Sep 09 AT 9:03 AM Nick Gray 54 Comments

Investigative work proves mystery HTC device is the rumored 5-inch HTC phablet

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The mysterious black HTC phone we saw last week has made another appearance – giving us a good view of the front side of the device for the first time. While there are quite a few HTC rumors floating around these days, the images have not been matched up directly with any of them. So we decided to take matters into our own hands to see if we could find a way to measure the size of the screen, hoping it would match up with the 5-inch HTC phablet rumors floating around.

The latest image of the mystery device gave us the perfect angle to do some investigative work. Since the image is a straight-on picture of the device, we were able to pull it into Photoshop and align it with a handful of other HTC phones. After a quick examination of the devices, we realized that HTC’s capacitive buttons below the screen were all the same size regardless of the device’s screen size. Once we realized this, we took an image of the HTC EVO 4G LTE and sized it down so that its capacitive buttons were as close in size to the capacitive buttons on the mystery device. Next, we measured the size of the screens and used the size of the 4.7-inch display on the EVO as our yard stick.

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In the end, our crude Photoshop work and rough mathematical calculations show that the mystery HTC phone features a 5.01-inch display. It’s a little off, but we’re fairly confident that the pictured device is directly related to the HTC 6435 5-inch phablet that’s heading to Verizon. It feels good to know what we’ve been able to connect these two rumors, but we’re even more excited about the images now since none of them feature any Verizon branding. This means that HTC is probably working on an unlocked GSM version of the device for our friends over in Europe and Asia. There’s no saying how much longer we’ll have to wait to get our hands on HTC’s phablet, but we’re really hoping we’ll get some official news about the device at HTC’s September 19th press event.

Via: HTC Source

Source: TechOrz

Nick is a tech enthusiast who has a soft spot for HTC and its devices. He started HTCsource.com (the first HTC blog) back in 2007 and later joined the Android and Me family in the summer of 2010.

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  • Dan13

    Knowing how successful the Galaxy Note is, and that there is a huge amount of people who love HTC’s build quality, there’s no doubt this phablet will be huge hit. Especially if it comes to Verizon.

    • redraider133

      Agree, most do not want the lg 5″ that verizon got and since it seems they won’t be getting the note that this could be a huge success for htc on verizon.

  • LittleGreenDude

    Looks like a pretty boss phone to me. If HTC can release this across all the carriers at once, then they have hit big.

  • Christie

    I did the exact same thing, usinh the HTC logo; every htc phone I’ve seen has the exact same logo size. (I measured in milimeters too), and ended up with 5.04″.

    It’s nice to see someone else get the same result, I know I’m sure hoping for it since they’re not getting the note on Verizon! *whacks verizon for that!*

  • kazahani

    Nicely done A&M! Way to take it to the next level there.

    Super glad you were able to givce substance to the HTC phablet rumor. I was hoping that someone would give the Note some competition.

  • fletchtb

    Nice sleuthing!

  • RX-78-7

    That’s a very nice looking phone.

  • Dr.Carpy

    Hopefully this will be executed well, an HTC will have a winner. The One X was good, so I hope they score with this device. Maybe the Nexus 2 or Nexus One XL? Here’s hoping!

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  • Nate B.

    I honestly think it will not do so well. I don’t mean to take away from it, but marketing for any Android device seems to not do so well. The launching of any Android device seems to flop as well. Closet thing to near perfect launching and marketing is the SGS III. I do hope this device does well but I honestly think it won’t. I guess I will see soon. I personal don’t like Sense either. I kind of find it hard that I don’t because the first Android device I had was a HTC Hero when it first came out. I loved that thing. Now I look at Sense like how did I like that. It just seems like to much. I do say I like the thinness of the Phablet.

    • redraider133

      well the note sold pretty well for “not doing so well” and that was touted by many as a “niche” device. Plus the razr maxx even outsold the iphone for a little while so how exactly is that every android “not do so well”?

      • Nate B.

        I’m just saying you don’t hear as much success behind any Android device like the S series from Samsung. I just don’t think it’ll do that well for some reason. We will see.

        • http://htcsource.com Nick Gray

          No, this will not sell as well at the SGSIII, but that’s because there can only be one phone at the top. For this to be considered a success, HTC would only have to sell 3-5 million globally. Those numbers are not nearly as impressive as what Samsung has put up with the Note, but you have to remember that most people who wanted a phone this size have already jumped on board.

  • zerosix

    Sherlock!

  • Raptor

    Have you noticed that this HTC phablet was reported here as having unusual 1794×1080 screen with aspect ratio 1.6611. Doing more forensics and scanning this leaked photo though gives aspect ratio 16:9 = 1.777777 which if it’s 1080p device means dimensions 1920×1080.

    So or this phablet has not 1794×1080 screen, but more reasonable full HD resolution, or 1794×1080 was screen dimension without on-screen controls, or this is not a mystical HTC crazy superphablet killer.

  • LjNj_RC51

    My co-worker has the Samwrong Note and its nice. I’m glad to hear that HTC is building a similar product.

    I can’t wait to add the LTE EVO and the new phablet to my HTC collections. ;-))

    • Anthony E

      Samwrong???

      Did auto-correct mess with your message?

      • LjNj_RC51

        Nope, just a having a wittle fun with the Samsung folks out there, but we are all Android family. ;-))

  • Greg

    This is “proof” about as much as Apple proved Samsung devices looked identical to their iDevices by resizing and skewing them and comparing them side by side.

    This is an Android and Me made rumour…and should be listed as such.

    Come on guys…Anthony is now gone…something I am personally happy about. I would hope the A+M team would be above calling rumours fact…

    • http://htcsource.com Nick Gray

      Sorry you feel that way. I honestly feel there is more fact in my research than random reports which spit out specs with no trail to back up what they are saying. Taylor was quick to point out that that the rumored Adreno 320 for this device was never actually mentioned anywhere except for a Verge article cited a source that didn’t even mention the GPU.

      If you don’t want to believe the information we’ve provided, that’s just fine. We approached this with an open mind so see if we could come out with anything that matched the rumors. If you can show me where my calculations are off, I’d be more than willing to correct the article.

      • ~ZH~

        Are you talking about the GPU of the rumored 6435? If yes, there was a glbenchmark result showing while back that indicated the Adreno 320 as its GPU. If I’m not mistaken, the result is still in Kishonti’s database under glbenchmark 2.1.

      • Greg

        Don’t get me wrong Nick…I am sure there are people who want to hear about the rumours and such…but that is not me.

        I am all for seeing proof of upcoming devices though, and hence why I love A+M for getting information early.

        As for your calculations – it is the fact that you are using blurrycam pictures that may not even be real to guestimate via methods that are rough at best and based on assumption that the size of the physical buttons will be the same. I am not denying that you have some great thinking…but maybe I am more at odds with the way you state the results. Something like “Investigative work supports rumours of a 5″ HTC tablet”would be much more accurate. This is still very much a rumour…would you not agree?

        • DROID Sam

          It’s a mathematical calculation based on a rumor. I can personally verify that the buttons below the screen are the same size on all new HTC handsets (HTC desire C, One V, One S and One X). So it’s not too far of a stretch to think that this new device would be the same.

          At least AAM is doing some investigative work while the others are just sitting around re-reporting news that we’ve all heard a thousand times.

    • Dr.Carpy

      Don’t you think your being a bit harsh? what does this have to do with Apple Vs Samsung? It’s not like they subjected you to a picture of the Loch Ness Monster or the Yeti. It’s a mock up much like the Galaxy Note 2. That device is now fact, correct? You act as though the Android and Me staff forced you to read the article. Nick has the right to post his ideas in regards to the upcoming device. There is a device number. Fact. Be more courteous and try decaf.

      • Greg

        Righto…yeah. I am being harsh. And you aren’t.

        At the end of the day I am saying this is not proof. A device number? Who cares buddy…a phone exists, that doesn’t make it a 5″ phablet. Nothing has been “proven” in this post is what I am saying. Nick had a great idea to play around with…but proof is concrete and I am afraid this is not. Proof is a very strong and specific word…look it up sometime. And this site is a professional journal, so they should be professional. As far as you saying A+M forced me to read the article, I consider that they did. I view the RSS feed so I don’t visit the site for things that are not relevant to me…I only want facts. This mislead me…and that annoys me. I hate being misled.

        • DROID Sam

          I think they have done some great work and have shown more proof than any other blog. I wonder what your reaction would be if some other blog wrote something like “Exclusive: anonymous source confirms 5-inch HTC phablet” and presented it as fact. This happens all the time and people simple accept the news (which most of the time is only partially correct).

          We should be seeing an official announcement from HTC in the near future. If the device does turn out to have a 5-inch display, I think you own the AAM team an apology.

  • thegiftedone

    My son wants the Note but he knows I prefer HTC products anyday so maybe he can get this for Christmas.

  • MarlowXIm

    I hope this HTC Phablet will include a wacom digitizer and hopefully include full LED notifications. I’m guessing this will be powered by a Snapdragon S4. I hope they chose the right SoC, that pushes 1080p adequately.

  • Bradleybones

    What are the chances we’ll see one with T-Mo as well as Verizon? He asked hopefully.

    • http://htcsource.com Nick Gray

      Hard to say, but if there is an unlocked GSM variant, you will be able to import it and use it on T-Mobile’s HSPA+ network since they are currently refarming to make room for LTE.

  • disassembler

    I hope a musical montage was used during all this research!

  • http://ArtisticAbode.com BetterWithRoot

    Great work Nick! This is a great article. Thank you for doing some photoshop math problems. I am heavily looking at this for my next device and appreciate any news/rumours you have.

  • cell

    It is not Phablet. HTC Phablet is 1080P with on screen buttons, unlike capacity buttons in this pic.

  • sylar

    I’m not huge on phones with this much screen, I need something that I can actually hold and use and this does not fit that bill.

  • Tall_Windows_Supervisor

    Love the bigger screen.
    Hate the totally unnecessary huge bezels.

  • lou2cool88

    I actually thought the phablet war would have been in full swing by now. I don’t have a Note, but if the Note 2 had been out on Verizon, I would have considered it. The LG Intuition just doesn’t have the great aesthetics that the Note 2 has but this HTC phone looks to be giving it a run for its money.

  • jonathan3579

    Sigh… I don’t think upping the screen size and spec boost will help HTC. This still looks like devices from earlier this year which is the exact same problem they had last year. I would love for them to end the cookie cutter trend and do away with Sense. (Although their camera app is fantastic.)

    • DROID Sam

      How was that an issue for them last year. 2011 was HTC’s record-breaking year where they completely shattered their revenue and profit numbers from the year before by over 80%. Also, why would a spec boost and bigger screen help Samsung and LG, but not HTC? Are they cursed. Are their products inferior in some way?

      • jonathan3579

        The issue is that most (if not all) of their products look nearly identical. Their design strategy just isn’t working out. Samsung is obviously doing something right… HTC doesn’t show the inspiration of years past. That is just my opinion though.

  • Balaram Vineeth Venugopal .P

    Hope this thing comes out with a quad core s4 or a15.

  • LilSmurf2009

    Knowing Htc Built quality it gonna look great and feel sexy, but i just cant see my self using a phone thats 5 inches its too big. As a tablet i might as well go with the nexus 7.

  • Games Ouya

    “Something like this would have sold much more if they had launched it on all carriers as Samsung is about to do with it’s Galaxy Note 2. Yes Verizon will ”MISS OUT” on the Galaxy Note 2 because of the Lg Vu ”

    how is this “on all carriers” as you claim when you say verizon isn’t getting it?

    Regards Games Ouya

  • Romney, republican rapi$t & true a$$hole

    korean htcrap…..

  • Esoth

    I think an HTC phablet makes a whole lot of sense. They wanted to keep the One X as their flagship phone for a while, but they need something to combat the incoming iPhone 5 and the Galaxy S III. With a phablet, they can appeal to a slightly different market, which is also one they haven’t yet targeted.

    Plus, the build quality on their phones have always been amazing. I think the problem so far has been in the way that HTC advertises their phones, so hopefully they make a concerted effort with this one to appeal to the masses.

  • iPhone 5 buyer

    HTC is dead in the water

  • Adrian

    this looks exactly like the htc j butterfly which will exclusively be released in japan. the placing of the front-facing camera on both phones is the same. one thing i noticed though is that the htc j butterfly doesn’t have an htc logo above its screen, unlike the one on this photo. i have a gut feeling that this phone would be the international version of the j butterfly.

  1. Knowing how successful the Galaxy Note is, and that there is a huge amount of people who love HTC’s build quality, there’s no doubt this phablet will be huge hit. Especially if it comes to Verizon.

  2. Looks like a pretty boss phone to me. If HTC can release this across all the carriers at once, then they have hit big.

  3. ChristieGuest 3 years ago

    I did the exact same thing, usinh the HTC logo; every htc phone I’ve seen has the exact same logo size. (I measured in milimeters too), and ended up with 5.04″.

    It’s nice to see someone else get the same result, I know I’m sure hoping for it since they’re not getting the note on Verizon! *whacks verizon for that!*

  4. Nicely done A&M! Way to take it to the next level there.

    Super glad you were able to givce substance to the HTC phablet rumor. I was hoping that someone would give the Note some competition.

  5. That’s a very nice looking phone.

  6. Hopefully this will be executed well, an HTC will have a winner. The One X was good, so I hope they score with this device. Maybe the Nexus 2 or Nexus One XL? Here’s hoping!

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  8. I honestly think it will not do so well. I don’t mean to take away from it, but marketing for any Android device seems to not do so well. The launching of any Android device seems to flop as well. Closet thing to near perfect launching and marketing is the SGS III. I do hope this device does well but I honestly think it won’t. I guess I will see soon. I personal don’t like Sense either. I kind of find it hard that I don’t because the first Android device I had was a HTC Hero when it first came out. I loved that thing. Now I look at Sense like how did I like that. It just seems like to much. I do say I like the thinness of the Phablet.

    • well the note sold pretty well for “not doing so well” and that was touted by many as a “niche” device. Plus the razr maxx even outsold the iphone for a little while so how exactly is that every android “not do so well”?

      • I’m just saying you don’t hear as much success behind any Android device like the S series from Samsung. I just don’t think it’ll do that well for some reason. We will see.

        • No, this will not sell as well at the SGSIII, but that’s because there can only be one phone at the top. For this to be considered a success, HTC would only have to sell 3-5 million globally. Those numbers are not nearly as impressive as what Samsung has put up with the Note, but you have to remember that most people who wanted a phone this size have already jumped on board.

  9. RaptorGuest 3 years ago

    Have you noticed that this HTC phablet was reported here as having unusual 1794×1080 screen with aspect ratio 1.6611. Doing more forensics and scanning this leaked photo though gives aspect ratio 16:9 = 1.777777 which if it’s 1080p device means dimensions 1920×1080.

    So or this phablet has not 1794×1080 screen, but more reasonable full HD resolution, or 1794×1080 was screen dimension without on-screen controls, or this is not a mystical HTC crazy superphablet killer.

  10. My co-worker has the Samwrong Note and its nice. I’m glad to hear that HTC is building a similar product.

    I can’t wait to add the LTE EVO and the new phablet to my HTC collections. ;-))

  11. GregGuest 3 years ago

    This is “proof” about as much as Apple proved Samsung devices looked identical to their iDevices by resizing and skewing them and comparing them side by side.

    This is an Android and Me made rumour…and should be listed as such.

    Come on guys…Anthony is now gone…something I am personally happy about. I would hope the A+M team would be above calling rumours fact…

    • Sorry you feel that way. I honestly feel there is more fact in my research than random reports which spit out specs with no trail to back up what they are saying. Taylor was quick to point out that that the rumored Adreno 320 for this device was never actually mentioned anywhere except for a Verge article cited a source that didn’t even mention the GPU.

      If you don’t want to believe the information we’ve provided, that’s just fine. We approached this with an open mind so see if we could come out with anything that matched the rumors. If you can show me where my calculations are off, I’d be more than willing to correct the article.

      • ~ZH~Guest 3 years ago

        Are you talking about the GPU of the rumored 6435? If yes, there was a glbenchmark result showing while back that indicated the Adreno 320 as its GPU. If I’m not mistaken, the result is still in Kishonti’s database under glbenchmark 2.1.

      • GregGuest 3 years ago

        Don’t get me wrong Nick…I am sure there are people who want to hear about the rumours and such…but that is not me.

        I am all for seeing proof of upcoming devices though, and hence why I love A+M for getting information early.

        As for your calculations – it is the fact that you are using blurrycam pictures that may not even be real to guestimate via methods that are rough at best and based on assumption that the size of the physical buttons will be the same. I am not denying that you have some great thinking…but maybe I am more at odds with the way you state the results. Something like “Investigative work supports rumours of a 5″ HTC tablet”would be much more accurate. This is still very much a rumour…would you not agree?

        • DROID SamGuest 3 years ago

          It’s a mathematical calculation based on a rumor. I can personally verify that the buttons below the screen are the same size on all new HTC handsets (HTC desire C, One V, One S and One X). So it’s not too far of a stretch to think that this new device would be the same.

          At least AAM is doing some investigative work while the others are just sitting around re-reporting news that we’ve all heard a thousand times.

    • Don’t you think your being a bit harsh? what does this have to do with Apple Vs Samsung? It’s not like they subjected you to a picture of the Loch Ness Monster or the Yeti. It’s a mock up much like the Galaxy Note 2. That device is now fact, correct? You act as though the Android and Me staff forced you to read the article. Nick has the right to post his ideas in regards to the upcoming device. There is a device number. Fact. Be more courteous and try decaf.

      • GregGuest 3 years ago

        Righto…yeah. I am being harsh. And you aren’t.

        At the end of the day I am saying this is not proof. A device number? Who cares buddy…a phone exists, that doesn’t make it a 5″ phablet. Nothing has been “proven” in this post is what I am saying. Nick had a great idea to play around with…but proof is concrete and I am afraid this is not. Proof is a very strong and specific word…look it up sometime. And this site is a professional journal, so they should be professional. As far as you saying A+M forced me to read the article, I consider that they did. I view the RSS feed so I don’t visit the site for things that are not relevant to me…I only want facts. This mislead me…and that annoys me. I hate being misled.

        • DROID SamGuest 3 years ago

          I think they have done some great work and have shown more proof than any other blog. I wonder what your reaction would be if some other blog wrote something like “Exclusive: anonymous source confirms 5-inch HTC phablet” and presented it as fact. This happens all the time and people simple accept the news (which most of the time is only partially correct).

          We should be seeing an official announcement from HTC in the near future. If the device does turn out to have a 5-inch display, I think you own the AAM team an apology.

  12. My son wants the Note but he knows I prefer HTC products anyday so maybe he can get this for Christmas.

  13. I hope this HTC Phablet will include a wacom digitizer and hopefully include full LED notifications. I’m guessing this will be powered by a Snapdragon S4. I hope they chose the right SoC, that pushes 1080p adequately.

  14. What are the chances we’ll see one with T-Mo as well as Verizon? He asked hopefully.

    • Hard to say, but if there is an unlocked GSM variant, you will be able to import it and use it on T-Mobile’s HSPA+ network since they are currently refarming to make room for LTE.

  15. I hope a musical montage was used during all this research!

  16. Great work Nick! This is a great article. Thank you for doing some photoshop math problems. I am heavily looking at this for my next device and appreciate any news/rumours you have.

  17. cellGuest 3 years ago

    It is not Phablet. HTC Phablet is 1080P with on screen buttons, unlike capacity buttons in this pic.

  18. I’m not huge on phones with this much screen, I need something that I can actually hold and use and this does not fit that bill.

  19. Tall_Windows_SupervisorGuest 3 years ago

    Love the bigger screen.
    Hate the totally unnecessary huge bezels.

  20. I actually thought the phablet war would have been in full swing by now. I don’t have a Note, but if the Note 2 had been out on Verizon, I would have considered it. The LG Intuition just doesn’t have the great aesthetics that the Note 2 has but this HTC phone looks to be giving it a run for its money.

  21. Sigh… I don’t think upping the screen size and spec boost will help HTC. This still looks like devices from earlier this year which is the exact same problem they had last year. I would love for them to end the cookie cutter trend and do away with Sense. (Although their camera app is fantastic.)

    • DROID SamGuest 3 years ago

      How was that an issue for them last year. 2011 was HTC’s record-breaking year where they completely shattered their revenue and profit numbers from the year before by over 80%. Also, why would a spec boost and bigger screen help Samsung and LG, but not HTC? Are they cursed. Are their products inferior in some way?

      • The issue is that most (if not all) of their products look nearly identical. Their design strategy just isn’t working out. Samsung is obviously doing something right… HTC doesn’t show the inspiration of years past. That is just my opinion though.

  22. Hope this thing comes out with a quad core s4 or a15.

  23. Knowing Htc Built quality it gonna look great and feel sexy, but i just cant see my self using a phone thats 5 inches its too big. As a tablet i might as well go with the nexus 7.

  24. Games OuyaGuest 3 years ago

    “Something like this would have sold much more if they had launched it on all carriers as Samsung is about to do with it’s Galaxy Note 2. Yes Verizon will ”MISS OUT” on the Galaxy Note 2 because of the Lg Vu ”

    how is this “on all carriers” as you claim when you say verizon isn’t getting it?

    Regards Games Ouya

  25. Romney, republican rapi$t & true a$$holeGuest 3 years ago

    korean htcrap…..

  26. I think an HTC phablet makes a whole lot of sense. They wanted to keep the One X as their flagship phone for a while, but they need something to combat the incoming iPhone 5 and the Galaxy S III. With a phablet, they can appeal to a slightly different market, which is also one they haven’t yet targeted.

    Plus, the build quality on their phones have always been amazing. I think the problem so far has been in the way that HTC advertises their phones, so hopefully they make a concerted effort with this one to appeal to the masses.

  27. iPhone 5 buyerGuest 3 years ago

    HTC is dead in the water

  28. AdrianGuest 3 years ago

    this looks exactly like the htc j butterfly which will exclusively be released in japan. the placing of the front-facing camera on both phones is the same. one thing i noticed though is that the htc j butterfly doesn’t have an htc logo above its screen, unlike the one on this photo. i have a gut feeling that this phone would be the international version of the j butterfly.