you think the next Nexus will turn out to be? The Verizon exclusive OMAP Nexus or the LTE/CDMA/GSM Exynos world phone? Could both Nexus devices exist in harmony? Let us know what you think in the comments below.

Dustin Earley: Tech enthusiast; avid gamer; all around jolly guy.

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  • http://www.infotainmentempire.com pekosROB

    Maybe the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus Prime are different phones? Either sounds good, but the faster and better hardware is always nicer.

    • LEAP21-24

      Remember this: “Maybe the iPhone 4s and iPhone 5 are different phones?Either sounds good….”

      What we got? One disappointing iPhone 4s with the same design as last years.

      • https://plus.google.com/116093795732345180640/posts DroidvsNexus

        I must say, the iPhone IS a good phone, it’s got battery life and power over the current batch of androids. It also has Siri, which is pretty goddamn awesome. Not that I like iOS more then android(because the iOS UI is boring and painfully simple), but I have to give credit where credit is due. Siri is a very new, “ahead of it’s time”/revolutionary feature.

  • http://www.ryanbrock.com Brocklesocks

    I wonder if I can buy one not subsidized by a carrier, like I did with my Nexus One?

    • http://droidsamurai.blogspot.com DroidSamurai

      If you are in the US, you probably will end up paying more. The carriers won’t give you a discount on the subscription by bringing your own phone.

      • matt.s.cleary

        Actually, you can save on T-mobile this way… I have my plan thru them currently and if the Nexus Prime is a Verizon exclusive, I plan on buying one unsubsidized to use on a VZW prepaid plan… (if its possible and real)

        • http://www.ryanbrock.com Brocklesocks

          Same here. I’ve got a N1 on T-Mobile and it actually is $10 cheaper per month, on top of actual savings on the phone of $180 over the course of two years.

  • J2x

    Oh please LORD, let this latest tip be true!!!

  • coggy9

    Seeing as BGR said that a source said that the iPhone 5 was coming to Sprint…. I think GSM Arena is reporting the real specs.

  • http://richardmorrison.co.nz Richard

    If it is not called the Nexus Prime, there will be an uproar!!

    • http://www.anthonydomanico.com Anthony Domanico

      Get ready to uproar.

      • kazahani

        RAWR!

  • themanwithsauce

    I made a comment in a previous post about nexus speculation back in July. So far, it’s held true. Samsung likes verizon wireless. Google likes verizon wireless. Verizon wireless likes android and likes money. This device will launch on verizon. However, it makes no sense for it to be an exclusive.Nor does it make any sense to put nexus branding on two devices that launch at the same time.

    The iphone 4S will launch alongside iphone 4 and 3Gs across multiple carriers. Granted only AT&T has all 3 and Sprint will only have the 4S but still this is going to be the first time android has had competition across 3 carriers in the US. If there was ever a time for a nexus device to launch across all the carriers at once, this is the time. And don’t rule out a possible aggressive subsidy strategy for sprint’s 4S since they don’t have established plan customers with old generation iphones.

    Plus, as with the Nexus S, google is taking an apple-like approach to technology in that it would rather do what works well rather than what barely works but is amazing when it does. I’d put money on the samsung processor especially if rumors of TI chip delays are to be believed. Samsung has been working on that chip for the better part of a year at least with how long the SGSII has been on the market worldwide. I’d assume if they’re doing the Nexus they’ll one up their own product to put the nexus name on it.

    So to recap (tl;dr people) – Won’t be an exclusive, launch across multiple carries to compete against the 4S. Samsung processor is most likely due to chip delays from TI and the track record of SGSII. But this is still a guess, just one based off of logic.

    • irishrally

      Every bone in my body hopes you’re right.

    • Crix72737

      Well it certainly doesn’t make sense to launch it on AT&T later this month or november because I will definitely return my newly ordered Galaxy SII and wait it out. Who the he’ll wouldn’t? Next gen gpu, faster clocked CPUs, and most importantly (compared to the S2) an HD screen!

    • Shhon75

      I hope you’re right, because I’m considering leaving T-Mobile. If Verizon only gets their greedy hands on the next Nexus. Lucky I get a 30% discount on Verizon plans, so I may break even monetary.

    • themanwithsauce

      Bit of a conspiracy theory here buuuuut….There might be a bit of truth to this. I think google has prepared multiple versions of the galaxy nexus and theyre working with samsung to decide which one would be best. This delay before the announcement is to give them time to finish up the final details of a prototype and spec sheet. This is a much further shot than my previous post but hear me out

      1) notice how we go form hearing absolutely NOTHING in terms of screenshots, specs, or really much of anything (4chan never counts) riiiiiight up until this last week or so to steal a bit of thunder from the iPhone reveal.
      2) The dueling reports got people discussing and talking about what they wanted most in a phone
      3) This one’s a real smoking gun – We never ONCE got a screengrab of any kind of information sheet from google or samsung. Don’t you think it’s odd that someone who managed to get their physical hands on one of these prototypes long enough to make a video of it didn’t have 5 seconds of privacy to snap a screengrab of some form of spec sheet?
      4) This one makes a lot of sense why they’re moving it – Which carriers are getting what phones from apple? Will sprint carry both the 4S and the 4? Are they cramming CDMA radios into 3GS models? I’m pretty sure the answers are Yes and No to those questions respectively but still. They want the launch to die down since they can’t physically release the phone to disrupt sales anyways. It’s not finished yet (see how this works?)
      5) The chip shortage….what happened to it? I don’t recall seeing any further updates about the TI supply issues. Now maybe someone can update me on this but samsung might still be debating what to do. Keep in mind, they might be stocking up their own processor/gpu combos for upcoming tablets and phones. TI just does chip production so if they can offload that contract onto them it frees up their supply for their other products.

      Again, this is a very very VERY far fetched conspiracy theory but think about it for a second. I’m willing to bet at least one of these is the reason for the delay at the very least. And I am willing o bet google doesn;t know what they’re using yet either.

  • xsynth

    I definitely prefer the GSM-released specs, and as mentioned above seem to be more credible lately in terms of rumours.

    That said, I’m still unsure whether to get this or a quad-core next year. I’ve got the Nexus S and love stock android, but not a huge fan of the curved screen (though I don’t really mind it too much, just that it doesn’t sit flat with anything hahaha).

    Need to see the whole thing and not just the side to see how similar it is to the NS I guess

    • irishrally

      Just like the Nexus S was better than all the dual core phones released up until the S2, the quad core phones coming out in the first 2/3 of next year probably won’t be much better, if better at all, then the Nexus Prime, or whatever it’s going to be called.

  • BiGMERF

    look i dont give a crap.. I just want it on tmo !

    • wasim

      man….if this doesnt come to Tmobile, i might just have to beat some ass!

      • Nathan

        Right!!! Ill be one of the most upset people on earth!! If T-Mobile doesn’t get it I’m going to complain to Google and T-Mobile about this. But I’m sure it wouldn’t come to this (hopefully)

  • Aerohix

    You see, I live in Brazil and I hate your carrier related news hahahaha
    So if it work with my carrier here I’ll be happy, also, please GSM Arena be true source!

    • Johan Ribbing

      true. People vote you down if you say something negative about everything being about carriers (because you don’t really care ’cause not everyone live in America), though. But it is odd though with all the talk of the freedome to choose you get with android and you’re still all slaves to your carriers. Google can’t let Apple beat them on that front, that would be insane. But maybe their point is that you can get android on all carriers just with different devices… Hm.

      But to reiterate – don’t give a crap about carriers, not American. But damn crap hell if it turns out BGR is right on this one.

  • Manuel

    BGR never seems to get it right, so I’ll go for GSM-Arena.

    It also doesn’t help BGR’s case when the chipset they claim to be in the next Nexus is an OMAP 4460 @ 1.2 Ghz. Well, happens that OMAP 4460 is clocked to 1.5 Ghz, not 1.2 Ghz. This can be seen in Texas Instrument’s website.

    • Erik

      Chips can be over or under clocked with ease by manufacturers. The Desire Z and Desire HD has the same chip but are clocked at 800MHz and 1GHz

    • http://droidsamurai.blogspot.com DroidSamurai

      But the Exynos is supposed to have an ARM MALI GPU, not a PowerVR, unless Samsung changes their mind again.

      • exynos

        Exynos with PowerVR means its next generation of Exynos with 35 nm structure

  • Narada

    I think that somebody, somebody at a blog perhaps…., should put together a chart detailing the historical accuracy of the respective sources of information in question, i.e. BGR and GSMArena.

    With regards to how hard it is to put a radio that “squeezes” T-mobile bands in, it may be hard, but it has (kinda) been done. Nokia latest flagships (if they can still be called that) have penta-band radios (i.e. 850, 1900, 1700, 2100) , but of course they do not have CDMA compatibility to deal with.

    Personally, I think carrier exclusivity would be a step backwards in how Google releases Nexus devices, which I hope they don’t take. I am committed to getting getting the next Nexus devices, and I don’t have any qualms about getting it off contract (in fact I prefer that route), but I’m not interested in switching carriers in order to get the device.

    Sooooo, I HOPE BGR is wrong. All of the specs from GSM Arena are more attractive, from the processor to the camera to the battery. But I guess we won’t really, really know till Tuesday.

  • heldros

    I just hope the leaks from GSM Arena are true because those from BGR seems poor.

  • xoldier

    Sounds more like 2 devices to me. Verizon Exclusive will be a bad idea. I’LL BE PISSSSSEDD!!! I AM ALREADY PISSSED!!!

    At a time when Apple is opening up its doors to more carriers and releasing their latest iteration of iPhone as a World Phone, giving ANY sort of carrier exclusivity to a flagship Android would be a bad decision and most (like myself) will not be happy about this.

    Yes, “open” is great and all but Manufacturer/Carrier UI’s are just bloatware and holding Android back. I would live with it if those UI’s didn’t stand like a brick wall for updates to the OS. There has to be some protocol and standard that Google must set in place for the manufacturers of Android devices. Higher Hardware/Software requirements. Better Standards for End User experience.

    Any device launching today must launch with the latest and greatest OS and should be updated within 30-60 days of release of updates. Manufacturers market their devices based on what’s latest today and once we pay for it, their major incentive is achieved and not much lay ahead of that for them. Anything beyond that is a liability to them.

    I was at Best Buy today and found myself playing with a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 – not the first time – and I cringed (again) and thought to myself: Seriously?!?! That’s the best Google and Samsung could come up with?!?! The interface looks great, it has all the utility, structure and design anyone could ask for…BUT what gives when that interface is sticky, choppy, heavy and clunky – not smooth and fluid as it should be…must be. That is why I am a Tablet-Less camper. I don’t want to use a tablet that looks great but feels like running Windows 7 on a Pentium IV.

    • xoldier

      Took it off topic but I was bursting in flames!

  • seven2k

    hope sprint gets it!

  • ken

    The GSM specs make the most sense. Plus BGR has a history of being wrong.

  • Alex

    Gsm b/c it does not have exclusivity and its better specs

  • ben dover

    i’m just going to leave this here:

    I CANNOT WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

  • Ryan

    Regardless of what it’s called, I’ll still call it the Nexus Prime. Just sounds cooler.

  • Renato M.

    Usually with conflicting rumors, the least fantastic turns out to be true and the other one just a fan “I wished…”

  • Eric R.

    With the history on Verizon pushing their “Droid” tag, I would not be surprised if they call the exclusive device “Droid Prime -by Samsung”

    – just my guess :)

    • none

      If they do decide to put “droid” in there, I would think “Droid Nexus” or “Nexus Droid” would be the more likely possibilities.

  • truth

    I find it weird for the Nexus 1 & Nexus S to both be released on T-Mobile and the Nexus Prime not seem to have a chance to be released on their network 1st. weird to me.

  • Interpol91

    Hopefully this makes it to Sprint or Tmobile rather quickly. I don’t want to get it months later when phones with better specs will be available.

  • Nate B.

    BGR is glade. GSM makes more sense.

  • kelly m

    To be a nexus the processor would be the flagship for ics…so the propriety Samsung one didn’t fit dose it?

  • Harmon

    iPhone 4S sales will destroy this meandroid phone!

    • Tico4674

      You may be right about the sales but you know you’re sporting a large case of cellphone envy. I got two friends to ditch their iphones and buy the sgs2 moments after the huge apple letdown event. After a day of being on the fence about returning it because it didn’t “just work” like their iphones they are more than happy with the speed, overall performance, screen size/quality and the customization of Android.

      • https://plus.google.com/116093795732345180640/posts DroidvsNexus

        I’ve done the same, or at least I think I have. I believe the new iPhone is great, in fact it’s the best there is (in terms of performance)! (for now)But once the Nexus Prime and HTC Vigor are released, it will be beaten (definitely by the Prime, and possibly by the Vigor as well). I also wonder how apple managed such power, and still kept the 800 MHz duel core.

  • Tico4674

    Either set of specs are insane but I’ll take the gsm on tmobile please. Fanboys eat your heart out.

  • Nathan

    I want the GSM Arena because one, it has better specs then anything out now and it will be on most carriers to. Plus why would Google put some not so awesome spec on nexus anyway. I am just hoping at this point

  • Jame

    Last year the Nexus S was a T-mobile exclusive at launch if you wanted the carrier discount though you could buy it at full retail. I bought a Nexus S with the T-mo discount and it came unlocked out of the box. Eventually it launched on Sprint and I was told that there is a version with the ATT bands. I am guessing that the phone may be a Verizon exclusive at launch but it would be available through other channels in the future.

  • inhuman5000

    Maybe the Verizon version with LTE will feature the TI omap CPU. And the gsm version that will come later sold through google or best buy.(enough time to put in the new exynos CPU).

  • Dirty_Azkals

    Heh, BGR screwed it up big time on the “Sprint iPhone 5″ article and is losing credibility to me, so I believe the other guy by default. Besides, really a 5 mp camera?

  • Manly Man

    Yawn. I pass. Can’t wait for the quad-core phones.

  • Gilgehmesh

    Is the Google “insider” who tipped GSMArena the 4Chan dude… because the specs from GSMArena matches the “4Chan” dude’s pretty much.

  • Dan Allen

    Please let it be the “1.5 GHz Exynos, backed by a dual-core PowerVR SGX543MP2″ I want that GPU to rock the pants off the Iphone4S.

    The 4S may have disappointed many, but that GPU it has isn’t underwhelming. I’m worried that the overclocked SGX540 will not keep up.

  • mike

    Holy shit sgx543 and exnos1.5 and 720p damped this is amazing if its true. Was wasn’t impressed if qualcomm but now I want…

  • https://plus.google.com/116093795732345180640/posts DroidvsNexus

    I think the Nexus Prime will be the Nexus Prime, and the Galaxy Nexus will be the Droid Prime (or Galaxy Prime). I think the same GPU will be used in both devices, and they will both have the same camera, but the Nexus will be a Verizon (and possibly T Mobile) exclusive, and the Galaxy will basically be the SGS II HD.
    Also, who thinks there will be more then one carrier for the hardware inside the HTC Vigor?